Still really confused about cartomizers...

[SomeTool]

So I bought an eGo about a month ago and haven't had an analog since (yay!) but I've only used the standard atomizer/cartridge setup I received in my kit since. Over the last few weeks I've read countless posts from people saying how great cartomizers are so I ordered some but I can't figure out how to use them.

I bought some 510 cartos that have a cap on the end which when I remove it and look inside I see two really small holes. I tried to put juice in those holes by just dripping it into there from the bottle but it wouldn't go in. I read about using a syringe to inject the juice in there so I ordered some syringes but they are too large diameter to fit in the holes. I tried diabetic injection syringes which are small enough to fit in those holes but the small syringes wouldn't suck up the juice from the bottle. After all this I ordered some large eGo cartomizers which are much larger and have holes large enough to fit the syringes I bought but when I try to fill them the juice goes in but runs out the end where the carto would attach to the battery.

What am I missing?

 

[Dawn L.]

On the 510 carto, the first one you talked about, you can take that second piece out, too, with a paperclip, takes a little work but it will come out, then you'll see a skinny tube, that's where you have to inject the juice. Inject enough to fill that tube (which isn't much), wait for it to go down a little, then inject some more. They are a pain in the .... and I hate them. I'm not sure about the second cartos you're talking of as I have never used them. Deback told me litecigusa.com has Boge 510 cartos (which will work with your eGO) that have soft plugs. This is the type of carto I have more experience with so I've ordered some. These cartos have a rubbery cap on the mouth end, you pop that out with a paperclip, then the whole thing is open, so you can just drip your juice in and not worry about any syringes. Don't drip right down the center, stay to the sides as much as possible. I'm not real sure how many drops a new one will take, I'd assume 15 to 20, then you can top it off as necessary. For me, those are the easiest cartos to fill, refill, and top off.

 

[TL1000RSquid]

510's you got are either Joyes or CE2's the CE2's would of had a plastic needle tip in the package but no syringe, so sounds like you got Joye's I think the condom method works on Joyes but I'll let someone who uses them confirm that. For using needles I always use the type with the removable needle, take the needle off to fill the syringe, some juice especially VG based is to thick for needles over 20 gauge.

The Ego mega carto's you need to put the juice in real slow and some will still leak out when filling it sit on top of the juice bottle and the leaks will just go back in your juice bottle. I've had poor results with the mega's I prefer 510 carto's.

 

[5cardstud]

My bad I thought you had ego cartos. Here's the one you want.

 

[vivictus]

you have the Joye 510 carto's, the first ones I got. they are a pain in the ..... You can either use the condom method but it will only suck up about half the juice it's capable of holding, or you can use a syringe. Remove the mouth cap, and then remove the second cap inside there. then you should see a plug in the center. Take a tiny screwdriver and poke a hold through that, and then fill it with a syringe through that hole. A fresh carto will hold a tad over 1ml, but once it's been used it will refill a max of about 0.9ml each time, give or take a tenth. I would recommend holding the carto, battery end down, over the bottle of juice you are using, so if any does leak through, it just goes back into the bottle. Then blow it out into the bottle to get rid of any possible excess overflow, and you are good to go.

From now on, I suggest the Boge 510 carto's. Litecigusa.com has them for $8 and they are WAY better with refilling and cleaning then the Joye ones. Hope this helps.

 

[SharonW]

you have the Joye 510 carto's, the first ones I got. they are a pain in the ..... You can either use the condom method but it will only suck up about half the juice it's capable of holding, or you can use a syringe. Remove the mouth cap, and then remove the second cap inside there. then you should see a plug in the center. Take a tiny screwdriver and poke a hold through that, and then fill it with a syringe through that hole. A fresh carto will hold a tad over 1ml, but once it's been used it will refill a max of about 0.9ml each time, give or take a tenth. I would recommend holding the carto, battery end down, over the bottle of juice you are using, so if any does leak through, it just goes back into the bottle. Then blow it out into the bottle to get rid of any possible excess overflow, and you are good to go.

From now on, I suggest the Boge 510 carto's. Litecigusa.com has them for $8 and they are WAY better with refilling and cleaning then the Joye ones. Hope this helps.

Couldn't help, but check out this thread given my last thread on carts/cartos. Uh, it seems everyone neglected to tell me about this particular pain in the ... for refilling. hehe Anyway, the Boge 510's sound right, but two people including you in this thread gave out an improper website address. It's not dot com, but dot net. I found the product you're mentioning (good to know given I'm ordering a 510, i.e. Sidesho) and they specifically mention its easy refillable nature as you've both mentioned.

510 BOGE SOFT CAP Blank Cartomizers

 

[Dawn L.]

Sharon, you're right, those are the ones I ordered, haven't tried them yet but they've gotta be better than the ones I have! And you're right about the website, its almost second nature now to put dot com so I forget that litecig is dot net. Anyway, those are the ones I've been told to try so hopefully they work out for all of us! Also litecig has $2 shipping, which is good for me. I hate to pay $5-$8 to ship something so small!

 

[Goldenkobold]

I have all the carto's except those ego mega ones,
I think the boge are 100 times easier to fill..obviously you pop the top and drip in but the one with the center hole does hold more juice and seems to last a bit longer...I am use to syringes as I medicate my dogs at home and was once in a profession that utilized them, however it took some work to get my 100% VG juices into the syringe needing cartomizers...after i worked out my technique I can do it in under a minute now. I kind of like the longer longer ones that need a syringe because they stick out further past the cone but on the short normal 510 batteries they both work fine.

Though I did drip into the two small holes on the second plastic part the first time I used one and that made a huge mess

 

[TL1000RSquid]

Couldn't help, but check out this thread given my last thread on carts/cartos. Uh, it seems everyone neglected to tell me about this particular pain in the ... for refilling. hehe Anyway, the Boge 510's sound right, but two people including you in this thread gave out an improper website address. It's not dot com, but dot net. I found the product you're mentioning (good to know given I'm ordering a 510, i.e. Sidesho) and they specifically mention its easy refillable nature as you've both mentioned.

510 BOGE SOFT CAP Blank Cartomizers

Boges you just drip inside after popping off the rubber cap, to my knowledge only 3 cartomizer types need a syringe the Joye branded 510's, the Joye Mega Ego's, and the Royal Smoker CE2's. All other brands can be easily filled just by dripping inside them as long as they are soft cap's, ones that say hard plastic caps you have to either use the condom method, pry off the caps, or stick a syringe through the little mouth hole.

 

[SharonW]

Boges you just drip inside after popping off the rubber cap, to my knowledge only 3 cartomizer types need a syringe the Joye branded 510's, the Joye Mega Ego's, and the Royal Smoker CE2's. All other brands can be easily filled just by dripping inside them as long as they are soft cap's, ones that say hard plastic caps you have to either use the condom method, pry off the caps, or stick a syringe through the little mouth hole.

Good to know because I was turned off right from the get-go when I read this thread about using a freakin' syringe. I don't even want to know what the "condom" method is.

 

[TL1000RSquid]

Good to know because I was turned off right from the get-go when I read this thread about using a freakin' syringe. I don't even want to know what the "condom" method is.

LOL if you look at your link you posted to the Boge carto's you'll see all but one of them have little rubber protective cones on them they've been nicknamed condoms, the condom method is putting your juice in one and slowly inserting the carto's threaded end into one it forces the juice inside the carto.

 

[texastumbleweed]

i am STILL trying to figure out what i am doing wrong with filling mega eGo cartomizers. i pull the two plastic parts out of the mouthpiece, take a syringe, and inject ejuice into both side holes/ports, but it seems all of it just comes out of hte battery end. cant do condom method cuz the plugs are too small. so confused. i bought 10 from litecigusa and would love to successfully learn how to fill them.

 

[TL1000RSquid]

You inject the juice into the center hole on the mega ego carto..

 

[SharonW]

You inject the juice into the center hole on the mega ego carto..

And where do you drop the juice on the BOGE 510's? Also, since the concept on these seems to be disposable. How long do the refillables work and can one change the filler? I'm really trying to juggle the concepts of less fuss with cartos versus carts. It seems that ideally the prefilled cartos would be great as I could see buying no more than 2 packages of 5 a week and that's only $16. However, the two places I've seen offering the prefills that would work with a 510 offer just the USA or menthol or just unknown tobacco. Any places that specialize in prefilled, soft cap 510 cartos in a variety of flavors?

 

[vivictus]

If you pop the cap off a Boge 510 you will just see where to fill. It's open and you just drip juice into it. It's WAY easier than using the Joye 510 carto's with a syringe. As for changing the filler in a carto... It's possible, but not convenient in any way and you still have a risk of ruining it, as well as your battery. There's a video somewhere of someone doing this that was posted recently, but I am too tired right now to find it. the point of carto's is that they can be filled several times over before they are thrown away, however, they can be cleaned and reused many times too! So, while you may think a carto works for 4-5 fills and then becomes too hard to take a draw, you can clean them out and then fill them again. Usually you want 10-15 carto's on hand to cycle through, and while you have used each one 4-6 times each, you begin to clean the others out. Some suggest boiling them, while others suggest using 91%+ alcohol (or cheap vodka), and others will just say to use water. Ultimately it depends on your preference. Boiling will reduce your filler and thus reduce the amount of juice your cartos can hold, but if it extends their life, it may be worth it instead of just throwing them away and ordering more of them. Also, boiling will only work with metal cartos! When I was first told to boil my cartos, I had the Joye 51- ones which are plastic so I knew there had to be something wrong with that advice. If you have plastic cartos then you have no option other than to use alcohol and/or water.

 

[Springbird]

If you go to YouTube and search "filling a "whatever kind you have" cartomizer", there is a video that shows how.

YouTube - refilling cartomizers

I go to YouTube and search for videos for all my new e-cig stuff.

 

[TL1000RSquid]

And where do you drop the juice on the BOGE 510's? Also, since the concept on these seems to be disposable. How long do the refillables work and can one change the filler? I'm really trying to juggle the concepts of less fuss with cartos versus carts. It seems that ideally the prefilled cartos would be great as I could see buying no more than 2 packages of 5 a week and that's only $16. However, the two places I've seen offering the prefills that would work with a 510 offer just the USA or menthol or just unknown tobacco. Any places that specialize in prefilled, soft cap 510 cartos in a variety of flavors?

Boges you just put the drops onto the soft filler material that you'll see when the tops off. The filler material can be replace, blue foam fish filter material is a popular replacement. You can usually get a few weeks out of carto's, I have quite a few in my current rotation that are over a month old now and have seen pretty moderate use. Prefill flavors are always limited and usually taste pretty bad.

 

[brian5470]

They genuine Joye 510 cartos do not have to be filled with a syringe. I have found that they fill really easy just by flipping them over and dripping drops into the hole on the threaded end. On initial fill you drop about 20 drops in after that about 15 or 16. These things are great they work really well.

 

[deback]

You can't replace the filler inside the Boge 510 soft cap, KR808D-1, and 4081 cartomizers. I believe the same is true with the SLB 510 cartomizers, but I haven't bought those yet. There are wires going from the atomizer by the threaded end up to the end of the filler near the mouth end. Taking the filler out will always break the wire that's actually a loop going up through the center hole and then goes down through the rolled filler.

I've been refilling Boge 510 and KR808D-1 cartos for the last four to six weeks. I don't boil them or soak them in boiling hot water. This ruins the filler (shrinks it by at least 33%) and degrades future performance.

I'm no longer cleaning them very often (using the method described in one of my blogs, accessible over at the left under my avatar). I just refilled the last 11 of the 15 that I cleaned/flushed/dried about two weeks ago. Four of those were unvapable due to being clogged or just dead. One was dead, three were clogged. This happens after three to four weeks with some Boge 510 cartos and can't be avoided. Took 15 minutes to fill all 11 (with 29 drops in each), wiped the threaded ends, did a test vape on each carto, labeled them as being cleaned on 11/01, and put the two condoms on to keep air out.

Cleaning cartos was just an experiment for me during the first two months of vaping. I don't think it's worth spending the time cleaning them, when I can just buy a box of 5 cartos for $7.95 that are clean, new, and produce better flavor and vapor than those cartos that have been refilled more than 30 times. I'll probably start discarding them (after about 25 to 30 refills) and start rotating 15 brand new cartos about every four weeks.

Bottom line: When a carto starts seeming clogged and doesn't produce vapor or is hard to draw on (and when I've blown out any excess juice), I'm tossing it!

 

[deback]

I bought prefilled Boge 510 hard caps the first time I ordered from litecigusa.net. I didn't like the flavor (due to the following sentence), and I STILL had to add about 25 drops of liquid into each carto before I vaped them the first time. They were way too dry when I opened each one. It took a while for the old flavor that was still in the filter to be gone, so I haven't ordered any prefilled cartos since and never will.

Vapor4life.com has a lot of prefilled flavors, but I've never ordered from that company. Vapor4life.com is nicely organized, so you can find what you're looking for in cartomizers, but I have NO idea about the quality of their products. Just wanted to mention this, since you asked...