I have both, for ergonomics the SteamCrave wins. Battery life is much better with the Kangxin & chip operation is about the same between the two. I've been running a Ti build in my SC lately with no problems.
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I have both, for ergonomics the SteamCrave wins. Battery life is much better with the Kangxin & chip operation is about the same between the two. I've been running a Ti build in my SC lately with no problems.
Might get the SC then, the other one seems to be out of stock. The only problem? The Chinese New Year is right around the corner, heh. Did your SC ship out of the US or China?
Steamcrave eliminated most of the flaws from the first version but one deficiency still remains. It consumes a significant amount of power when in standby. Leave it for a couple of days and the battery will be completely drained.
Mine was shipped out of NY. I bought mine after they did the revision & were out of stock. Once they notified me I placed the order a week or so after.
I ordered one about a week and a half ago. Right now they are shipping from China. They sent me a message saying they did not have any of the revised in the US.
Mine showed up today. For the price you really can't complain. It's perfect for someone thinking about getting into squonking without having to lay out a ton of cash. A $60 squonker why not
So. I received mine today. Unfortunately I'd classify this device as pretty bad for.me.
I knew going in that the atomizer probably wasn't going to work for me. And I accepted I'd likely have to buy another. Heat transfer is awful. The drip.tip adaptor.wont stay in there. And the anti spit bottom kills vapor.prodiction when trying to use it as a.mouth to.lung device. The flavor,is actually.quite good but everything else is bad for my usage. The air ports being so high render the cooling effect down to almost nothing.
The battery life on this mod is a disaster. Using it to test a couple builds around.85-1.2 ohm for less than an hour and the battery is between 1/2 and 2/3 gone. In one of my many other mods this wouldn't have taken 25%. I know their website says they adjust the display to account for parasitic loss and,if the battery usage was an increase of around ten percent or so I'd buy that. The fact it's using three times as much to.me.means there are integral issues they need to sort. I don't understand why they would want to try and write their own software instead of just going all joy tech and using the chip setup.inside the evic.mini. I guess to..try and make.more money.
Honestly I wish I hadn't sprung on this. Even for the sale price. I'd rather have paid more for a good setup than $80 for a setup I really won't use at all because I can vape about the same
Quantity on a 18500 battery than I can.on a.18650.in this. Realistically I'm getting the equivalent of an 800mah battery in any other device. Certainly my 18500 efest batteries in a mech mod.with the same 1.2 ohm build last longer even if I set the sc box to 4 amps. Can I straight swap the joy tech chip into this mod ? The one that's in the Evic mini I believe is sold to mod
Makers now isn't it? Any idea where to get it ? I think even fasttech maybe has it.
I'm open to suggestions on what to do. Right now I don't know If I can return this (doubtful) or if I want to throw good money after bad getting a small single Coil bfa. I don't know If there is a software update. I'm Skeptical it fixes anything. They're clearly either not accepting the truth themselves that they have a serious battery drain issue or it is unfixable and they're lying about it being a calibration for parasitic loss and sale priced the items to get them out the door. Either way a battery fix is unlikely. Three times the usage of any other mod I own is just unacceptable.
I am really sorry to poop on the party in here and if it was just that I needed another atomizer id be in here asking which to get of the few that were recommended before. The problem here is that even if I get a bfa that suits my mouth to lung vaping style this thing isn't going to see use if I can vape 2ml on an entire 18650 battery.
If I can't return it (likely) I guess I will end up getting a better atomizer for my uses. So I may as well order it now. I guess the battery life would be easier to swallow if I was getting a vape I liked. I'll go back through a couple pages to the recommended. But if the ones recommended (if you recommended them) which one atomizer for single coil and flavorful mouth to lung would you get? My funds are now super limited. So if it's a close 1/2 and one is less expensive. That's probably the way I need to go. However if here's a night and day difference , which I can't see being the case, then I will Pay more for one that is better. I'm not in the market for something like the chalice iii right now. It's just way too expensive until I sell some Stuff which I'm not sure I'll be doing now. Have to get a better squonk vape before I Commit to that so It's a catch 22. I do have a magma dripper if there's a conversion kit that may work. But a small flavor based mouth to lung bfa like the ones pointed out previously - just which one to get.
Thanks for taking he time
To read this. Again I'm sorry to be the guy saying no to this. I figured poor battery life meant 25-40% more use not 2-3x the use.
For the record
This bottle was filled just under the main body when I put it in. Here's what I vaped and half the battery plus is gone l. By my estimation a full 2000-2500mah battery would Last 2-3 ml. That's less than half what any other mod I own gets. Closer to a third. That's certainly not a calibration for Parasitic loss. I've changed coils and wicks twice. So bear in mind half a ml went with the wicks probably. Wow.
I knew going in that the atomizer probably wasn't going to work for me. And I accepted I'd likely have to buy another. Heat transfer is awful. The drip.tip adaptor.wont stay in there. And the anti spit bottom kills vapor.prodiction when trying to use it as a.mouth to.lung device. The flavor,is actually.quite good but everything else is bad for my usage. The air ports being so high render the cooling effect down to almost nothing.
The battery life on this mod is a disaster. Using it to test a couple builds around.85-1.2 ohm for less than an hour and the battery is between 1/2 and 2/3 gone. In one of my many other mods this wouldn't have taken 25%. I know their website says they adjust the display to account for parasitic loss and,if the battery usage was an increase of around ten percent or so I'd buy that. The fact it's using three times as much to.me.means there are integral issues they need to sort. I don't understand why they would want to try and write their own software instead of just going all joy tech and using the chip setup.inside the evic.mini. I guess to..try and make.more money.
Honestly I wish I hadn't sprung on this. Even for the sale price. I'd rather have paid more for a good setup than $80 for a setup I really won't use at all because I can vape about the same
Quantity on a 18500 battery than I can.on a.18650.in this. Realistically I'm getting the equivalent of an 800mah battery in any other device. Certainly my 18500 efest batteries in a mech mod.with the same 1.2 ohm build last longer even if I set the sc box to 4 amps. Can I straight swap the joy tech chip into this mod ? The one that's in the Evic mini I believe is sold to mod
Makers now isn't it? Any idea where to get it ? I think even fasttech maybe has it.
I'm open to suggestions on what to do. Right now I don't know If I can return this (doubtful) or if I want to throw good money after bad getting a small single Coil bfa. I don't know If there is a software update. I'm Skeptical it fixes anything. They're clearly either not accepting the truth themselves that they have a serious battery drain issue or it is unfixable and they're lying about it being a calibration for parasitic loss and sale priced the items to get them out the door. Either way a battery fix is unlikely. Three times the usage of any other mod I own is just unacceptable.
I am really sorry to poop on the party in here and if it was just that I needed another atomizer id be in here asking which to get of the few that were recommended before. The problem here is that even if I get a bfa that suits my mouth to lung vaping style this thing isn't going to see use if I can vape 2ml on an entire 18650 battery.
If I can't return it (likely) I guess I will end up getting a better atomizer for my uses. So I may as well order it now. I guess the battery life would be easier to swallow if I was getting a vape I liked. I'll go back through a couple pages to the recommended. But if the ones recommended (if you recommended them) which one atomizer for single coil and flavorful mouth to lung would you get? My funds are now super limited. So if it's a close 1/2 and one is less expensive. That's probably the way I need to go. However if here's a night and day difference , which I can't see being the case, then I will Pay more for one that is better. I'm not in the market for something like the chalice iii right now. It's just way too expensive until I sell some Stuff which I'm not sure I'll be doing now. Have to get a better squonk vape before I Commit to that so It's a catch 22. I do have a magma dripper if there's a conversion kit that may work. But a small flavor based mouth to lung bfa like the ones pointed out previously - just which one to get.
Thanks for taking he time
To read this. Again I'm sorry to be the guy saying no to this. I figured poor battery life meant 25-40% more use not 2-3x the use.
For the record
This bottle was filled just under the main body when I put it in. Here's what I vaped and half the battery plus is gone l. By my estimation a full 2000-2500mah battery would Last 2-3 ml. That's less than half what any other mod I own gets. Closer to a third. That's certainly not a calibration for Parasitic loss. I've changed coils and wicks twice. So bear in mind half a ml went with the wicks probably. Wow.
How many watts are you vaping at?So. I received mine today. Unfortunately I'd classify this device as pretty bad for.me.
I knew going in that the atomizer probably wasn't going to work for me. And I accepted I'd likely have to buy another. Heat transfer is awful. The drip.tip adaptor.wont stay in there. And the anti spit bottom kills vapor.prodiction when trying to use it as a.mouth to.lung device. The flavor,is actually.quite good but everything else is bad for my usage. The air ports being so high render the cooling effect down to almost nothing.
The battery life on this mod is a disaster. Using it to test a couple builds around.85-1.2 ohm for less than an hour and the battery is between 1/2 and 2/3 gone. In one of my many other mods this wouldn't have taken 25%. I know their website says they adjust the display to account for parasitic loss and,if the battery usage was an increase of around ten percent or so I'd buy that. The fact it's using three times as much to.me.means there are integral issues they need to sort. I don't understand why they would want to try and write their own software instead of just going all joy tech and using the chip setup.inside the evic.mini. I guess to..try and make.more money.
Honestly I wish I hadn't sprung on this. Even for the sale price. I'd rather have paid more for a good setup than $80 for a setup I really won't use at all because I can vape about the same
Quantity on a 18500 battery than I can.on a.18650.in this. Realistically I'm getting the equivalent of an 800mah battery in any other device. Certainly my 18500 efest batteries in a mech mod.with the same 1.2 ohm build last longer even if I set the sc box to 4 amps. Can I straight swap the joy tech chip into this mod ? The one that's in the Evic mini I believe is sold to mod
Makers now isn't it? Any idea where to get it ? I think even fasttech maybe has it.
I'm open to suggestions on what to do. Right now I don't know If I can return this (doubtful) or if I want to throw good money after bad getting a small single Coil bfa. I don't know If there is a software update. I'm Skeptical it fixes anything. They're clearly either not accepting the truth themselves that they have a serious battery drain issue or it is unfixable and they're lying about it being a calibration for parasitic loss and sale priced the items to get them out the door. Either way a battery fix is unlikely. Three times the usage of any other mod I own is just unacceptable.
I am really sorry to poop on the party in here and if it was just that I needed another atomizer id be in here asking which to get of the few that were recommended before. The problem here is that even if I get a bfa that suits my mouth to lung Vaping style this thing isn't going to see use if I can vape 2ml on an entire 18650 battery.
If I can't return it (likely) I guess I will end up getting a better atomizer for my uses. So I may as well order it now. I guess the battery life would be easier to swallow if I was getting a vape I liked. I'll go back through a couple pages to the recommended. But if the ones recommended (if you recommended them) which one atomizer for single coil and flavorful mouth to lung would you get? My funds are now super limited. So if it's a close 1/2 and one is less expensive. That's probably the way I need to go. However if here's a night and day difference , which I can't see being the case, then I will Pay more for one that is better. I'm not in the market for something like the chalice iii right now. It's just way too expensive until I sell some Stuff which I'm not sure I'll be doing now. Have to get a better squonk vape before I Commit to that so It's a catch 22. I do have a magma dripper if there's a conversion kit that may work. But a small flavor based mouth to lung bfa like the ones pointed out previously - just which one to get.
Thanks for taking he time
To read this. Again I'm sorry to be the guy saying no to this. I figured poor battery life meant 25-40% more use not 2-3x the use.
For the record
This bottle was filled just under the main body when I put it in. Here's what I vaped and half the battery plus is gone l. By my estimation a full 2000-2500mah battery would Last 2-3 ml. That's less than half what any other mod I own gets. Closer to a third. That's certainly not a calibration for Parasitic loss. I've changed coils and wicks twice. So bear in mind half a ml went with the wicks probably. Wow.
I ran mine dead in about 4 hours last night. That was a 60 watts with a dual clapton coil coming in at 0.4 ohms and pretty much chain vaping. Probably consumed about 5-6 mils of juice
15-20 and I've consumed maybe a ml
Of juice and it's closer to 1/3 than 1/2 remaining. I guess it's possible the meter is way off and maybe I'll Get a lot more but nowhere near the levels you're Vaping at. Is there a software update? I can't see it on their page.
I don't know if there's a software update I'll have to look.
Another thing what kind of battery are you using? And is it fairly new or have you been using it for awhile?
It's a pretty new Samsung 25r. I use it in the Evic mini and ax mini m class. I'll try another battery but his one hasn't benign me issues. Provari p3 states it's at 79 iq (never seen a new battery score higher than 84%) which is actually quite good.
Gotcha. I wanted to make sure you weren't using an efest battery as they tend to be rewraps of b stock batteries. But your not so the battery shouldn't be the issue.
What I tend to do for better battery life in a regulated mod is try and keep my ohms around 1 and use 28ga wire. This way you don't kill the battery trying to heat the coil.
I don't think the battery life in this thing is ever going to be stellar but you should be able to get it to manageable at least.
As I use it more I'll update you on what I come up with as far as battery
Wish I could've been more help
I appreciate thanks. If I can get an inexpensive bfa that works for mouth to lung and get say 3.5 ml per battery. Id probably be fine with it. If nothing else k guess I'll look into a chip swap. I know he's using half a joy tech solution. The other half probably will fit in there. Hopefully the buttons line up. I really think
It's a bad move for mod Makers to Bother writing their own chip software most times. There are just
Too many off the shelf solutions which are going to be brand able and work better. That probably should have been a bigger red flag to me. The upside is the chip in the Evic mini is as good or better than any other chip I've used including the 350j and dna200. And it's super cheap. So if I can swap I will. His layout is just like he Evic mini. He may not be totally truthful about creating a custom solution. I hope he's not being truthful about it and he can get their latest updates rolled into One Of his for this box.
I've sent an email detailing th battery issue and straight out told him that 300% usage is not an adjustment for parasitic loss. We will see what he has to say. I can say on a Dna 30 chip I get like 7 ml of juice off a 1.2 build at 12.5-15 watts. The Evic probably slightly less.
I'll Go back a Couple Pages and see if I can order a bfa that suits me from the recommended ones. I'm sure having a satisfying vape would make me much more tolerant of other issues.
By the way I
Ordered on the 9th and it took until today - ARIZONA
I see it was another thread with the bfa recommendations for small
Single coil flavor chasing mouth to lung atomizer. Can anyone point me towards a reasonably priced atomizer that fits the bill? I thought I made that post here but just went back through the posts and don't see it. Shoot.
Also I will say the design is good. It's relatively compact for all the cheap
That has to fit inside. They did s good job with that
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I've found the meter drops quickly at first, then slows down.
Even when it shows just a little on the meter, the battery is still at 3.7v
Have been getting about 6-7ml out of a LGhg2 3000mah
Dual coil .55ohm, 40watts
Just wish the batteries were easier to put in and out. Very tight.
Even when it shows just a little on the meter, the battery is still at 3.7v
Have been getting about 6-7ml out of a LGhg2 3000mah
Dual coil .55ohm, 40watts
Just wish the batteries were easier to put in and out. Very tight.
$60. More than 1/2 bottle on one battery charge, 40 watts dual 0.43 ohm. If I didn't have another on the way I would gladly offer to relieve you of this misfortune. Read before I ordered and found out I did not want the Atty that comes with it. BTW when the meter shows 1/2 you still have 3.9V. TBH I think my SX350J drops a little quicker.
Oh and check out the Origen Little 16.
Oh and check out the Origen Little 16.
Exactly the same for me.
If you take out the swirly insert in the atty and put in the straight one, dremmel off that dumb anti spitback thing on the drip tip, line up the airholes with the coil, it's not a bad atty.
Take a look at the SOD5K, it's on sale & he offer's a bottom feed pin for an additional $5.00. The flavor is excellent, nicely machined & great for MTL vaping. I've run mine with a horizontal & vertical coil, it's a fun deck to build on.
Science of Dripping "SOD 5k" Atomizer Kit - Science of Vaping
Science of Dripping "SOD 5k" Atomizer Kit - Science of Vaping
Yah it looks like this meter really mislead me. I apologize. To not quite dead yet and I've passed about 4ml. Really weird that so Much went on the first 1.5 ml of juice. Then the final third of the battery seems to last forever. So I appreciate it. Thank you.
Origin little authentic would be too expensive for what I'm looking for but I gather there's a great clone such accepts the authentic tic bfa pin to
Convert. Has anyone done this ? If so which clone ?
This was the page I was sent previously
Rebuildable atomizer & supplies
I'll Check out the SOD stuff thanks
I feel a bit relieved now and sorry I jumped so quickly to the ash toon battery drain would be liners. Had it I would have been dead at 2ml. Now I'm happier and I just need to find the right low cost atomizer solution to really get this squonk test going.
The idea is if this works well I'll go for a more high end setup after selling off one of my mark bugs gems and a mod or two. I also have a two week old heron v2 / paps v4 (HnP) setup that doesn't suit me and I need to sell.
Thanks all. Sorry again for the quick judgement. I haven't experienced a mod before where the meter was calibrated this way but I still should have known better than to jump to judgment.
Re: inserting and removing the battery. Mine doesn't feel terribly tight burnt does feel like the ribbon that's there to facilitate removal
Of the battery is not long for the mod. Hopefully I'm wrong but it feels quite delicate. Have any of you pulled it off by accident ?
Origin little authentic would be too expensive for what I'm looking for but I gather there's a great clone such accepts the authentic tic bfa pin to
Convert. Has anyone done this ? If so which clone ?
This was the page I was sent previously
Rebuildable atomizer & supplies
I'll Check out the SOD stuff thanks
I feel a bit relieved now and sorry I jumped so quickly to the ash toon battery drain would be liners. Had it I would have been dead at 2ml. Now I'm happier and I just need to find the right low cost atomizer solution to really get this squonk test going.
The idea is if this works well I'll go for a more high end setup after selling off one of my mark bugs gems and a mod or two. I also have a two week old heron v2 / paps v4 (HnP) setup that doesn't suit me and I need to sell.
Thanks all. Sorry again for the quick judgement. I haven't experienced a mod before where the meter was calibrated this way but I still should have known better than to jump to judgment.
Re: inserting and removing the battery. Mine doesn't feel terribly tight burnt does feel like the ribbon that's there to facilitate removal
Of the battery is not long for the mod. Hopefully I'm wrong but it feels quite delicate. Have any of you pulled it off by accident ?
The build reminds me of the veritas. Is there a center pin in accessories somewhere or do I need to
Email the guy? Price is right and reviews like yours state it's great for mtl and flavor. Looks good but I'm not totally sold on the veritas style design. Is it different than the veritas and if so how?
Thanks a lot for the help!
Found the pin conversion here
Science of Dripping "S.O.D. 5K" Bottom Feeder Adapter Kit Gold - Science of Vaping
I watched Todd,s review helper me at the vertical build. I'm not a big fan as I feel flavor typically isn't as good. However that can vary device to device. He also absolutely jammed the well with cotton. I don't drip much but when I do I find that doesn't work well for me. Stuff in the tail end just doesn't ever properly get to the coil once I pass a certain length so I end up wasting juice and crossing flavors. If I'm dripping it's due to wanting to change flavors so the last thing I want is lingering cotton tails with three or four flavors in them slowly creeping to the coil contaminating my current flavor.
With that in mind when duo king do you keep the cotton minor? Or add as much as you can? What are your preferences ? This was the dual coil build on the aromizer.
@fishwater Do you have my images of a horizontal build? And how well does it work with building. A coil on one side but the bottom feeding pin sending juice all over the well. Do you just remember where the coil is and squonk when tipping the setup so the coil is lower than the rest which would send juice that way ? Have you tried any of the bfa that reo offers ? The chalice iii is a no brainier for me as I am in love with the gem tank but it's just too much money. If you can compare to anything else that may help. And finally if you were just using the single air hole would that be enough ?
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