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STEEPING Ms T's Flavors

Discussion in 'Ms T's Bakery' started by Tempus Fugit, Apr 26, 2013.

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  1. Tempus Fugit

    Tempus Fugit Super Member ECF Veteran

    Lots of new customers ask me, so I thought I might post my explanation about Ms T's e-juice and steeping. I will direct those who ask here, so they can benefit from other opinions too. Short story, yes, most of Ms T's juices benefit from steeping. Long story: Orders are created in the order in which they are received. There's no picking and pulling premade stuff from shelves, every bottle is made fresh for your order. When the liquids leave Ms T, most are very nearly clear. Over the course of the next three days in the mail, they may begin to change color slightly.

    Not all of Ms T's juices will change color. Some stay completely clear for as long as you keep them. Some flavorings that Ms T uses do contain colorings, although Ms T never adds any additional color. If an item's product description says something about "no artificial colorings", it will most likely remain clear or at least translucent with age. If it has colorings (like many bakery or chocolate flavors), it will darken and become opaque.

    The reason I mention color is because it is an easy visual indicator showing that steeping is taking place. Steeping seems to be a natural reaction among the ingredients (particularly the flavorings and nicotine), air, and light. The net effect is that color often changes, and the flavors tend to blend better, come out more, or even mellow out. Most anyone will tell you that there would a big difference between a fresh bottle of Snickerdoodle Cookies and a month-old bottle. Their colors would not match and the flavor of the older bottle would be more pleasant. Another excellent example of this is pretty much anything Strawberry. If you like straight fruit flavors, try our Strawberry, if you like bakery stuff, try the Strawberry Shortcake (seriously). When received, either of these will be nearly clear and almost colorless. Within a few days, they will become more yellow. When fresh, one might think it is a decent flavor. When steeped, it is amazing.

    There are many philosophies on steeping. I will only recommend one. There are others that sound plausible, but I have not tried them so I can neither give pros nor cons. Some definitely sound like things I would not recommend. The standard method of steeping is easy, but takes a little time. Leave the bottles sitting out, caps on. Make sure they are not in direct sunlight. Room temperature is fine. You could put them in a dark cabinet instead, but I believe this might slow the process. That's pretty much it. Leave them there for 7-10 days after you receive them. Just make sure they are secure from children and pets! Whenever I think of it during that process, I will open each bottle, squeeze the air out, turn the bottle upside down, and release the pressure on the bottle allowing the air to reenter the bottle from the bottom and percolate up through the juice. I'll put the cap back on and shake it. Not sure if that helps, but I don't think it hurts. Within a week, you'll notice a color change (very significant in some cases) and they should be ready to go.

    Others might tell you to leave the cap and dropper tip off overnight, or even for longer periods of time. This may work, but this is one I haven't tried. I would be concerned about too much evaporation, but then again I live in the desert. Please avoid any methods that will "cook" the juice. We do NOT recommend that you microwave them, immerse the bottles themselves into hot water, or set atop a warm network router for days. These liquids are not intended to be slow cooked, and I suspect that this would degrade the nicotine if nothing else. There are probably other methods, all of which can be found here on ECF I'm sure. It's up to you how you want to do it, just don't ruin it! The above is the opinion of Ms T's on how our liquids SHOULD be handled.

    Remember, if you try one of our flavors minutes after you ambush your mail carrier for it, it MAY not be quite ready for you yet. If it doesn't scream at you, put it up for a week and try it again after that. In most cases, there will be a big change that you may like! Now, some flavors are great right out of the box and will not change much, and they usually tend to be/stay clear. My favorites are New Watermelon, Nectarine, and Tangerine for tearing into right away. These still improve with steeping even though they don't change color, and the difference in taste is not too profound. The vast majority of the bakery flavors do really benefit from steeping. There are also different opinions on how long to steep (some like to go much longer than a week). We have found that "at least" a week is a good rule of thumb until one discovers their own preference for particular flavors. It is not NECESSARY to steep, and you can use every flavor right out of the box. However, the general consensus seems to be that if you don't try our flavors steeped, your are missing out.

    Of course if anyone else has anything to contribute to this, please do, including steeping methods and time spent steeping, which of our flavors YOU think are good steeped/unsteeped, etc. It would be very helpful to newcomers! I might sticky this.

    Ms T's Bakery
  2. jdrewry

    jdrewry Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 16, 2011
    New Jersey
    I have a tackle box that I use for keeping my supplies and juice in. I'll get my juices, open them up once to get a smell, then put them in the tackle box for about two weeks before I try them.
  3. HarmonyPB

    HarmonyPB Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 19, 2011
    Houston, Texas, USA
    I let all of Ms. T's juice steep for 2 weeks. I put them out of the way and take the cap off, just the top cap, not the dropper cap. If I think about it I'll give them a shake. But I try not to think about them too much or 2 weeks can seem like forever!
    If it's a new flavor I'll try it when I first get it but I still let it steep just to see what happens.
    Peppermint and MintTee are good straight out of the mail and stay clear forever.
    French Vanilla stays an orange-ish color in the bottle for months. In my clearo it turns brown after a few days. If I have a bottle last long enough it will turn darker and darker brown.

    I've tried many other flavors but I'm not very observant. Those are my staples so I've noticed these things over the years.
  4. Grandma SJA

    Grandma SJA Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 11, 2010
    kc mo
    always let my juice from every vendor steep. It seems the longer the better.
  5. Pinggolfer

    Pinggolfer Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    I was just going to ask that question about steeping. I'll have a difficult time waiting 2 weeks to try a flavor but from what I just read it's worth the wait. Apparently steeping happens with or without the cap on.
  6. HarmonyPB

    HarmonyPB Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 19, 2011
    Houston, Texas, USA
    Thanks for the bump Speed! I was looking for this thread last night.
  7. RedhatPat

    RedhatPat Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Oct 10, 2012
    Lancaster, Pa
    The first 3 days I let them sit in the dark with the cap on then vigorously shake once every 24 hours like-clockwork, sometimes letting my woman or a machine do the shaking for me then I burp them and put 'em away. I still have a Blu Premium100 starter kit box laying around that I've been using to fit up 4 30ML bottles.

    In my opinion, Banana Fosters Coffee without Cream is good right out of the mailbox but it definitely gets better in time and I feel heavy shaking can shave off a week from your average steep-time, folks.

    Brandon, as always keep up the good work, your help makes an already great product even better. Great Post!

  8. Tempus Fugit

    Tempus Fugit Super Member ECF Veteran

    Thanks for the "like" and the kind words RHP, but actually I no longer have any affiliation with Ms T or her products. I am glad that you can find value in some of my past posts though!

  9. Pinggolfer

    Pinggolfer Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    RedhatPat Now that is what I call giving it a shake.
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