Although more people react to PG with dry mouth and harshness etc, there are some who dislike the feeling of VG or have a reaction to it. Are you using the distilled water in every batch, or just ones with high VG?
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I have just been putting the distilled into the thicker mixes with the VG.
I got my 100% VG nic juice today and made a few samples. I'm gonna give them a shot later tonight.
I got my 100% VG nic juice today and made a few samples. I'm gonna give them a shot later tonight.
So the ones with more VG are harsher for you, and you are only adding distilled water to those? Could it be the water that's the problem?
Well the new batches I made earlier today have no water.
They are so thick I can barely drip them out of the bottle.
But I am about to try one out in a few minutes.
They are so thick I can barely drip them out of the bottle.
But I am about to try one out in a few minutes.
So I just tried out a juice I mixed up earlier today.
100% VG @ 18mg nicotine. It's so thick I can hardly drip it out of the bottle.
STILL HARSH! How is this possible?
The only common denominator is the nic level and the vendor. But all the pre-mixed juices I buy (not my niv vendor) are 18mg as well and they are all fine. Actually the FSUSA sample I had was 50/50 PG/VG and it was PERFECT.
What am I missing here? I hope I can figure this out or else I will have a toolbox full of DIY supplies to swap out for pre-mixes
100% VG @ 18mg nicotine. It's so thick I can hardly drip it out of the bottle.
STILL HARSH! How is this possible?
The only common denominator is the nic level and the vendor. But all the pre-mixed juices I buy (not my niv vendor) are 18mg as well and they are all fine. Actually the FSUSA sample I had was 50/50 PG/VG and it was PERFECT.
What am I missing here? I hope I can figure this out or else I will have a toolbox full of DIY supplies to swap out for pre-mixes
fmmfl- you said 50/50 was perfect. Maybe you are moving towards the opposite direction with higher VG. Not sure but it is possible the 50/50 juice may be heavier on the PG if they used PG based flavors. why don't you try a small mix of .2ml of you 60mg/ml nic into .8 PG. This will give you about 12mg/ml and 1ml of base liquid. Vape without flavor and see how that feels. If it feels right add about 4 drops of a single flavor and see if that is better. It may work for you. Anyway whatever you try I hope you find your groove.
Thanks a lot for the advice. I will try that tomorrow. The 50/50 was a pre-mix I got from FSUSA, though.
Are you suggesting I try that base mix with my 100%VG nic juice or my 70/30 PG:VG?
I did just vape a few puffs of some straight PG that I have from the same vendor.
I get absolutely ZERO throat hit but I do taste the sweetness that I hear is from PG. It's also very thin. It actually feels smooth in my throat.
Am I the opposite of everyone else? That would be weird. It's either that or nic juice supplier is waaay off.
Are you suggesting I try that base mix with my 100%VG nic juice or my 70/30 PG:VG?
I did just vape a few puffs of some straight PG that I have from the same vendor.
I get absolutely ZERO throat hit but I do taste the sweetness that I hear is from PG. It's also very thin. It actually feels smooth in my throat.
Am I the opposite of everyone else? That would be weird. It's either that or nic juice supplier is waaay off.
Suggesting to use the 100% vg nic .2mls into .8mls of Plain USP PG. That will give you a nice 80pg/20vg and you will not waste too much if you don't like it. Everyone is different and I have found my sweet spot to be 80/20. For my base I use 6mls of 100mg/ml PG nic, 32 ml PG and 12 mls VG. This gives me a 50ml bottle of 12mg/ml plain juice. Then when I flavor up small 3ml batches with PG based flavors I end up right about 80/20 and between 10 - 11 mg/ml nic. Hope this helps
Hey Ski,
I just got done trying the 80PG/20VG ratio and it seems that you're onto something.
It's definitely MUCH better but I still feel a little harshness in my throat.
Actually after taking a few puffs it just seems very inconsistent. Do these mixes need to mesh very long without flavoring?
I just got done trying the 80PG/20VG ratio and it seems that you're onto something.
It's definitely MUCH better but I still feel a little harshness in my throat.
Actually after taking a few puffs it just seems very inconsistent. Do these mixes need to mesh very long without flavoring?
VG and PG take a while to mix together, particularly when colder. It could be that the PG in your other mixes were floating on top, which would probably end up very harsh, particularly with a 100% VG mix (if your flavorings are PG-based).
It helps to heat it and shake it, you can use a hot water bath or microwave for a very short time on very low power (or you can melt the bottle).
It helps to heat it and shake it, you can use a hot water bath or microwave for a very short time on very low power (or you can melt the bottle).
Thanks for the reply.
That might have been the problem all along. Off to make a few more batches. I will warm them and let them sit all night.
Who knows? Maybe this time tomorrow I will finally have my ratio figured out.
I'm so glad I have a nice, full 30ml bottle of Wyatt earp to vape on while I figure this out. It is such amazing juice.
That might have been the problem all along. Off to make a few more batches. I will warm them and let them sit all night.
Who knows? Maybe this time tomorrow I will finally have my ratio figured out.
I'm so glad I have a nice, full 30ml bottle of Wyatt earp to vape on while I figure this out. It is such amazing juice.
Maybe I missed it above...
Since you have already vaped high VG:
Did you say what happened if you vape the VG by itself? Just drip 2 drops into atty thats ready to be dripped. No mixing with anything else. Is it harsh?
P.S. You shouldn't have any harshness .....
Since you have already vaped high VG:
Did you say what happened if you vape the VG by itself? Just drip 2 drops into atty thats ready to be dripped. No mixing with anything else. Is it harsh?
P.S. You shouldn't have any harshness .....
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JUst curious, how are you measuring?
I've noticed that thick liquids tend to have bigger drips when dripping from a bottle. It's possible that you are adding more nic-juice than you realize.
I highly recommend picking up a pipette pump, lets you measure down to .01 mL accurately. One stop sells them, they have 2 mL and 10 mL versions, the 2 mL is good for making small batches.
I've noticed that thick liquids tend to have bigger drips when dripping from a bottle. It's possible that you are adding more nic-juice than you realize.
I highly recommend picking up a pipette pump, lets you measure down to .01 mL accurately. One stop sells them, they have 2 mL and 10 mL versions, the 2 mL is good for making small batches.
I buy my measuring supplies from One Stop DIY Shop. I use their Graduated Cylinder for THICK liquids. I find the really thick stuff is hard to measure even with the pipettes. It takes a long time to get the air bubbles out for accurate readings. I have this 100mg nic, 100% VG, it's like glue.
Yeah my 100% VG nicks definitely like glue. They drops from the VG are huge. Where would I get a pipette pump?
Personally, I find it's VG that is very harsh in taste, not PG. Plain VG-liquid is something I absolutely don't like. Mine are all around 70% PG and 30% VG, which is about the maximum of VG I like. (Without it, I think my liquids are too thin.)
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