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Shining Wit

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Many suppliers, myself included, use our own forums to promote our products, which is fair enough as we pay for the privilege of having the forum. What I am suggesting might surprise you but I sincerely believe that it would improve the quality of ECF as a whole and would be more welcoming/friendly to newcomers or potential members. I usually click the 'Today's Posts' link to see the 'latest news', but what I so often find is that between 20% and 90% of the posts on each page are from the Suppliers' Forums. Although some of these are relevant, many are promotional posts - it's like opening your favourite magazine to find every page plastered with adverts. I have just done a countback of the last 10 pages and found that the average number of posts from suppliers on each page was 46.4%, incredible! Could we not have two 'Today's Posts' sections, one for members posts and one for those from Suppliers' Forums. There already seems to be a move toward structuring the forums along similar lines with more clearly defined areas for suppliers and I think having 'members' and 'suppliers' running in parallel would make for a more interesting and active area for the members. Visitors would be able to see both sides clearly and I'm sure it would tempt more people to post. I'm sure not all suppliers would agree as some blatantly use their forum to have posts on as many pages as possible, but the forum is about all of the members and as a supplier I would like to see us running in tandem. As a member I would love to click 'Today's Posts' and see just posts from members, if I want to see what suppliers are saying I can go to that section voluntarily.
Cheers.
John.

I have just previewed this post before sending and have seen one potential problem that would also need addressing. If suppliers had their own 'Today's Posts' section it could lead to a 'post war' with some suppliers posting every few minutes in order to keep their name visible on the front page. It's not an insurmountable problem, one solution would be to list 'Todays Threads' on the suppliers section with a limit on how many new threads a supplier can submit each day or how many will be displayed, maybe the 5 most recent?
 

Starlight

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I agree!

There is a "New Info Posts" under "Quick Links", which is similar to "Today's Posts" but without all the pages of posts from suppliers' forums. However, it seems to not include a number of forums, especially since the re-organisation and introduction of new forums.

There's also a link to "Suppliers new posts" under the "Quick Links".

For months and months now, I've given up using either "Today's Posts" for the reasons you mention and as it involves WAY too much scrolling through pages of suppliers' topics I'm not interested in (like all the US suppliers when I'm in the UK), or with "New Info Posts" as these miss out a number of useful forums.

Would it not be possible for the "New Info Posts" to:
A) - contain all posts from members' forums and
B) - be renamed to something more appropriate than "new info" as the posts aren't only "info"?

That way, "Today's Posts" could be everything for those who want them, and "New Info Posts" could be everything except for suppliers' forums, and "Suppliers new posts" could be just that.
 

Shining Wit

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I agree!

There is a "New Info Posts" under "Quick Links", which is similar to "Today's Posts" but without all the pages of posts from suppliers' forums. However, it seems to not include a number of forums, especially since the re-organisation and introduction of new forums.

There's also a link to "Suppliers new posts" under the "Quick Links".

For months and months now, I've given up using either "Today's Posts" for the reasons you mention and as it involves WAY too much scrolling through pages of suppliers' topics I'm not interested in (like all the US suppliers when I'm in the UK), or with "New Info Posts" as these miss out a number of useful forums.

Would it not be possible for the "New Info Posts" to:
A) - contain all posts from members' forums and
B) - be renamed to something more appropriate than "new info" as the posts aren't only "info"?

That way, "Today's Posts" could be everything for those who want them, and "New Info Posts" could be everything except for suppliers' forums, and "Suppliers new posts" could be just that.

Yep! I see what you mean, the quick links don't cover all of the forums and indeed the only link to this one, apart from the Feedback Forum lnk itself, is in Today's Posts. Maybe keep the Today's Posts but have a dropdown box with 3 choices as below?

Today's Posts
Members' Forums
Suppliers' Forums

All Forums
I'm sure that then the 'Members' Forums' section would be much more attractive and practical.
John.
 

ZambucaLu

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Hey you guys! This conversation just recently came up in Admin too. The mods use today's posts/new posts a lot to see what's going on around the forum at any given time and we also complained that it's a pain to scroll through the hundreds of supplier posts every day (especially since we don't mod those only on an as need basis).

I made the same point Starlight did...that the suppliers already have their own link under Quick Links so if someone is interested in them, they can check there.

I believe the 'New Info Posts' was created because members were complaining about seeing all the new member posts, Lounge and Outside posts. They only wanted to see posts that actually contained informative ecig information. I for one would love to see it broken down for the easiest access so any suggestions are welcome.

I believe Roly and CeeJey are working on something for this. Maybe one of them will come in and comment.

Lu
 

redraven

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Shining Wit/John-
Just wanted to say I applaud your attitude. It's so nice when businesspeople don't just look at the "bottom line" or how to get the largest exposure, but truly care about people who use their products - making sure we can get accurate information & all.

Just wanted to say your post was a pleasant thing to see. :)

RR
 
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