Standard Atomizers really piss me off

[2Packsaday]

I have spent over $300 in 2 months on different attys trying to find one that will last more than a few days. Some last less than 30 minutes. I drip all day long at work with a 5-6V Prodigy V2 and the most I have ever gotten out of one is about 18ml. I have just gone through 2 in the last hour = $16.

I am so frustrated, I buy more attys than juice. I guess I will have to go back to Cartos and forget about dripping if I can't get an atty that lasts.

Question number 1: Will the 6V iatty last longer?
Question number 2: If so, when will these be in stock at VK?

 

[dmtnt]

Had the same problem, got the HV atomizers for Eastmall and have been running them with my SB @ 6V. ZERO failures in 3 weeks!

 

[2Packsaday]

What the hell...I just burned out another one since I posted the thread less than 30 minutes ago. I will try Eastmall.

 

[harpo]

What the hell...I just burned out another one since I posted the thread less than 30 minutes ago. I will try Eastmall.

You have to make sure you keep them good and wet and take shorter draps off of them.

 

[2Packsaday]

I have heard that one for weeks. When you keep them good and wet, they either flood or they gum up. When you keep them on the dry side, they pop. When you keep them just right they may last 3-4 days (15ml). Believe me, I have done it all for more than 45 working days at the office.

Some simply don't work worth a flip brand new. It's like only 25% of the coil actually heats up. Others blow you away the first few hours because the entire coil is heating. What a bunch of Chinese crap.

Sorry, but I've got to vent before I blow.

 

[vapn]

The AFS is the solution to this dripping problem. Since I started using the AFS I have only blown a few atties. I used to go through them also when I was dripping. Especially at high voltage. But yes you might want to try an atty with higher resistance.

 

[MHR7331]

You're doing something wrong. Higher resistance won't help a thing. Is the V2 your only device?

 

[mwa102464]

Agreed Vapn, Agreed

 

[Scottbee]

You're doing something wrong. Higher resistance won't help a thing. Is the V2 your only device?

Why do you say that? Higher resistance drops the power. Lower power (typically) yields lower peak coil temperatures. Lower peak coil temperatures usually lead to longer coil/atty life.

 

[2Packsaday]

Yes. The V2 is my only dripping device. I have tons of carto supplies for when I'm mobile, but prefer dripping at work.

I have about 5 attys that are not completely dead. I believe they are just gummed up after 15ml or so worth of dripping and I will attempt to clean and put back in service. I figure that Grain Alcohol and my ultrasonic machine may do the trick. I haven't had a chance to measure them all, but I think a couple meter out at close to zero ohms.

I have 5 or so that are blown open. I'm going to cut one of them down to figure out where they blew.

Has anyone been able to separate the atty from the tube without destroying the atty? If so, how?

 

[MHR7331]

Why do you say that? Higher resistance drops the power. Lower power (typically) yields lower peak coil temperatures. Lower peak coil temperatures usually lead to longer coil/atty life.

Because it doesn't seem very likely he's using a bunch of crap atomizers... must be something to do with usage, which won't change the outcome regardless of coil resistance (well it will, but doesn't exactly solve the initial issue).

2packs, are you a chainvaping type? Maybe you're having issues with the v2 adapter...

 

[Wafflestomper]

The AFS is the solution to this dripping problem. Since I started using the AFS I have only blown a few atties. I used to go through them also when I was dripping. Especially at high voltage. But yes you might want to try an atty with higher resistance.

Whats your guess on your average lifespan using the AFS Vapn? You are using the beta AFS, right?

 

[2Packsaday]

Because it doesn't seem very likely he's using a bunch of crap atomizers... must be something to do with usage, which won't change the outcome regardless of coil resistance (well it will, but doesn't exactly solve the initial issue).

2packs, are you a chainvaping type? Maybe you're having issues with the v2 adapter...

I guess I am doing a bit of chain vaping. I like the 801 plumage and sometimes I run them a bit hot. The adapter is fine. It gets the 6 volts to the atty. What else is it's purpose?

I have tried 901s, 801s, 510's, High Bridge, Low Bridge. I have tried different vendors. I guess the real question is....will the $15.50 high voltage iattys last for more than twice as long as the $8 attys? I need them to last at least, on average, 30 ml worth of dripping to make them worth the purchase price. Has anyone figured out the average lifespan in ml?

 

[Scottbee]

Has anyone been able to separate the atty from the tube without destroying the atty? If so, how?

I've got some fixturing that allows me to do it.. but this might work for you:

Take the atty and "chuck it" up in the chuck of your hand drill... with the battery end and about 1/8" of the tube sticking out. Screw on a battery firmly (preferably and old one that you don't care about anymore) and start rocking the battery "side to side" in order to break the adhesive bond and "bell-mouth" the tube a little bit. You can tell when the tube is beginning to release the atty. Keep on rockin' with a gentle "pulling" force and the atty core will hopefully come out. The tube may get witness marks from the chuck though....

 

[2Packsaday]

Thanks for the advice. I have a large shop down in the basement with tons of tools and a bunch of metal shop stuff. So, I will be able to accomplish this easily enough. Do you think some MEK might break down the epoxy a bit before pulling?

 

[2Packsaday]

Sorry, dup post

 

[Obie]

Most of the attys I've taken apart have failed at the join where the coil and +/- wires are soldered together. Seems to be a weak link.

Don't drip onto a hot coil, let it cool a bit first especially if it's very dry.

 

[jwquantrell]

You aren't by chance dripping into the atty while its still hot are you? I have popped two that way myself.

Regards
Jim

 

[Scottbee]

Thanks for the advice. I have a large shop down in the basement with tons of tools and a bunch of metal shop stuff. So, I will be able to accomplish this easily enough. Do you think some MEK might break down the epoxy a bit before pulling?

I honestly don't know of MEK will help or not. The adhesive appears to be an anaerobic... like some of the stronger cylindrical bonding Loctite agents. Heat may weaken it a bit also.

 

[2Packsaday]

Most of the attys I've taken apart have failed at the join where the coil and +/- wires are soldered together. Seems to be a weak link.

Don't drip onto a hot coil, let it cool a bit first especially if it's very dry.

Since I run an electronics company, it sounds like they can be repaired. I'm sure I have dripped onto a hot coil. I will guard against that from now on.

I honestly don't know of MEK will help or not. The adhesive appears to be an anaerobic... like some of the stronger cylindrical bonding Loctite agents. Heat may weaken it a bit also.

Thanks again Scottbee. By the way, I'm a big "House" fan. It's one of the few TV shows that incorporates intelligent humor.

Thanks to everyone. I've learned a lot and am not as ...... anymore. It's amazing how a little knowledge can calm you down.