Spilled flavor concentrate Freaking Out

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bigdancehawk

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Definitely, same applies with guns and knives, but I think they need to crack down on whatever they can control, and if it saves a few lives down the line, then it was worth it. I Sure 100mg will save everyone a few bucks down the road, but nobody vapes anywhere near that amount, and I just feel anything above 36 shouldn't be allowed. Just my 2 cents though.

Hey, George Orwell, "they" is us.
 

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I'm wondering the same thing.

Nicotine is a neural toxin, so it can feel like it burns, with high enough concentration and left long enough on the skin, but it does not actually burn. I've gotten 100mg/ml on my skin enough times to know there is no caustic reaction whatsoever.

And the thought of mixing up flavorings to heat up and inhale, but being frightened by a small amount being spilled and running from the smell?

Throw in a "they have to control everything they can" kind of line of reasoning on top of falsehoods presented as absolute fact?

It does seem to add up to an attempt to stir things up for the sake of stirring things up.
 

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Seeing as it isn't 1.2ml of O-ethyl S-[2-ethyl] methylphosphonothioate I wouldn't be overly concerned about a garage sized enclosed area.

1.2ml in a closed coffin might be a bit of a worry to me on the other hand, especially if the coffin were 6' under the general topography I tend to enjoy standing upon.

As most have stated here, the flavorings we use, in the quantity we use, are in the realm of innocuous. You could have used the same exact flavoring to make pulled taffy where you would be intentionally there manually working the flavoring into a plain taffy.

The flavors are in actuality more often used in that very way.

In other cases the flavor is also used as a scent, flavors are remarkably the same thing in terms of chemical makeup. It is the use that mainly makes the difference. Spill a bottle of perfume! Get a mop! Spill a of flavoring! Get a mop! Dog takes another dump in the living room, don the gas mask, grab the paper towels ... it isn't pleasant I'm sure.

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I just had remembered reading msds from other flavors, and seems they try to hide the msds as they don't mention "do not inhale" or "harmful if inhaled" when you're putting money in their pockets checking out on their website.

But they know exactly why we are buying it. They would potentially lose a lot of customers if people were to read the msds before they bought it. They make it hard to find the msds since the average joe won't know where to look for it.

They also claim "diacetyl free" on their basic description of the flavors, then on the msds claim "may not be diacetyl free".

So when I see stuff like that, it draws up a big red flag. Obviously I am taking the risk because I know the cigs were going to kill me in the long run anyways.

Yep, that is true. I only order 12mg I won't go above that, and it's easy to cut to my 6mg. I don't think they should be able to sell it at 100mg to just anybody, IMHO.



Oh My the hysteria your creating is unbelievable. If your that cautious and uncertain of your own abilities to mix safely I think you should buy your juice at a vender and leave the DYI to the pro's. I really don't think your ready for DYI.
 
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That "they need to crack down on whatever they can control" or "shouldnt be allowed" mindset is exactly whats wrong with this country and mostly because of the Democrat party, otherwise known as the tax, spend and regulate party of big government. We dont need big D government constantly looking at new ways to regulate and control "we the people". These kinds of government imposed regulations always end up causing the government to expand even more as a result and impose overbearing regs and taxes on "we the people". Anything the government sticks its damn nose into gets screwed up for the people. Especially where the misguided so called progressive/liberal politician mindset is "lets put a sin tax on it" or "we need to control it" or "we need to put an end to it" or "that should be banned".

I think we should crack down on these damn nanny politicians and STOP ELECTING DEMOCRATS !

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Wow, I can't believe this. What a bunch of online bullies, they see a man with an anxiety disorder and they beat him to death. You guys are like 50-60 years old, grow up. Your mothers must be so proud of you boys.
Oh c'mon ! Where's the sense of humor ???? You do realize it's a joke. BTW my mother was never proud of me. :D
 

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are you sure it wasn't 12ml or 120ml? ... because 1.2ml is hardly anything to be concerned about.

This thread has one purpose to stir things up or the op has no reason doing diy mixes. Even if I spilled 120ml of flavor on a garage floor I know enough not to be worried about it... throw some water on it and be ...... I just lost 120 ml of flavor...not that there is danger I should be worried about.
 

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I have been suffering from Anxiety and Panic disorder since College. About 25 years now, and it really sucks and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. There are many types of Anxiety's and Triggers that set them off.

It would appear that someone that is afraid to handle chemicals should not be making ejuice, but at the same time it's very important to face your fears to try to overcome them. I understand to well how a simple trigger (spilling a chemical that you are unsure of) can set you in panic mode. I mean full out panic were you chest starts hurting and it becomes hard to breath and you feel like the world is caving in on you. I'm not personally afraid of e juice, (I have plenty of my own triggers though), but I could easily imagine what the OP went through immediately following the spill. I can just imagine the thoughts that went through BigCap's head.

With that said, I have to agree with some of the other posters that we do not need more government control. Our rights are being stripped from us and I can't believe so many people are content with it. If you feel something is dangerous, than just don't buy/do it, but don't feel you need the government to watch your (or my) back for you (us).
 

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Definitely, same applies with guns and knives, but I think they need to crack down on whatever they can control, and if it saves a few lives down the line, then it was worth it. I Sure 100mg will save everyone a few bucks down the road, but nobody vapes anywhere near that amount, and I just feel anything above 36 shouldn't be allowed. Just my 2 cents though.

How am I supposed to make a 24mg juice that contains over 20% flavoring with 36mg nicotine? Without even factoring in the fact that I vape 50/50 this would literally be impossible with 36mg nicotine....

Ah, I just realized Boletus beat me to it. This pretty much sums up my thoughts on limiting nicotine;
The list goes on and on, but at some point you have to draw the line and say people should be expected to use some common sense, and parents should take some responsibility for protecting their kids from harm. Should people have to take a course and become certified to buy Sharpie markers?
 
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