Steam Crave regulated squonker

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I'm not familiar with the Veritas but for flavor it beats my Atomic, Derringer, Stumpy, Vortex or any other Atty I own. I drilled the air out on mine since it was too tight for me but now it's perfect. Well worth the price & you won't find many authentics for the same money.
 

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$60. More than 1/2 bottle on one battery charge, 40 watts dual 0.43 ohm. If I didn't have another on the way I would gladly offer to relieve you of this misfortune. Read before I ordered and found out I did not want the Atty that comes with it. BTW when the meter shows 1/2 you still have 3.9V. TBH I think my SX350J drops a little quicker.
Oh and check out the Origen Little 16.
My 350j gives me an extra 1ml compared to the SC squonker.
 

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I'm not familiar with the Veritas but for flavor it beats my Atomic, Derringer, Stumpy, Vortex or any other Atty I own. I drilled the air out on mine since it was too tight for me but now it's perfect. Well worth the price & you won't find many authentics for the same money.
Alright sold. I ordered one. I can't drill anything out right now unless reaming it is possible by hand due to some limitations until I'm through physical therapy. But yah $35.75 for an authentic with adaptor pin which by all accounts kicks out a dense flavorful vape. I can't really argue. That's right at the price I needed. I'll deal with the minor annoyance of hot air rushing out the hole. And if I need to drill out for more air I will at some point after physical therapy. Priority mail. Shouldn't take that long.

Battery just died in the steam crave box I probably got 2.5-3 ml out of it. I expect that will
Improve with the new atomizer and a single
Coil build with much less power going to it. If not then the chip needs updating. Thanks again and once again sorry forum ping to conclusions. I didn't realize the meter would work that way. I appreciate the help.

Here's the level where it finally died. Trying a different battery now. I'll refill the bottle just to keep track better.
 
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I'm not familiar with the Veritas but for flavor it beats my Atomic, Derringer, Stumpy, Vortex or any other Atty I own. I drilled the air out on mine since it was too tight for me but now it's perfect. Well worth the price & you won't find many authentics for the same money.
Oh I found that other thread where you'd replied right after you bought one of these. You seemed happy then and now. So three weeks or so didn't change your Mind that's a pretty good selling point
 

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Oh I found that other thread where you'd replied right after you bought one of these. You seemed happy then and now. So three weeks or so didn't change your Mind that's a pretty good selling point

Yep, pretty sure you'll enjoy it if MTL is your style of vaping. It's a shame it doesn't get mentioned more.
 

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If you want to modify an existing rda to bottom fed there are two good (closed) threads on this subject:
The BF experiment
Convert full size RDA to Bottom Feeder
Drilling and slotting the insulator and/or pin both work. I have converted many. I haven't tried the atomizer that came with this yet. I am using a Manta clone that I converted.
You can also get pre-drilled pins from Fat-Daddy and save some steps.
Oh, and I got mine. It works pretty well. The battery does drop fast at first. The 1 amp charger helps make up for that. I do have a little leaking from the bottom of the 510 connector. It is decreasing so maybe something is swelling up. I will open it up and make sure that I have the o-ring. Mine also asks new coil far to often. It also forgets that I locked the temperature (330 for titanium works for me.)
I prefer my Gdna but this is a lot cheaper and I didn't have to build it.
 

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Thanks all. I'm not sure what GDNA is and really this is my first entry into squonking. I took the advice from a member of another thread infrequent that this was a good relatively low cost way to start squonking. Who knows if the sale stays on and I love this atomizer I may end up with another which will make my ire joins posts seem even more foolish!

I Saw the fat daddy adaptor but I wasn't sure if it would work with the magma as I thought it's to be a center post design but if they have drilled 510 pins then I guess it probably would. I guess I'll have to email them directly to see if they've seen it with the magma. It's pretty low cost so I may just have to try. The magma is a pretty flavorful dripper but I. Get really annoyed by the fact I have a black clone which makes seeing wick saturation much more
Difficult in all but the best lift j less the top cap is take
Off. The afc and screw in top cap of the magma are both really annoying to me.

That said If it does work I may also grab one of those to have a couple options or for a second squonking setup. If I can find the right atomizer or even get close having two squonk setups at home for my two most used flavors along with a dripper for other stuff may drastically change the way I vape. I mean it's hard to deny that dripping is perhaps the most flavorful way to
Vape unless you consider the design of condensation chamber helps some flavors - in which case tanks like the gem and spheroid have heir place.

I'll have to try and find other good squonking threads before I commit to anything further just to have a better idea of the devices out there. I saw the squonk flask which looks super nice but is priced to match. In going to list the HnP on the Facebook mod page tomorrow and hopefully free up some cash. As well as a like new m class which is just surplus to requirements.

For those considering this device one thing to consider are the dimensions. It's actually a fair bit smaller than k expected. Partially because I'm 6'5" with pretty slender fingers but large hands (So it's extremely Comfortable for Me ) and photos are clearly from those who don't have hands as big as mine. But also just because Im evaluating dimensions it's hard to calculate how much nicer the rounded side is than the square box. I'll add some pictures for a size comparison in a minute for anyone looking to possibly buy

Is anyone else in here a mouth to lung vaper?
 

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Thanks all. I'm not sure what GDNA is and really this is my first entry into squonking. I took the advice from a member of another thread infrequent that this was a good relatively low cost way to start squonking. Who knows if the sale stays on and I love this atomizer I may end up with another which will make my ire joins posts seem even more foolish!

I Saw the fat daddy adaptor but I wasn't sure if it would work with the magma as I thought it's to be a center post design but if they have drilled 510 pins then I guess it probably would. I guess I'll have to email them directly to see if they've seen it with the magma. It's pretty low cost so I may just have to try. The magma is a pretty flavorful dripper but I. Get really annoyed by the fact I have a black clone which makes seeing wick saturation much more
Difficult in all but the best lift j less the top cap is take
Off. The afc and screw in top cap of the magma are both really annoying to me.

That said If it does work I may also grab one of those to have a couple options or for a second squonking setup. If I can find the right atomizer or even get close having two squonk setups at home for my two most used flavors along with a dripper for other stuff may drastically change the way I vape. I mean it's hard to deny that dripping is perhaps the most flavorful way to
Vape unless you consider the design of condensation chamber helps some flavors - in which case tanks like the gem and spheroid have heir place.

I'll have to try and find other good squonking threads before I commit to anything further just to have a better idea of the devices out there. I saw the squonk flask which looks super nice but is priced to match. In going to list the HnP on the Facebook mod page tomorrow and hopefully free up some cash. As well as a like new m class which is just surplus to requirements.

For those considering this device one thing to consider are the dimensions. It's actually a fair bit smaller than k expected. Partially because I'm 6'5" with pretty slender fingers but large hands (So it's extremely Comfortable for Me ) and photos are clearly from those who don't have hands as big as mine. But also just because Im evaluating dimensions it's hard to calculate how much nicer the rounded side is than the square box. I'll add some pictures for a size comparison in a minute for anyone looking to possibly buy

Is anyone else in here a mouth to lung vaper?
I am. My favorites are the SOD, RM2 (available at reos mods), and the chalice, in that order.
 
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RM2 is a cracking little atty. Beats my magma for flavour. My Chalice 3 clone is also a good little atty but I had to modify mine a little. In my opinion the 14mm Attys are about the best single coil setups for MTL. RM2 is about the easiest to build on. I don't use a regulated mod but easily get about 5 or 6mls on a decent 18650 battery before I need to swap. My normal builds are between 1 and 1.8 ohms. The voltage drop is less noticeable if you build higher up the ohm range. I doubt you would go back to tanks or drippers, once you get a squonker setup you like. Much less hassle than anything else I have run. If you can live with a slow drop off in vapour production the mech squonkers are pretty bomb proof in terms of reliable setups.
 
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So I did use the aromizer v2 for a limited lung inhale. I went the way I often do which is open the air up all the way and use a drip tip that's slightly long with a 4.2mm internal diameter drip tip. Probably the most flavorful drip tip I own. As a lung hitter I can't really complain about the aromizer. I'd think most vapers will be happy enough with the Included atomizer for $10 more. So I'd encourage people who vape with direct lung inhale to spend the few bucks more to buy it. The anti spit chuff cap works well for the lung inhales, at least for me. It's good enough if you like that style of vaping, at least for someone who does it here and there. It makes bigger clouds and has better airflow and probably flavor than the magma clone I'm using. That surprised me. Actually I'd say as far as lung hits go - I don't tend to vape that way as I feel flavor is really missing. But I get a lot of flavor off this one.

Actually is there a way to replace the center pin and just use the aromizer as a dripper? I won't commit to squonking with it but it could take a place in the lineup as a dripper. Specifically for tobacco flavors I vape very rarely. I don't suppose it's easy as using a pin from something I may have already. Issue of course is paying shipping and waiting for just a screw. Unless it maybe came with a solid center pin in the box and I missed it?

I am. My favorites are the SOD, RM2 (available at reos mods), and the chalice, in that order.

Oh excellent. I'm glad @fishwater steered me to it. If it's really that good I'll probably buy a second while they're still on sale. So you obviously don't then think the chalice iii is worth the premium over the sod5k or rm2 at the end of the day would you mind by chance showing me a picture of a build in the SOD5k? How long have these been on sale? Is it a very limited time thing (like order a second right now) or have they been on sale a while as they're changing to a newer design etc? I considered buying two when I checked out but decided against it as I've never tried it

RM2 is a cracking little atty. Beats my magma for flavour. My Chalice 3 clone is also a good little atty but I had to modify mine a little. In my opinion the 14mm Attys are about the best single coil setups for MTL. RM2 is about the easiest to build on. I don't use a regulated mod but easily get about 5 or 6mls on a decent 18650 battery before I need to swap. My normal builds are between 1 and 1.8 ohms. The voltage drop is less noticeable if you build higher up the ohm range. I doubt you would go back to tanks or drippers, once you get a squonker setup you like. Much less hassle than anything else I have run. If you can live with a slow drop off in vapour production the mech squonkers are pretty bomb proof in terms of reliable setups.

First on the rm2 - I see a bunch of stuff listed around that on Google. I still can't seem to find the right piece. yah I'd definitely consider a mech squonking especially because temp control for me on a squonking becomes a lot less impactful than on a tank. Where did you get the chalice 3 clone and are they still around? The gem tank clone doesn't seem so great and I'm not that interested in huge modifications to clones to get them to work. Like. I swapped 8 o rings, drilled out the air, retreaded the base, etc. but if it's minor like replace the bottom pin with a different one maybe I'll try the clone. I don't see them around at the usual places and I wouldn't be surprised if it's out of stock. One other reason I'd consider a clone is the fact that squonking remake just isn't really there. On the other hand with the price of the rm2 and SOD5k what's the point in buying s clone - especially one that has to be modified for the same price as a great authentic.

What are some of the smallest mech or regulated squonking setups? I doubt in the end it will matter too much as I likely will not take a squonking setup out and about but maybe if I end up taking one to work so I'd like to know what the good choices are. Is there a general squonking thread? I don't want to derail this one further.


Finally for all here. How do you tend to go with cotton on squonkers, not too much or a whole bunch? I don't go like a lot of people and do the fill the entire base with cotton as I don't feel it ever totally travels to the coil and you end up cross contaminating flavor and wasting eliquid as well as slowing down the wicking process. Maybe it's because I use 90% liquid a lot of the time.

Also @fishwater the one I bought at $25 only has the single hole cap right? Or was I supposed to specify to them which cap I wanted ? It seems like everyone is saying the dual cap is the way to go. In a tank I wouldn't have an issue with one 2mm air hole but that's probably different for the dripper.
 
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Re the chalice clone, mine was from fastech, I knocked the inner cap out and drilled the outer cap. 10 min job. My clone would short when the cap was on. I Did not really need the AFC as I am a set it and forget it kinda guy. RM2 is easier to build on though and cheap enough. Rob @ REO's mods does a range of mech squonkers. Not cheap but bomb proof. The smallest one is based on a 14500 battery with a 3 ml juice bottle. Its worth emailing him to see if he has any seconds or special offers to get the price down a touch. They come up in the classifieds to. I am on a tight budget so I had to save up for mine, don't regret buying it for a second. I have not used another setup since April last year. I use a small amount of cotton and squonk every 5 or 6 pulls. No dry hits or leaking once you get used to it.
 

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I think the single hole for MTL is the ticket. I'm a half lung, half mouth kind of guy so I drilled mine a little & it's perfect. Someday I'll get the dual cap but I haven't felt the need to buy it since I'm running a single coil on the SOD, I have other atty's for dual coils.

As far as mech's just buy a Reo, don't waste time with anything else, every squonker needs at least one. The Reo is bomb proof, Rob's customer service is stellar & since there are always Reo's in the classifieds you can grab one for a great price. Many squonkers, myself included, supposedly move on to sexier regulated box mods but for simple no fuss squonking nothing compares IMO. The Reo is light, fits the hand perfectly & so simple it's the one that all are compared too, you can buy something sexier but nothing is more bulletproof than a Reo. Plus, I usually vape the whole 6.5ml bottle on a single 18650 running dual coils are .5 ohms. Probably the reason why I still have two Reo's in my collection......
 

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Oh yeah, forgot, family pic time....
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Take a look at the SOD5K, it's on sale & he offer's a bottom feed pin for an additional $5.00. The flavor is excellent, nicely machined & great for MTL vaping. I've run mine with a horizontal & vertical coil, it's a fun deck to build on.

Science of Dripping "SOD 5k" Atomizer Kit - Science of Vaping
Here is a build on an SOD. It has 26ga Clapton wire, 2.5mm bit and 6 wraps. It comes in with about .8 ohms. (Of course, it is on a mech mod but I have the same setup on a reo)
 
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Yep, pretty sure you'll enjoy it if MTL is your style of vaping. It's a shame it doesn't get mentioned more.
Hey could you tell me where the slotted but goes on the sod5k center pin replacement? I. Assume it's slotted to make a channel for the juice so it goes on bottom. Slot up or down?

Oh the insularity came apart too. No idea how it was in there. There's a wider and narrower part. And it's really pushed in on the other Half. Is that normal?


Narrow separated
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Wider separated
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Pushed in on bottom which I assume is to allow space for the screw head
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Slotted nut on the bottom so it lines up with the squonk hole in the pin then the knurled nut on top of that. I didn't have room for the washer on my unit so I didn't use it. You trap your positive lead between the slotted & knurled nut then hand tighten when building a coil. Hope this helps.
Yah helps. Thanks! Which way does the insulator go in wide side up or down and the nu slot side up or down?

Oh and regarding the washer vu have two sizes. A small and larger vu don't remember which was stock and which was replacement pin. I stupidly thought they'd be the same size and didn't check! Maybe the small one would fit in yours. Did you see there's a smaller one?

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I don't remember which way the insulator went in but I believe it only goes in one way. The slot on the nut face's up, it will line up with the squonk hole if you tighten it with pliers. The the two different size washers are for the pin because I believe they are different diameters but I don't think you'll be able to fit them regardless. In my atty the pin comes up through the base of the atty then I tightened the slotted nut down facing up until it lined up with the hole in the pin, then I installed the knurled nut leaving it loose until I built my coil.
 

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I don't remember which way the insulator went in but I believe it only goes in one way. The slot on the nut face's up, it will line up with the squonk hole if you tighten it with pliers. The the two different size washers are for the pin because I believe they are different diameters but I don't think you'll be able to fit them regardless. In my atty the pin comes up through the base of the atty then I tightened the slotted nut down facing up until it lined up with the hole in the pin, then I installed the knurled nut leaving it loose until I built my coil.
The insulator will Go either way. I put it thinner side up. Guess it's not important.

So to me putting slot side down with the washer and tool tightening is really the only way it works without moving out of alignment. I think yours didn't fit with the washer is because you have the but wrong side up

I put the large washer in and nut slot Face down. Use an Allen to tighten it properly and it absolutely won't budge now and is perfectly aligned. I was just thinking you want the slot facing down so when you trap Wire it doesn't trap in the slot maybe causing connectivity issues. Also When you face the slot down the washer lifts it to the perfect height providing you tool tighten. With it the jt her way t doesn't allow the washer to be used. I'm relatively sure this is the right way - flip the slot on yours and out the washer under it. You'll see why I mean. It allows perfect alignment and no Movement. This is handy when loosening the top nut as the other way the whole post shifted.

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Thanks for the help! I should have worked through it logically Before asking. I'm
Going to
Build it now and slap it on the steam
Crave. I was considering doing s temp
Build for the stack crave but I gather battery life is even worse in temp
Mode ?
 
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