Study says smokers who use e-cigs are 28% less likely to quit smoking than smokers who dont........

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What do you think of this huge new bombshell? I thought e-cigarettes were the most effective method for quitting smoking since it helped me quit. Turns out I was wrong. For most people the opposite is happening. All of you who were able to quit smoking by switching to e-cigarettes has been shown to be anecdotal evidence outside the norm. Studies done by the most prestigious medical organizations shows smokers who try e-cigarettes are 28 percent less likely to quit smoking than smokers who never touched an e-cigarette. On top of that other studies show e-cigarettes are not only ineffective as a quit smoking aid but a gateway to smoking. Teens who try e-cigarettes are 3 and a half times more likely to become smokers than teens who never tried an e-cigarette.

This isnt me saying this, its the news media that everyone else reads and trusts. Something has to be done. My mom is just like the sheep out there who believes every anti e-cig story and ignores all positive ones. When the media, the medical community, academia and government all team up against us, we cant win.



E-cigarettes WON'T help you quit

E-cigarettes: Teens who vape are more likely to smoke later, study says


I thought I heard I was off the smokes Four Years this Spring. Must have been anecdotal.
 

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Everybody in government and science and public healt knows that ecigs don't help you stop smoking. They are the smart people, right? I think it works like this. Ecigs won't help smart people stop smoking because they know it won't work. Ecigs do work for people dumb enough to believe they work. This means there are advantages to being dumb.
 

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Is there some Machine where you pour Grant Money into One End, and then get Negative e-Cigarette Studies spitting out the Other End?
I read recently where someone asked for a grant to figure out how to turn crap back into food! No kidding!

Shrimp on treadmills, the mating habits of ducks and did you you know if you turn a mouse on its back and tap its stomach with a ball point pen it will fart? All this vast knowledge! Research grants via the Government!
 
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I mean... the day I picked up my box was the last day I had a cigarette, so. Idk what to make of this propaganda..
Follow the money...
Step one: Create crisis
Step two: Assign blame
Step three: Pile on guilt
Step four: Assess reparations (e.g. taxes, fees, etc.)
 

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Follow the money...
Step one: Create crisis
Step two: Assign blame
Step three: Pile on guilt
Step four: Assess reparations (e.g. taxes, fees, etc.)

You forgot about the Last Step.

Step Five: Once Regulations, Taxes and Profits are where you want them, Reverse Position and come out and say that e-Cigarettes are Beneficial. So as to Maximize Taxes/Profits.
 

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Say, you're not a politician are you ;)

No. No I'm Not. LOL

But I can think of what I would do if I was in their Shoes. And had an Insatiable Greed for More and More (and More!) Taxes.

It also helps to Look at what is Going On in places like the UK. Where they are ahead of us in the Regulatory Cycle.
 

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@ 1.56 He says all though the high end brands may be safer there are a lot of cheep knock offs ?
What?? Cheep knock off liquid? He keeps saying that there is not enough research, we know thats not true. There have been plenty of studies done, that show vaping is much safer than smoking. @ 2.46 he says risks of getting addicted to nicotine! Is he serious? The whole video is a Joke!
I would be embarrassed to go on camera spouting off such inaccuracies :(
 

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@ 1.56 He says all though the high end brands may be safer there are a lot of cheep knock offs ?
What?? Cheep knock off liquid? He keeps saying that there is not enough research, we know thats not true. There have been plenty of studies done, that show vaping is much safer than smoking. @ 2.46 he says risks of getting addicted to nicotine! Is he serious? The whole video is a Joke!
I would be embarrassed to go on camera spouting off such inaccuracies :(
You and I would be embarrassed...he's a political mouth piece, knows there's no accountability from anyone, and he's OK with being a dork.
 
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No. No I'm Not. LOL

But I can think of what I would do if I was in their Shoes. And had an Insatiable Greed for More and More (and More!) Taxes.

It also helps to Look at what is Going On in places like the UK. Where they are ahead of us in the Regulatory Cycle.
The Iron Lady said it best...'The problem with Socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money'...or words to that effect....

The Beatles knew it too:

Should five per cent appear too small
Be thankful I don't take it all
'Cause I'm the taxman, yeah I'm the taxman

If you drive a car, I'll tax the street,
If you try to sit, I'll tax your seat.
If you get too cold I'll tax the heat,
If you take a walk, I'll tax your feet.
 

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While taxes would be stupid. I would almost prefer paying a tax over having the juice i like snuffed out. Or not being able to buy a new mod and just being stuck with my NEBOX (which i love, but... come on, you have to upgrade lol). Idk man. This fda crap cant get here soon enough. But it can at the same time..
That's how it starts...incrementalism...next comes licensing and registration...then MOD safes to keep the children from getting their hands on it...and flavorless vapes because only children like things that taste like candy....
 

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That's how it starts...incrementalism...next comes licensing and registration...then MOD safes to keep the children from getting their hands on it...and flavorless vapes because only children like things that taste like candy....
They could require the green Mr. Yuk Stickers to be placed on all Juices lol. Sorry had a flashback of grade school going home and putting those stickers on everything I kn ew not to ingest.
 
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