Stinky New Flavors :(

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Sooooo, I am pretty bummed right now. I just received a wizard labs order of about 25 flavors, And I am not too happy.

You really have to wonder what these companies think when these products are finished, and the companies that re-bottle these flavors into smaller sizes for sale (i.e. wizard labs). Do they not have noses?!?

Are these flavors suppose to smell like this:

TFA Sweet cream - puke (literally smells like vomit)

TFA Caramel cappuccino - burnt tires

TFA Bubblegum (regular) - pepper

CAP - Peanut Butter - funky burnt smell / slight pb smell

CAP Hazelnut- funky burnt smell / slight hazelnut scent

TFA Grape Candy - stinky grape socks

TFA French vanilla (Regular) - overwhelming perfume / chemical smell

I am pretty tempted right now to just throw all of these out. I could not even imagine what these will taste like, if they smell this awful!

Just a heads up if anyone is ordering these flavors, please reconsider going with another company. I can't imagine how any of these could actually taste like their names.

Or is this really how they're really supposed to smell fresh from the bottles?!
 

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Concentrates like those are so strong your senses can't taste or smell them properly before they get diluted properly. Hence you use to much they go flat, you use to little they might taste off or like nothing. Then mix them up at the optimal percentage and you become mind blown over how good they are.
 

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Concentrates like those are so strong your senses can't taste or smell them properly before they get diluted properly. Hence you use to much they go flat, you use to little they might taste off or like nothing. Then mix them up at the optimal percentage and you become mind blown over how good they are.

Thanks for your comment, much appreciated.
 
So, you would say to give them a go anyways? Thank you for your help.

Heck yeah. Why waste the time, effort, and resources you expended getting these flavorings without at least trying them? Don't be too put off by the smell of the straight concentrates; they will undergo some serious transformations once they are in your mixes. Start off with some single flavor mixes to get an idea what you are really working with.
 

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Heck yeah. Why waste the time, effort, and resources you expended getting these flavorings without at least trying them? Don't be too put off by the smell of the straight concentrates; they will undergo some serious transformations once they are in your mixes. Start off with some single flavor mixes to get an idea what you are really working with.

Awesome, thank you for the comment, yeah I just read somewhere that Capellas Cappucino percentage isn't even listed, 1-2 drops per 10 ml. Wow, I am used to flavors between 10-20% range. I guess I will have to try and figure out some sort of easy method to testing these, and with the steeping times, this could be very tricky. This is my 2nd batch of diy, and now I have around 50 flavors or so, over 100 10ml bottles gone through, and only really have a few recipes that worked for me. My adv is plain tfa cantaloupe at 15%, so yeah lol.
 

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What exactly you're worried about ? ;)

Ever took a ( very small ! ) swig or whiff of post-mix syrups ?

Concentrates are meant to be diluted...

Fruit juices ( especially tropical ones ) are concentrated by extracting the water. Cuts down on shipping costs. The juices are then reconstituted at the receiving end by adding the same amount of water to the concentrate. The concentrates : sticky, sometimes ghastly smelling goo, that bears little resemblance to the fruits.

Mix first - complain - or enjoy - later :)
 
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Sooooo, I am pretty bummed right now. I just received a wizard labs order of about 25 flavors, And I am not too happy.

You really have to wonder what these companies think when these products are finished, and the companies that re-bottle these flavors into smaller sizes for sale (i.e. wizard labs). Do they not have noses?!?

Are these flavors suppose to smell like this:

TFA Sweet cream - puke (literally smells like vomit)

TFA Caramel cappuccino - burnt tires

TFA Bubblegum (regular) - pepper

CAP - Peanut Butter - funky burnt smell / slight pb smell

CAP Hazelnut- funky burnt smell / slight hazelnut scent

TFA Grape Candy - stinky grape socks

TFA French vanilla (Regular) - overwhelming perfume / chemical smell

I am pretty tempted right now to just throw all of these out. I could not even imagine what these will taste like, if they smell this awful!

Just a heads up if anyone is ordering these flavors, please reconsider going with another company. I can't imagine how any of these could actually taste like their names.

Or is this really how they're really supposed to smell fresh from the bottles?!

Is there anything you did like. I've used all of those at one time or another. You need to use the right percentages and adjust as nessessary. So I would advise not to toss them until you've got some experience under your belt. It's all trial and error but the flavors do work when mixed properly.
 

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TFA Sweet cream - puke (literally smells like vomit)-It smells pretty bad,but is actually really good when used in recipes.

TFA Caramel cappuccino - burnt tires -Another that smells bad,but tastes really good.Like you mentioned,use very little,i would start off with 1 drop per 10ml and work from there.

Thanks, yeah I am going to start with 1 drop on that flavor, now I am going to just have to figure out how to adjust the percentages to the other recipes that are off. Do you suggest making single flavors at the recommended percentages that are on the forums, and then making recipes? Or do you guys just do each recipe individually? That's the part I'm stuck on now.
 

BigCap

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Skatole - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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What exactly you're worried about ? ;)

Ever took a ( very small ! ) swig or whiff of post-mix syrups ?

Concentrates are meant to be diluted...

Fruit juices ( especially tropical ones ) are concentrated by extracting the water. Cuts down on shipping costs. The juices are then reconstituted at the receiving end by adding the same amount of water to the concentrate. The concentrates : sticky, sometimes ghastly smelling goo, that bears little resemblance to the fruits.

Mix first - complain - or enjoy - later :)

I understand, thank you, I was just concerned about the smell of them tasting like they smell. I didn't want to get my hopes high for a recipe, and then add a flavor, and ruin the whole thing with evil dirty grape socks :)
 

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Is there anything you did like. I've used all of those at one time or another. You need to use the right percentages and adjust as nessessary. So I would advise not to toss them until you've got some experience under your belt. It's all trial and error but the flavors do work when mixed properly.

I have tried a bunch of 2ml sample recipes. And I have a bunch of iclear 30's, but even after rinsing them out, and dry burning, I still get smell/flavors from the last recipe, so I can't really get a full flavor taste of what it actually tastes like.

I do have an RBA, but I only use that for 0 nic. I couldn't possibly lung hit more than 3 mg nic, so if I go the nic route in it, I would have to dilute everything down. And then probably wouldn't get any flavor.

Right now, I am just vaping single flavors, mainly tfa cantaloupe @ 15% most of the flavors are pretty good, I just need to find some good reliable recipes. I just have been striking out with most of my samples.

I still have a lot more to try and a lot more work to do, not giving up yet. I just can't afford a buck a ml for the premium juices.
 

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With any new flavors from any vendor, it's a good idea to make up a single flavor sample bottle to YOUR taste. Start at a very low percentage and up it slowly to whatever tastes good to you.

Once you have single flavors you like, try mixing the sample bottles by drops on an atomizer or RDA to see what combines to YOUR liking.

Of the flavors in your post, TFA Caramel cappuccino - burnt tires is the only one I've used. For ME, mixing at about 1/2 of one percent or less gives me a strong french roast coffee flavor with a touch of a dark or burnt caramel. I love it, because I enjoy drinking a strong french roast coffee with a touch of a dark or burnt caramel....:2cool:...mixes well with Kentucky Bourbon.
 

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Hmmm I never thought to try flavors that way. I just dove right in to my own recipes (which I failed miserably lol) and recipes that I found online. Live and learn. This gave me some hope, thanks so much, and that French roast burnt caramel sounds Delish!

I always just mix single flavors because it gives me much more flexibility in what I want to vape each day. Sometimes it may be a strong bourbon with a slight twist of lemon, another day a lemonade with a small shot of bourbon. With single flavors I can "mix up" either in one of my tanks, if it's a failure, you only lose a few mL. Also you can try weird combinations, (bourbon and waffle is good as a matter of fact)
 
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