Straight Lorann?

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Daze

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So I was messing around doing some dyi juices. I was using vg 70% and Loranns 30% and started feeling kind of strange. I'm not sure if the vg is giving me issues or really whats going on. Started with the cotton mouth feeling, then dry throat, then phlem build up and my heart was racing, got a little dizzy and just felt congested overall. This was after only about 20 puffs or so. I basically stopped for the night. I went to the bottle of Loranns and read it and noticed the ingredients were "artificial flavor and propylene glycol" pg for short. My intent was to use the vg after reading it gave people less issues if any, and the pg just seemed more of an issue overall.

Come to find out its in the flavors anyway. So I was curious has anybody just used the flavor 100% in the cart and skipped cutting it with anything? This is for zero nic.

Has anybody had all those issues with zero nicotine before or was I just having a bad day with it?
 

RenaissancePuffer

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Has anybody had all those issues with zero nicotine before or was I just having a bad day with it?

Give us a little more info. What brand VG? Was it USP? Also what flavor or Loranns?

Personally, I wouldn't suggest to vape pure Loranns, I think that would be a bit too strong and likely too thin.
 

Moonflame

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Lorann's Raspberry gave me huge headache. I mixed it 20% flavor, 40% PG and 40% Glycerin, which has been fine for the mixes I've used Bickford's flavoring for. I think it was either the artificial flavoring or artificial colors. I have vaped the Bickford's Liquids pure and they have been fine, the flavoring not the flavor oils, because they would be WAY too strong. The liquid is the flavor oils mixed with PG and some of the flavors need additional PG or glycerine to bring the flavor down some, but others aren't strong at all and are very good vaped right out of the bottle. I hope that made sense since I've been up for almost 24 hours :).
 

Mary Kay

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It's in those itsy bitsy bottles for a reason..it's concentrated! would you drink canned O.J. without adding the 3 and 1/2 cans of water? How about Campbell's soup right out of the can? Nope?
Same with Lorann's. A drop or 3 will do you! I can't imagine the headache! Sorry you feel bad. Now go add a ton of P.G. or V.G and feel better!
I came back to add, of the 5,000 or so active members, only a very small percentage of them react to P.G., it's in your toothpaste, ice cream and lots of other household things. If you never reacted to any of them, and I hope you haven't chances are fair you won't react to P.G. Just test a vape or two to be sure..it's probably in the carts that came with your new device.
Also, Welcome to ECF! :)
 
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Daze

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I ordered all the liquid from freshsmoking.com and it was apple flavor. I mixed the apple with tropical punch and dropped a menthol crystal in the bottle also to give it some zing. I cut it with a little patron gold. The vg is said to be usp from website but when the bottles came they just said vg spelled out on bottle hand written so there's no way for me to really tell. Im going to try some pg when next time I go out, going to stop a local cvs and see if they have it.
 
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