Statement from Totally Wicked

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Grantie

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Hey Grantie man,

yeah not much to get out of it, Russ did his best to make up for the weak as ditch water position of the other talking head on there, who was basically a nodding dog through it all.

I felt like ringing in myself - of course I'm listening to it on catchup lol...

Jason really really needs to do as he says he will and step right on back - he's too involved to be responding directly to these things : Trog knows how to deal with this stuff in a forceful way (and always ends up coming across as helpful).
The worst thing you could do is become a troll that everyone loves to feed.

You really can't silence people on forums either way - if your product is decent it will speak for itself despite nay-sayers and competitor "fan boys". If you dont turn up, you cant be insulted :)
 

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Mmm, am not familiar with all the details of this case. It sounds like a mess, it sounds as if the indivdual concerned has made some errors of judgement, and that dealing with the consequences of those errors has proved difficult for that individual.

In my view it would be best for all parties to leave the situation well alone unless they are directly affected by legal action or deciding where to spend their money. As for the man himself, I hope that he recieves sound advice from his business team and his family in order that he can resolve the problems which have arisen.

In my view he would benefit enormously if he had help with the public face of his company, and possibly medical treatment for stress, or at least a decent holiday and a self-imposed ban on forums etc.

Regards.

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I just read through the Oddyssey thread and it wasn't at all what I was expecting based on the way I heard it described on the vaping program. Was it edited after the TW guy's complaints? I didn't think it was very bad at all. Some people who didn't have one were commenting, but it seemed to be mostly about specs, not saying it was crap as the TW guy said on the program.

Yeah I started that thread and phoned in last night and it wasn't atall about it being crap, I simply asked if it was as bad as I had heard as I mentioned in a seperate post that I was thinking about buying it, I was then sent 3 pm's telling me not to, which is why I started the thread.
 

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As a former Navy man, all I could think about as I read the "explanation" was that I would love to see the OP's written orders for lining the sidewalks to the HQ building with rocks, painted, white, individual, each.

In the US Army (where I served) there would have been a 5 paragraph operations order along with a sand box rehearsal. Maybe even GPS coordinates and aerial or satellite photos :p
 

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Interesting thing about that video. It's about some Islamist violently restricting freedom of speech right. ... So I post an innocuous comment there, and it gets deleted ...

EDIT: Correction. Either the the poster or YouTube deleted my comment. (At the behest of Totally Wicked?)
 
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The sad thing about all this is that I had never even heard of TW before yesterday. I saw the posting for ClickBang and listened to the show. Regardless of what happened, or what mud may have been slung in TW's general direction, retaliation, ranting, and personal attacks from the CEO are inexcusable. I will never consider doing business with the company, and if any of my currently vaping friends and family or any converts considering vaping mention or ask about TW, I will advise them that it's not a company I would consider doing business with. I have no idea if TW has good products, but I can say that the conduct I've seen is unprofessional.
 

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I say this with the utmost sincerity, care, and sympathy.... is it possible that this gentleman has suffered some sort of a psychotic break from reality? Based upon the tone of his posts, I believe it might be a very valid concern.

One of my four children is bi-polar with schizophrenic tendencies. Often, she is un-medicated as she does not believe that there is anything 'wrong' with her. When she is un-medicated, she often falls into conspiracy theories and delusional episodes - episodes which are much, to those of us on the outside, rather like watching the movie "A Beautiful Mind".

Her behavior and actions during these episodes is beyond surreal and to me, frightening; because I know that my daughter is in there somewhere and if I could just reach her somehow and show her how incorrect her thoughts and paranoia are in relation to the episode she is currently experiencing...maybe, just maybe she would realize how desperately she needs psychiatric help. It is desperately difficult to watch someone you care about suffer so terribly when there is nothing that you can do to stop their pain.

Based upon what I know of my daughter's illness, (she lives with us because she is incapable of living on her own, or holding down a job now), I see the same patterns of behaviors in this gentleman's actions - and what I feel for him is sympathy and not a little concern. His posts are not those of a rational person - I do not believe he needs bashing, I think he needs help.

~Tiger
 

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To be fair to Jason, I think a lot of posts were deleted as they happened, so the full picture was not shown. However, he was his own worst enemy with some of the OTT posts he made. At the end of the day, though, he does have a point about conflict of interest re: Devlin, Pruen and ECITA. I don't use TW but a lot of people do, because they provide a service to the non-enthusiast. Most of TW's customers will be totally unaware of these issues.
 

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Lets not go into speculating about Jason's mental health. Those types of speculations are not only unnecessary but could be considered libelous under UK law. I'm not a lawyer, but since litigation is on the table it is prudent of all parties to avoid making statements that could be used in legal proceedings.
 

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You know how the news runs the same story over and over and over until you just dont care anymore and you change the channel or just stop listening? This is starting to become the same thing.
No one's forcing you to read this thread.

If it moves, Salute it, if it doesn't - Paint in white
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And if the government machinery is not leaking oil... Check it, because it's probably empty.

In the Air Force we would go to the BX after finishing the round of golf...
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Other branches don't call it the "Chair Force" for nothing...
 
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