still a smoker, want to switch

[Ladiekali]

Andrea,
You will probably be happy with the regular tobacco flavor.
They have excellent customer service and they want you to be happy so feel free to shoot them an email.
They also honor their money back guarantees completely, my g6 i only got partial credit for.
Originally i contacted white cloud for returns because i wasnt happy with light nicotine flavor.
They called me, talked to me, sent me some stuff for free to try out, they also extended my warranty incase i still didnt like it, turns out i needed a higher nic level. If you like njoy, you probably will be happy with the flings.
The mini flings are the size of a cigarette, the regular flings are longer.
The mouth pieces are kinda soft so it even feels more like a ciggy.
I love the accessories as well.
If you find you really like them their rechargeable kits go on sale ecery so often for like $10 off.
Their case is alot like njoys so if you have one laying around 3 miniflings will fit.
Or you can buy one...

Buy Electronic Cigarettes | Disposable & Rechargeable | White Cloud



To show the flexible tip

 

[alisa1970]

I prefer mech mods and either my dripper or genny. Mech mods so I can go sub ohm. Sub ohm on the AGA T2 is like hell yeah.

Yeah, cuz that's exactly what the OP was asking for...

 

[Ladiekali]

I would try both the light and and full, thats where i messed up. This way you know the difference. Also they often go on sale too and make them even cheaper, so stock up when there is a sale.

And to djsvapor,
Dude i dont work for these people im just throwing out multiple choices for the op. And sharing my personal experience with the products ive used. An $8 battery with 510 connection may be expensive to you... Yet $13 halo battery is cheap? Dont get it.
She wants something cigalike and something affordable and if she gets the g6 and dont like it shes out money. All i was sayi g was that the panda evolve battery gave you more options for clearomiers and cartos. I have had both.

If i had my choice the op would be buying a vv3 with kwx5 tank or a kanger esmart (for the quality) and greymatter ejuice from mistereliquid, but you know what.... She dont want that... So ok lets look at other options until there is something that SHE feels good about buying, unless you would like to pif and buy her something, lighten up.

SHE IS LOOKING FOR A GOOD CIGALIKE
Sounds like op doesnt want to fiddle with juices and tanks or clearos.
Not yet atleast and that is OK, there is a vape for every one. And not every one wants or needs the same set up.
Probably not going to find that at a vape shop. The ones we have here dont have them.
I have spent over $2000 since september on this stuff. Most of it is crap. Some of us want to vape and go. Kinda like plug and play, just pick it up and vape it.

Good luck andria. I would suggest starting with the flings, if you find something else great in the meantime youll have your flings to get you buy. Like imsaid i always have some flings for emergencies and look at all the batteries in my signature. Thats not even all of them. I have bought more than 16 different clearos. Hundreds in ejuices and even more in diy juice

 

[AndriaD]

Hi Andria,

Welcome to ECF--love your dry sense of humor! I was a 30 year smoker, didn't intend to quit at all. My goal was "if it's as good as smoking, maybe I can be a bit healthier about a habit I love". I started off very much like you--a few disposables then looked for something more permanent, and hopefully better than the taste of those Blu's.

My search led me here, and I discovered that maybe I'd like to try lots of different flavors, so I decided that pre-filled cartomizers weren't going to work. At first I was ready to go with the Halo G6 because of the size. Then I started reading some more reviews about the kind of vapes we call "cigalikes" and found this thread:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/joyetech-eroll-mini/397579-joyetech-eroll-user-review.html

I decided to go with this one, because it had tanks and not a cartomizer (which I was worried about all the "dry hit" comments I had read) and because of the size. I was really turned off to the diameter of the Blus--they seemed like I was sucking on a large straw, not a cigarette.

Yes, they only come in black, white, or stainless. I got the black one. I quit smoking the day after I got that kit. The amount of vapor, the way it draws, and the size and weight were so much like a cigarette I was stunned that I hadn't had a craving for a real one in a whole day!

One thing that I think is very different about the eRoll from other cigalikes is that the kind of vapor it produces is very dry, and if you get a high nic juice (18-24 mg) that is a heavy tobacco flavor, it can actually taste very much like smoke from a cigarette. Something about the atomizer they use really tones down strong flavors and makes them almost "dusty". The amount of vapor it produces is about the same if not a little more than what a cigarette produces, too. I used that eRoll consistently for 2 months before I felt that I was ready for the bigger, "marker" style setups. I even learned how to "chain vape" with it which is something many think isn't really possible.

Anyway, whichever way you decide, I hope that you are successful and that the transition from smoking to vaping is much more seamless than you expect. It was for me and I can't think of a better way for people to enjoy a lifelong habit without worrying about dying from it.

I really appreciate these tips; I checked out the eRoll and the size/slimness is definitely what I'm looking for -- you're so right about Blu, like a huge fat milkshake straw -- considering that I currently smoke "slims," it feels like this huge fat heavy thing, nothing at all like a cigarette. Have you by any chance tried the JoyeTech flavor "Virginia"? I'm wondering if that taste might be comparable to Virginia Slims. I never thought there was anything strange about their taste, but when I lived at home, my mom would come into my room and demand to know if I was smoking cigars! That was back when I still smoked Lights rather than Ultra-Lights. It seems to me, though I really don't know for sure, that the further north the tobacco comes from, the bitterer the taste -- Marlboros come from North Carolina, and that tobacco tastes sweet to me.

Of course, as I said, I do smoke Ultra-Lights -- I was just standing out on my porch taking these huge drags and holding them in my mouth to try and analyze the taste, but it's so light, I can't really taste that much, but "dusty" is a good description; very smooth though, and with a bitter edge/aftertaste.

The one thing about the JoyeTech eRoll though, is that the starter kit is even a bit more costly than the G6's; I googled it [the eRoll] and found it at litecigusa.net for $54.95, which is about the price of a carton of cigarettes, but then you have to add the cost of the liquid, and then the shipping, and suddenly it's more than a carton, and frankly, I haven't bought cartons for the last 2 years, they cost so damn much. I've been buying 2 pks at Walgreens every other day, and the current price for 2 pks at Walgreens is $11.02. I know, I still end up spending about $88 per half-month pay period, but it doesn't seem so horrible when I do it 11 bucks at a time. So somehow I have to budget to include my usual $88, PLUS the cost of "more than a carton of cigarettes." So it might be a while, till we get our income tax refund (May?), before I have the funds for that large an expenditure -- and that's without knowing if I would even like that flavor. Mighty big outlay for an unknown quantity -- was hard enough to justify $10 for that Blu I just got, and that turned out to be a total waste of money.

I can't even imagine what "chain vape" means; before I started going outside to smoke, I used to chain smoke, kept one in the ashtray pretty much all the time, which explains why I was up to 3 pks a day -- taking it outside got me down to 2 pks a day right away, and since then I have gotten down to right around a pk a day (unless it's freezing weather, when it drops still further!!!).

But I surely do appreciate the tip about the eRoll; it sounds like exactly what I need, to keep the withdrawal wolves at bay when I give up the stinking weed.

Thx!!!
Andria

 

[AndriaD]

Yeah, cuz that's exactly what the OP was asking for...

Yeah I just kinda looked at it and went, okayyyyy... whatever that means!


Andria

 

[alisa1970]

I really appreciate these tips; I checked out the eRoll and the size/slimness is definitely what I'm looking for -- you're so right about Blu, like a huge fat milkshake straw -- considering that I currently smoke "slims," it feels like this huge fat heavy thing, nothing at all like a cigarette. Have you by any chance tried the JoyeTech flavor "Virginia"? I'm wondering if that taste might be comparable to Virginia Slims. I never thought there was anything strange about their taste, but when I lived at home, my mom would come into my room and demand to know if I was smoking cigars! That was back when I still smoked Lights rather than Ultra-Lights. It seems to me, though I really don't know for sure, that the further north the tobacco comes from, the bitterer the taste -- Marlboros come from North Carolina, and that tobacco tastes sweet to me.

Of course, as I said, I do smoke Ultra-Lights -- I was just standing out on my porch taking these huge drags and holding them in my mouth to try and analyze the taste, but it's so light, I can't really taste that much, but "dusty" is a good description; very smooth though, and with a bitter edge/aftertaste.

The one thing about the JoyeTech eRoll though, is that the starter kit is even a bit more costly than the G6's; I googled it [the eRoll] and found it at litecigusa.net for $54.95, which is about the price of a carton of cigarettes, but then you have to add the cost of the liquid, and then the shipping, and suddenly it's more than a carton, and frankly, I haven't bought cartons for the last 2 years, they cost so damn much. I've been buying 2 pks at Walgreens every other day, and the current price for 2 pks at Walgreens is $11.02. I know, I still end up spending about $88 per half-month pay period, but it doesn't seem so horrible when I do it 11 bucks at a time. So somehow I have to budget to include my usual $88, PLUS the cost of "more than a carton of cigarettes." So it might be a while, till we get our income tax refund (May?), before I have the funds for that large an expenditure -- and that's without knowing if I would even like that flavor. Mighty big outlay for an unknown quantity -- was hard enough to justify $10 for that Blu I just got, and that turned out to be a total waste of money.

I can't even imagine what "chain vape" means; before I started going outside to smoke, I used to chain smoke, kept one in the ashtray pretty much all the time, which explains why I was up to 3 pks a day -- taking it outside got me down to 2 pks a day right away, and since then I have gotten down to right around a pk a day (unless it's freezing weather, when it drops still further!!!).

But I surely do appreciate the tip about the eRoll; it sounds like exactly what I need, to keep the withdrawal wolves at bay when I give up the stinking weed.

Thx!!!
Andria

Totally understand you about the budget...I had a hard time with it too, because geez, it really seems like a lot of money especially if you're not sure it will work. So you have the $80-$90, PLUS whatever you might spend on cigarettes.

I think that the flings that were mentioned might be a good way to go, but I am not sure about long term, and if you want to try flavors you won't be able to. If you find that vaping will work for you, spring for the eRoll when you can. There are quite a few members here who love them (including me--I actually used it today and it was a refreshing change to what I've been using, even though what I use now is much more powerful).

If you think about it, if you do spend that $90, that's the largest expenditure that you'll have for a while. Like I said, I didn't expect to but I quit within 24 hours. So no smokes purchased saved me $120 that month, and the 2 10mL bottles I bought lasted about 3 weeks (you go thru juice much slower with the eRoll). So the next month I could have only spent about $20 on juice and already broken even. I got into buying lots of juice though.

I have no idea what to suggest for juices--that's totally trial and error. I was a Camel Filter smoker so have no frame of reference for your VS. Going to your vape store next week will be perfect--find a couple of juices that you like and they may even have you try out a device.

You've just started on an exciting, sometimes frustrating new lifestyle. I think you'll find (as if you haven't already) that the people here are incredibly generous with advice and help.

 

[AndriaD]

If i had my choice the op would be buying a vv3 with kwx5 tank or a kanger esmart (for the quality) and greymatter ejuice from mistereliquid, but you know what.... She dont want that... So ok lets look at other options until there is something that SHE feels good about buying, unless you would like to pif and buy her something, lighten up.

SHE IS LOOKING FOR A GOOD CIGALIKE
Sounds like op doesnt want to fiddle with juices and tanks or clearos.
Not yet atleast

I think the "not yet" is the real key; I don't object to fiddling, filling, etc, but I'm really ignorant of the entire e-cig nomenclature; much of what I'm reading in this thread, I have to look up just to understand what's being said, advised, suggested. My main feeling right off the top of my head is that ok, I hear what everyone is saying that I won't be able to DUPLICATE a real burning cigarette, but I want something that a) FEELS similar, slim and light like a cigarette (good tip about those squishy tips, BTW), b) tastes at least sufficiently similar that I don't wrinkle my nose and go UGHHH!! the minute I taste it -- like with the Blu -- I couldn't get that sweet pipesmoke taste out of my mouth for the rest of the night, it's so gross. I ended up breaking my New Year's diet that night by eating a bunch of chocolate just so I could taste something sweet that I actually LIKE.

Since learning more about the difference in technique, I tried out my Njoy again, and yeah, it really is very close to what I'm looking for, but I strongly suspect they used eucalyptus for the throat-hit effect, because with a full, deep drag, it gives a slightly cool feeling in the sinuses, *slightly* similar to menthol, and I really dislike that. Never been a huge fan of the taste of eucalyptus, in any context.

I like that suggestion from Alisa1970 because the eRoll things appear to be almost exactly the same size as a real cigarette, and other things about it seem really good too -- being able to add my own liquid of whatever kind I decide on, the "open architecture" of being able to disassemble and replace whatever separate parts might need replacing -- hey, it worked out great for the PC! -- except the cost of the starter kit is a little high for right now, so I believe I will follow up your suggestion of the mini-flings in the meantime, till I can afford the eRoll starter kit.

I can't even imagine spending $2000 on my "smoking" habit; my non-smoking husband would probably divorce me. He tolerates my smoking because, hey, I came that way, but he gets so choked up from my smoke when we're driving around, he totally supports my newfound obsession with making the switch to e-cigs -- but not $2000 worth. The diamond ring he FINALLY bought me, for our 20th anniversary (6 yrs ago) was less than $400! But hey, diamonds are forever, right? And I freaking EARNED it!

Thx!
Andria

 

[AndriaD]

You've just started on an exciting, sometimes frustrating new lifestyle. I think you'll find (as if you haven't already) that the people here are incredibly generous with advice and help.

You are absolutely right about that; this must be the loveliest online bunch on the internet! I design templates for Joomla! so I sometimes need to post something on their forum, and if you happen to be ignorant of something, beware, it's just snark, snark, snark -- so bad I rarely can force myself to post there; I've noticed also that in some Comment areas of different sites I peruse, the snark is alive and well there, too.

But you guys have restored my faith in human decency -- there actually ARE some real live human beings online, not just a bunch of know-it-all cynical snarky-snarks! HALLELUJAH!

So glad I wandered in here...
Andria

 

[AndriaD]

If you think about it, if you do spend that $90, that's the largest expenditure that you'll have for a while. Like I said, I didn't expect to but I quit within 24 hours. So no smokes purchased saved me $120 that month, and the 2 10mL bottles I bought lasted about 3 weeks (you go thru juice much slower with the eRoll). So the next month I could have only spent about $20 on juice and already broken even. I got into buying lots of juice though.

This is good news, though I had already suspected that once I could get going with it, it would actually turn out to be slightly less costly than the cigarettes -- maybe because the gov't hasn't [yet?] stuck out their [tax]hand for it. With that eRoll, then, 2 10mL bottles sounds like it would last me very well through a whole pay-period (half a month, rather than 2 wks, thanks to my husband's employer's goofy bookkeeping system). That's very useful info, for budgeting purposes.

One thing I wondered about; you said that with a strong nicotine, the taste is quite like real tobacco smoke; that might be a problem for me, since I currently smoke the ultra-lights; I had to switch to them from the VS lights because they were just causing me way too much coughing. I note that they have a "xtra light" concentration, but in light of your comments about the taste, I had thought that maybe the "light" instead of xtra light might work out alright for me?

Anyway.. that was kind of a side-track. What I really wanted to add was how much I enjoy your cat avatar -- it almost looks like it's made of smoke!

Thx!
Andria

 

[Ladiekali]

My husband is a nonsmoker too! But he is loving that im vapin. Says im a walking air freshner now lol.
Luckily for me he was deployed and we got extra pay. He said he looks at it like a hobby. I never spend money on myself. I dont drink. I dont have friends here, so no lunch dates with the girls or anything. And plus i dont smell like a ashtray!

I still smokemevery now and again.

I have never used the eroll myself, bit let me dig around and see if i can find some better prices for you.

Ex. My first vv3 was $70 found it somewhere else a week later for $25!
When you are new to this you can easily pay too much.

Also search this forum for the eroll and read what others have posted about it!

Ill do some digging around and ill post back.

 

[AndriaD]

Cool -- I don't drink either, quit 21 yrs ago -- and at the time, it was very hard, but child's play compared to cigarette withdrawal!

That would be great if there was some better price on the eRoll; I went over to the WhiteCloud site again and read the comments on their various non-menthols, and I have to say, it doesn't really sound promising; for both the Regular and the Apache, at least one person complained about sweetness, and to me, any sweetness AT ALL is enough to disqualify; several said the Regular tasted either indefinably sweet, or tasted like ginger ale (now, are they talking REAL ginger ale -- Canada Dry -- or that schweppes or vernors crap?); and several said the Apache tasted like pipe tobacco, which I take to mean sweet. I didn't even look at the Atlantic Cut comments, since the description of it mentioned several fruits, and fruits just don't belong in a cigarette! (or in salads, or iced tea, or beer!) Not that I drink beer anymore. Mainly I just wish fruit would mind its own business and stay out of everything else!

Thx!
Andria

 

[alisa1970]

Hi again Andria,

The best deals that people have found for the eRoll is at Rocky Mountain Vapor. The kit is $60, and if you use coupon code 20rocky you'll get 20% off. Free shipping, too.

You have everything you need for two complete "cigarettes", the charging case, charger, and 3 tanks. Go to your local B&M (vape shop) once you get it, and try some juices in the eRoll. The taste of liquids really does vary from one device to another.

JOYE eRoll Starter Kit - $60.00 : Rocky Mountain Vapor, The Mountain top of Electronic Cigarettes

I would recommend you getting a couple of tobaccos that you find acceptable, and do try a fruit or dessert juice as well. Most people discover that e-liquid can't replicate cigarettes all that well, and they usually will gravitate to flavors that are nothing like tobacco.

You might be surprised that vaping something fruity or that tastes like a cinnamon roll really is pleasant!

The base liquid that carries flavor usually will have a slightly sweet taste--unfortunately you'll not really be able to avoid it in most cases. You usually get used to it after a little while.

 

[AndriaD]

The best deals that people have found for the eRoll is at Rocky Mountain Vapor. The kit is $60, and if you use coupon code 20rocky you'll get 20% off. Free shipping, too.

You have everything you need for two complete "cigarettes", the charging case, charger, and 3 tanks. Go to your local B&M (vape shop) once you get it, and try some juices in the eRoll. The taste of liquids really does vary from one device to another.

JOYE eRoll Starter Kit - $60.00 : Rocky Mountain Vapor, The Mountain top of Electronic Cigarettes

I would recommend you getting a couple of tobaccos that you find acceptable, and do try a fruit or dessert juice as well. Most people discover that e-liquid can't replicate cigarettes all that well, and they usually will gravitate to flavors that are nothing like tobacco.

You might be surprised that vaping something fruity or that tastes like a cinnamon roll really is pleasant!

The base liquid that carries flavor usually will have a slightly sweet taste--unfortunately you'll not really be able to avoid it in most cases. You usually get used to it after a little while.

Well, that is awesome, but I wonder, do you know how long that coupon code will work? There's no way at all I can do this before payday, which is Friday, but getting something $60 for $48 is a huge savings that I'd really love to take advantage of.

The shop I'm planning to visit has a workshop thing on Thursday evenings, so I thought I might go by there on Thursday, and taste some of the varieties, see if I can find anything at all that's even remotely similar, or at least tolerable. Even if not, as I said, there are a lot of choices of stores around here (best part of being near a major city, really), and I really ought to learn as much about this as I can, being so new to all of it, but really motivated to try and get off cigarettes BEFORE lung cancer or emphysema -- my dad died of the first, and it was horrible; my mom fought with COPD for years before she finally was able to quit smoking, and that was pretty bad too. People say, well nicotine is still bad for your heart & etc, but hey, nobody gets out of here alive, and dropping dead of heart attack or stroke beats the HELL out of dying by inches with cancer or emphysema (COPD). And the fact is simply that I'm an addict to my core -- got off drugs, got off drink, but nicotine seems impossible for me. Just the thought of switching from cigarettes to vapor makes me a bit anxious, but it seems like my only shot.

I found a post here at ECF, from googling "virginia slims," in which someone said that a former VS smoker found the "Virginia" flavor from MyVaporStore to be quite tolerable. It appears that once you have the basic paraphernalia, the e-juices are fairly inexpensive, so I may give that one a try, once I can get the kit. I would love to query whoever wrote that post, but it appears that the thread is closed, and I'm not sure it's in this new member forum, to which, for the moment, I am still limited. I'm also wondering if My VaporStore's "Virginia" is the same as the JoyeTech "Virginia" flavor I found last night. I'll have to look it up and see if the price is as affordable as the JoyeTech version.

I'm sure non-smokers, and probably others too, probably scratch their heads over my stubborn loyalty to that taste, but I read something online that may help explain it: I think it was on Wikipedia, so large grain of salt probably needed, but from what I read, Virginia Slims has higher brand loyalty than every other brand COMBINED. Not sure of all the reasons that could explain that, but I'm pretty sure that taste is a large factor. Most people who've been long-time smokers who smoke VS have histories with VS that go back 20 or 30 or more years (past that, they're probably dead of lung cancer!).

What I can't figure out is why Philip Morris doesn't get on the e-cig bandwagon, since tobacco sales in the US has been a sinking ship for a long time now -- which is probably why they keep raising prices, trying to make up in unit price what they continue lacking in volume. They HAVE to know that they're going to continue losing market in the US, as more and more of us rats attempt to jump off this sinking deadly ship. Anyhow, I'm planning on visiting pmusa.com today to see if there's some way I can ask THEM that question. God knows they've got plenty of money for new ventures.

Thx!!
Andria

 

[espkh123]

All those disposables are junk IMHO.
You should head over to a B&M store near you.
Even if one is an hour away it is well worth it.
Think of it as going to the doctors! You are bettering your life and you may have to take a chunk of your day out for it.

At the B&M stores you can taste all their juices and gawk at APV's there.
Remember, what you smoked isnt always what you wanna vape since there is no combustion.

You can get a Kanger Evod Single Starter Set for 15 dollars, also juice is 5$ - 10ML usually, so 20 bucks and you are set to vape.

Feel free to add and PM me when you need help.
That is what I am here for.
Last month I knew nothing of vaping either, and now from being here and visiting B&M stores I understand everything but DIY Ejuice - but that is easy enough.

 

[espkh123]

OH if you want cig-a-likes.
Halo G6 are american made / assembled and are great.
They have some of the best tobacco flavors too.

 

[alisa1970]

Well, that is awesome, but I wonder, do you know how long that coupon code will work? There's no way at all I can do this before payday, which is Friday, but getting something $60 for $48 is a huge savings that I'd really love to take advantage of.

Yes, I actually did a "mock" order to see if that code was still good. It worked for me so it should work for you.

The shop I'm planning to visit has a workshop thing on Thursday evenings, so I thought I might go by there on Thursday, and taste some of the varieties, see if I can find anything at all that's even remotely similar, or at least tolerable. Even if not, as I said, there are a lot of choices of stores around here (best part of being near a major city, really), and I really ought to learn as much about this as I can, being so new to all of it, but really motivated to try and get off cigarettes BEFORE lung cancer or emphysema -- my dad died of the first, and it was horrible; my mom fought with COPD for years before she finally was able to quit smoking, and that was pretty bad too. People say, well nicotine is still bad for your heart & etc, but hey, nobody gets out of here alive, and dropping dead of heart attack or stroke beats the HELL out of dying by inches with cancer or emphysema (COPD). And the fact is simply that I'm an addict to my core -- got off drugs, got off drink, but nicotine seems impossible for me. Just the thought of switching from cigarettes to vapor makes me a bit anxious, but it seems like my only shot.

Yes, you'll be learning a TON from now on. You can go as far as you want, or be as happy as you are with your first device. Some people never stop using their cig-a-likes, others in a few short weeks go on to rebuilding coils and using mechanical mods. There's a huge world out there, it's fun to discover!

On the nicotine, it's true that it can cause heart problems for those with a propensity towards that, but the nice thing is that you can reduce your nicotine intake over time so that you eventually could go down to zero and still enjoy vaping for the act alone. It's all up to you! There are some studies showing that nicotine removed from cigarette smoke isn't really as addictive or harmful as has been claimed; there really aren't that many studies on nicotine without all the other components that come with cigarettes. But the FDA has cleared nicotine patches and gum for long term and therapeutic use, so there must be something to those claims.

I found a post here at ECF, from googling "virginia slims," in which someone said that a former VS smoker found the "Virginia" flavor from MyVaporStore to be quite tolerable. It appears that once you have the basic paraphernalia, the e-juices are fairly inexpensive, so I may give that one a try, once I can get the kit. I would love to query whoever wrote that post, but it appears that the thread is closed, and I'm not sure it's in this new member forum, to which, for the moment, I am still limited. I'm also wondering if My VaporStore's "Virginia" is the same as the JoyeTech "Virginia" flavor I found last night. I'll have to look it up and see if the price is as affordable as the JoyeTech version.

Most juices are not the same; some companies (usually B&M's) do rebrand premixed juices but for the most part they will be different mixes. There are a lot of tobaccos called "Virginia', since that's one particular type of tobacco available. I have had lots of Turkish juices, and all of them were different to a degree. Just go for taste, regardless of what it's called.

What I can't figure out is why Philip Morris doesn't get on the e-cig bandwagon, since tobacco sales in the US has been a sinking ship for a long time now -- which is probably why they keep raising prices, trying to make up in unit price what they continue lacking in volume. They HAVE to know that they're going to continue losing market in the US, as more and more of us rats attempt to jump off this sinking deadly ship. Anyhow, I'm planning on visiting pmusa.com today to see if there's some way I can ask THEM that question. God knows they've got plenty of money for new ventures.

I believe that they will be introducing one this year; but all of the ecigs that BT has come out with so far have been underwhelming.

Philip Morris to Tap E-Cigarette Market Next Year - WSJ.com

Good Luck to you!

 

[Ladiekali]

I agree with alisa..... Good advice.
I tried to find a good tobacco in the beginning... Juice mafia had some decent ones.
And i didnt want to try fruit definately not desert. But man banana nut bread vapes so good with coffee lol.
Alot of companies send free samples, turns out i love a pink lemonade... Now i cant drink any type of lemonade, it makes me gag.
So when looking at flavors keep your mind open.
Some decent cheaper vendors are mtbakervapor, highdesertvapes they are where i started because of the price.
The vape shop will be pretty pricey. Personally i wont pay $20 for 30ml, i have before and dont think its worth it,
But most vape shops have testers so you can try some flavors. Or all of them if you want.

Personally i think you would be better with a couple 350 and 650 mah batteries, but they are not skinny. They are light wieght and that would keep you from being limited on your tanks.

The biggest lesson i learned is that vaping is not smoking.
And if you try to replicate a cigarette you'll prolly be let down.

But good luck to you, i dont normally spend this much time in the new members area so im going to move on now.

 

[AndriaD]

Well, I've gone to MyVaporStore, and as I always do with anything online, I checked out the reviews. What bugs the hell out of me is that most folks don't say WHY they like or dislike a product; it's always crap like "it's GREAT!" or "it SUCKS!" but they never explain why they feel that way. Some do have some description, and any that say "tastes sweetened" or "mildly sweet tobacco", I know right off are not for me, but some of the others, they give no description whatever, just whether they or their husband or granny or pet hamster liked it. I wish the juice-stores online could have like a questionnaire for those who review -- "check if you thought it was sweet" "check if you thought it was bitter", etc. The ones that say "great tobacco taste" are the most frustrating, because there are so many varieties of tobacco -- marlboro (sweet), turkish (just weird, kinda dry), Cuban cigar tobacco, my favorite Virginia Slims, etc. The advertising for Blu says something similar: "great tobacco taste!" but it tastes like someone just filled a pipe with cherry tobacco or borkum riff or something equally sweet. Just awful.

Here's a weird thing: when I sniff an UNLIT virginia slims (which my husband finds completely weird, sniffing an unlit cigarette), it smells quite sweet, though with a tart, sharp kind of edge. But when you actually smoke it, there's no sweetness at all. I just can't figure it out, how to quantify and accurately describe the taste I like.

Thx,
Andria

 

[AndriaD]

But good luck to you, i dont normally spend this much time in the new members area so im going to move on now.

Hopefully they'll let me out of the playpen soon, and I can start to check out other forums. Really appreciate all the tips!!!!

Thx!
Andria

 

[alisa1970]

Hopefully they'll let me out of the playpen soon, and I can start to check out other forums. Really appreciate all the tips!!!!

Thx!
Andria

You should be able to by now, you only need 5 posts to get out of the New Members forum. You also now have enough to create your signature at the bottom of your profile. If not, contact the forum admins to see what's up.