Super T VV??

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bssage

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I am a simple dude with little knowledge on how electronics work.

But I have been jonesing for a long time to see a super T VV model. I know one of your selling points has been all mechanical. But it seem to me (electronic simpleton) that VV could also be achieved by a physical means. I.E. Clicking to a larger/smaller contact point, Thicker/thinner wire. I would buy in a heartbeat.

Are my assumptions incorrect??
 

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I've been interested in that new Kick VV module. It'd be nice to make a nice enclosure for it to go in! I suppose one could make a mechanical means, but it seems to be with electronics being so consistent in their output coupled with their low relative cost, it would be the way to go.
 

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I've been interested in that new Kick VV module. It'd be nice to make a nice enclosure for it to go in! I suppose one could make a mechanical means, but it seems to be with electronics being so consistent in their output coupled with their low relative cost, it would be the way to go.


Are you thinking of an entirely new model, or something modular, that could be screwed together between the battery tube and the top or bottom cap?
 

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It will be able to be used in the current 18650 precise I believe, you will just use an 18490 Batt instead of the 18650 This "Kick" is going to kick some Azz in pretty much all tube mods I think, and I'm even thinking in juice fed Box Mods that run an 18650 too. To be able to feed juice now and have these kind of electronics giving a regulated vape consistently will change the game some, as well as being able to adjust the Wattage. The one thing is some PV's may have to be built a bit bigger now to accept this "Kick" and to be able to run say an 18650. One cool thought would be to build this "Kick" into the top or bottom cap of a tube type Mod so it was able to be recessed in the cap. I heard they where going to be selling it 2 ways, as a single unit and as a modders unit. I think this really opens up the positive things that can happen now for all modders and manufactures making any type of Mod at all because they will all be able to have Darwin type electronics which are by far the best on the market currently. I saw one at VaporCon and it is the size of about a stack of 4-5 pennies. Still the best precise machinist will shine as always :)
 
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I've been interested in that new Kick VV module. It'd be nice to make a nice enclosure for it to go in! I suppose one could make a mechanical means, but it seems to be with electronics being so consistent in their output coupled with their low relative cost, it would be the way to go.

As usual can't find a thing about this Kick VV thing on ECF search.... Would like to read all about this Kick thingie, got a link?
 

Roi

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I don't have a link. But... I'm one of the lucky b@s^@r)s that's in line to recieve a few engineering samples in a week or so.

The "Kick" a new product that's coming from Evolv (The maker of the Darwin) that IMHO is going to cause a lot of excitement. In a nutshell, it is a small electronic power regulator that is appx. 15mm long and 18mm in diameter. If you have a simple battery mod like the PrecisePlus 18650 that uses a 18650 battery, you substitute the 18650 with a 18490 or 18500 battery and the the "Kick". The pair is then the same diameter and length of the original 18650 battery.

What you now have is a power regulated PrecisePlus 18650 that has Evolv(ed) and now has the "guts" of the power regulated Darwin.

The "Kick" is planned to be adjustable to whatever power (watts) level you like between 5 and 10 watts which is a wide enough range for any sane vaper.

My main vape, right now, is a Darwin and, in my opinion, it's the state of the art for regulated mods. I normally vape at around 8watts and no matter what atty I use at the moment be it 2ohms or 4ohms the temperature and vapor production remains the same. (Or so close that I can't tell much difference.)

It's hard to explain to non-electronic geek types but, the Evolv power regulation is far more than simple voltage regulation. (Where the user sets the voltage and the PV holds that voltage constant regardless of the atty ohms.) With power regulation, the user picks a wattage or "heat" level they prefer and the regulator automatically adjusts the voltage to maintain a more constant heat level even when things change, like switching to a different atomizer.

The "Kick" will also provide short circuit protection and also help you prevent battery damage by shutting down before over-discharging your battery. In fact, it answers all the problems of using un-protected batteries in your mod. I think it will play just fine with the protected batts and you will have redundant protection if you use them.

To sum it up, I love my Darwin (ugly as it is) and so far, no pretty mod has ever been able to get me to switch yet. Now, I think it's all about to change. I am about to have one of the nicest battery mods ever produced and still have all the good things that I simply won't give up in my Darwin.

Owning a Precise product is like going to the circus but having the innards of a Darwin in a Precise is like riding there on your own elephant. I can hardly wait. And... For bssage (who started this thread) I think this is exactly what you've been hoping for and you'd better get your order in for your Precise now. They have the nasty habit of being sold out right when you want to buy.
 
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Roi

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Here, are a couple of small pictures I copied from another thread on this forum. These are prototypes of the "Kick" only and will probably look a bit different when it's in the final production stage.

Prototype 2.jpgPrototype 1.jpg
 

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The trick for the master will be machining an end cap that has a turning adjustable ring to vari the Wattage on the precise if David decides to make one.. this will surely be an amazing PV if it gets done !

So it would have a numbered dial (in watts) for reference, and the module would automatically adjust for any atty/carto resistance in use, to produce that level of "heat"? Yeah, that really would be the best of both worlds.
 

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+1 on that Prof!!!

I understand what you you're both saying......it goes against the Super-T KISS principle. On the other hand, it could potentially broaden the appeal of David's products, and if the module was housed in a separate, add-on cap, you could have your cake and eat it too.
 

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Prof & Vapn, you guys dont know what your missing, I understand David is a fine machinist and builds a super mod, but with electronics like this you put on any ohm Atty/Carto you want and these electronics sense and monitor this and then you can adjust the watts ( heat ) to the coil of your Atty/Carto and dial in the best taste of any juice and max performance as well. These electronics have changed the game all the way around now, an unregulated vape does not compare to dialing it in and getting the same exact vape every time you punch the button, just my own personal conclusion along with thousands of others, it's quite a nice vape and if you haven't tried variable wattage then you just dont know ! and it is different the VV, took me a while to break down and buy this PV because of the looks and handling of it, but if we had this in a precise it would be game OVER !
 
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