Hello! Since I don't have an Ultrasonic, I'm curious about using a slow cooker on low for speed "steeping". Anyone have experience doing this?
I'm an impatient soul.
Thanks!
I'm an impatient soul.
Thanks!
Steep with a slow cooker?
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I've tried sitting a fresh mixed bottle of juice on top of the cable box a few times while watching a hockey game for heat steeping and shook it between periods. 
Cheers,
Steve
Cheers,
Steve
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Oh hockey... good times. We used to have a local minor league. Man I miss that. Pretty neat timing to do that between periods, too.
Another question. Is this caps on? I'm not mixing with alcohol, nor do I believe any of my flavors contain it. I think.
Another question. Is this caps on? I'm not mixing with alcohol, nor do I believe any of my flavors contain it. I think.
I never leave the caps off while steeping. The only time I left the cap off was overnight for a few store bought juices that had an alcohol/chemical smell. Leaving the caps off I consider as airing the juice out. Just my 
Cheers,
Steve
Cheers,
Steve
Why is that? I can understand not storing or heating up your concentrated NIC solution in a hot place as it makes it oxidize but steeping at the correct temperature speeds the steeping process and although it does oxidize the NIC slightly it is not enough to spoil the mix. It may have an effect a year or so down the road but the juice you mixed will likely be long gone by then.
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Nicotine is not a stable chemical and it has a low tolerance to heat.
It's tight bond to glycols may save it in eliquid, I haven't seen any tests on heating liquid before an after. I just know it's not good to heat it so I don't.
So, it's kinda yes, kinda no. Well, I suppose I could try a batch, test it for nic level after, then test the batch not used in the slow cooker. That'd be interesting I suppose.
Ive been looking for a definite yes or no to this for awhile and it hurts my brain 
it just seems to me that 150 degrees or less just isnt that hot. just enough to thin everything to bond together quickly. dont remember now but I know it vaporizes at alot higher temperature. and when you smoke you are setting fire to it. in food where its just found naturally you bake it in the oven at 350 degrees +. it seems you would have notice at some point that something terrible happens when heated and it just wouldnt be used for anything. Im sure this is an extremely dumb statement to some. but its one of the many questions in mind . IM guessing heating it in the oven at 500 degrees would make it pretty nasty for other reasons but would the nic be "bad" ? like i said dont know anything about nicotine. drilling fluid , bentonite, polymer , mud , soil and rocks are the things i know about lol. ive naturally steeped , ultrasonic steeped, crock pot, rice. for me a little heat makes quick work of it and if there is a difference its not enough that I think the average joe would even notice or care. ultra sonic 2nd and natural 3rd cuz aint nobody got time for that !!!!!!hahahaha
it just seems to me that 150 degrees or less just isnt that hot. just enough to thin everything to bond together quickly. dont remember now but I know it vaporizes at alot higher temperature. and when you smoke you are setting fire to it. in food where its just found naturally you bake it in the oven at 350 degrees +. it seems you would have notice at some point that something terrible happens when heated and it just wouldnt be used for anything. Im sure this is an extremely dumb statement to some. but its one of the many questions in mind . IM guessing heating it in the oven at 500 degrees would make it pretty nasty for other reasons but would the nic be "bad" ? like i said dont know anything about nicotine. drilling fluid , bentonite, polymer , mud , soil and rocks are the things i know about lol. ive naturally steeped , ultrasonic steeped, crock pot, rice. for me a little heat makes quick work of it and if there is a difference its not enough that I think the average joe would even notice or care. ultra sonic 2nd and natural 3rd cuz aint nobody got time for that !!!!!!hahahaha
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I'll have more time for trying it and testing batches this Friday and Saturday, so I'll post what I find. Yay, science stuff.
I'll have more time for trying it and testing batches this Friday and Saturday, so I'll post what I find. Yay, science stuff.
Ive been looking for a definite yes or no to this for awhile and it hurts my brain
I think we vaporize in the 150°F area. PG boils at 188.2°. As long as the coil is wet that's as high as it's going to get.
Smoking destroys a lot of the nicotine that's actually in the tobacco.
I got time for natural. I tried ultrasonic, it's not worth the added labor when I can just make it 3 weeks ahead. Every time a couple of my regulars are empty I make a batch and maybe throw in a new recipe or two.
3 regulars, average 3ml a day, I only make liquids once a month.
I never leave the caps off while steeping. The only time I left the cap off was overnight for a few store bought juices that had an alcohol/chemical smell. Leaving the caps off I consider as airing the juice out. Just my
Same here, mostly I leave the caps on, maybe take em off now and then just to give it a breath of fresh air, but I got one from myvaporstore that has the ickiest chemical whang to it, so I've been leaving it with its cap off in a cupboard for almost a week now. Pretty soon I'll recap it and leave in the drawer with the others. Not sure it can ever be salvaged, but I'll leave it be for a while, who knows.
Andria
Eventually, I hope to like my mixes so much that I have 'em pinpointed to be able to mix them that much ahead of time. Once I get my mojo going with this part of my vaping adventure, that is. I've gotten so into it, I forgot to spend time with my coils. Now I have no back ups and will tend to those pronto! Needing a 3rd hand.
This is fun!
?? Online sources report that propylene glycol boils at 370.8°F (188.2°C)
But, as anybody who's been in a cold fog can attest, you don't need to boil something to get it to saturate the air.
As I chew on this, I have no issues with trying to steep in a cooker, but I also wouldn't expect miracles. Fortunately, the reason nicotine breaks down is usually light, not heat (OK, so that's light as well, just in the IR range). I'd look forward to hearing how it turned out.
To date, I steep the old fashioned way, but I have a stable recipe and always make it with at least 30 days to go in my old bottle. Plus the recipe is blatant and simple enough that it really doesn't require steeping at all--but does benefit from it.
But, as anybody who's been in a cold fog can attest, you don't need to boil something to get it to saturate the air.
As I chew on this, I have no issues with trying to steep in a cooker, but I also wouldn't expect miracles. Fortunately, the reason nicotine breaks down is usually light, not heat (OK, so that's light as well, just in the IR range). I'd look forward to hearing how it turned out.
To date, I steep the old fashioned way, but I have a stable recipe and always make it with at least 30 days to go in my old bottle. Plus the recipe is blatant and simple enough that it really doesn't require steeping at all--but does benefit from it.
Now that I think about it, I should probably test what I put into the slow cooker before and after so I have an accurate "subject". Yeah, that's what I'll do.
I've done it both ways - the equivalent of several weeks in the ultrasonic and in the slow cooker. The slow cooker is just simpler, because I don't have to press the button every 8 minutes, and it most definitely takes juice that benefits from time from 'young' to 'mature' in an afternoon 
I read on another forum that someone did test the nicotine, and the loss after steeping either way was very small. I don't care whether I vape 12mg (as it starts) or 11. But I'm impatient, so I don't want to wait weeks to find out what it will taste like when it's fully 'cooked!'
Quite honestly, I already had the slow cooker and am slightly sad that I bought an ultrasonic - on the other hand my jewelry needed a good cleaning LOL Oh, and I expect I can make a stew at the same time....
I read on another forum that someone did test the nicotine, and the loss after steeping either way was very small. I don't care whether I vape 12mg (as it starts) or 11. But I'm impatient, so I don't want to wait weeks to find out what it will taste like when it's fully 'cooked!'
Quite honestly, I already had the slow cooker and am slightly sad that I bought an ultrasonic - on the other hand my jewelry needed a good cleaning LOL Oh, and I expect I can make a stew at the same time....
Once you get there you can use your old bottles for the recipe without rinsing and "seed steep". That seems to cut the time of natural down.
I only needed 2 "ADV", the other 2-3 regulars are fill ins.
Unlfavored would stretch the life of your coils to almost forever.
I hate C and F. I could've swore it said F for PG boils, probably didn't say either way and I assumed.
I do remember long ago here there were people testing their coils and it was in the 150° range. I saw someone on YT checking and he got up to 300° but he also had it glowing.
There was a test done by dvap(the forum chemist), he is also the one that developed the nicotine test, wish I could find the link.
This is what I recall, so take it all with a grain of salt Bottles where topped off with oxygen, left on a car dashboard, in full sunlight, for a month in the Phoenix summer. The result was 7% loss of nic. I'm not too worried about four hours at 150 F.
This is what I recall, so take it all with a grain of salt
Bottles where topped off with oxygen, left on a car dashboard, in full sunlight, for a month in the Phoenix summer. The result was 7% loss of nic. I'm not too worried about four hours at 150 F.- Status
