SuperAtty!!

[a2dcovert]

Sorry to hear about your super atty...all good things come to an end but at least they are cheap especially with PS bulk buys!

I had 2 510 attys die yesterday on me, one in my battery device, one in my 5v homemade pt both gave me 51 days of pure vaping pleasure. At this rate I'll go through 7 a year on each device and with an order of 25 on the way from PS I'll be set for awhile, as long as they last the same as the ones I got from Eastmall. I never clean my attys just blow them out when the draw get a little hard. I might try cleaning my dead atty's, one still gives vape but very little and the other doesn't even get hot let alone give off any vape.

I think the jury is still out on the best method of care for atomizers. Unfortunately I think that most atomizers will eventually die from carbon build-up on the coil. That's the information we need , is how to prevent the build-up of carbon. The juice clogs can be easily cleaned with an alcohol soak.

Kevin

 

[kgonepostl]

I think the jury is still out on the best method of care for atomizers. Unfortunately I think that most atomizers will eventually die from carbon build-up on the coil. That's the information we need , is how to prevent the build-up of carbon. The juice clogs can be easily cleaned with an alcohol soak.

Kevin

Or the essential principals of using..............all things
Wear and tear anyone?
Sorry, I wasn't mocking you.

 

[BrockJ]

I tried the 510's in my Prodigy @ High Voltage and then changed back to 3.7.
Both my Prodigy and the Protege create more then enough throat hit and vapor @ 3.7 for me.
I'll run the 901's @ whatever the resistor switch puts out on the Prodigy (5v) but I think it does just as good on standard voltage. That's just because I have the CR123's
I think if the juice recipe is right, higher voltage is no longer an issue.

I've yet to lose an atomizer from vaping. I've chopped a couple up to make MOD parts but so far I've not had one stop working.

I've been cycling 4 since June 16th. Anytime I'm changing flavors I take the old one off and throw it in a bottle of everclear for an unmeasured amount of time. Pull it out and run hot distilled water through it mainly to remove the taste from the flavoring.
I don't know if it helps or hurts but it's what I do.

I'm not really that worried about an FDA ban.
The BATF, CIA, DEA, President, Congress, State and Local police forces have been fighting the war on drugs for twenty years and they're still selling crack ....... at local elementary schools.

If there is a Ban, maybe we can get Chinese suppliers to pack juice and attys in the bales of ....... and ...... so they'll make it into the country with ease. Or perhaps get the Columbian Cartel to start making nicotine juice

 

[frankie1]

BrockJ: HA HA HA HA HA HA That is sooooooo true...sadly!

 

[a2dcovert]

Or the essential principals of using..............all things
Wear and tear anyone?
Sorry, I wasn't mocking you.

Yep, you're right. Attys are expendable just like batteries.

Agreed BrockJ, I hope that the parts are going to be available no matter what.

Kevin

 

[J_Data]

Hopefully Steve and Casey have a plan.

It wouldn't be to hard to offshore an operation like this while maintaining their physical presence in the USA. Other than the act of importing it into the USA they wouldn't be breaking any laws either and the liability of that could easily be mitigated. If they have a decent accountant they could set it up in a matter of a few days. No need to even keep them on payroll once its setup.

How do you think USA spammers and online casino owners do it? more to the point how do you think USA absinthe sellers managed to get absinthe into the country so long when it was technically illegal?

It is going to be very difficult to actually stop this stuff from coming into the country. They will make life difficult for the suppliers first, but with resolve and a little planning they can all survive. The ..... of it will be when they come after us lowly users and try to treat us like narcotics addicts.

My personal opinion is, even if the ban goes through, and they start attacking users, they will end up not enforcing the laws or they will suffer a media storm of laughter for the ridiculousness of imprisoning X amount of people for inhaling candy vapor laced with small amounts of nicotine.

 

[Tecratk]

I don't do any maintenance and I've been running two 801 attys for coming on a month now and they're just as good as they day I got them.. One is a Janty Classic atty and the other is a Totally Wicked 801 atty..

I just bought a 510 and a 901 atty from Eastmall and I've started vaping those with my Janty Stick and Mini Pipe (I love adapters).

I have a dozen or so 801 attys stockpiled and I plan on purchasing all future atomizers from bestecig.com. I've heard so many good things about them that I want to add some to my collection.

If I can keep 1 atty running for atleast a month though I think that's well worth what I'm paying. As far as upkeep though I've come to the conclusion that no maintenance is the best maintenance.

 

[a2dcovert]

This is my original post about my Prodigy and atomizer failures.

I have yet to discover how to keep my Prodigy from blowing up my 510 attys. The first 2 older attys I tried on it were fried on the first hit. Last night I lost the new atty that came with the Prodigy in only 6 days of use.

Since April I have been using the 510 and had only 1 atomizer die a mechanical death. I've had 4 die from being clogged with carbon. They still mechanically work they just no longer wick juice from the cart. I don't know what the solution is but I can't keep losing attys.

Kevin

Thought I would update my original post on this subject, since it's been almost a month now on my Prodigy. My atomizer problem appears to be not the fault of the Prodigy at all. After those first issues I had originally blamed the failures on the 5 volt Prodigy, but since those original problems I have had no further issues.

This past weekend I tried to revive some poorly performing atomizers. After trying them all on 3.7 volts and not being satisfied with the results I decided to try them at 5 volts. I said if they blow, then they blow. But to my surprise not a single one of the 5 old atomizers were damaged at 5 volts. All of these atomizers had 3.0 ohms resistance. So there went my original theory right out the window. It wasn't the higher voltage alone causing the atomizers to fail.

The only conclusion I can come up with is at 5 volts a weak or bad atomizer will fail quicker. I've even tried vaping at 6 volts and have had no issues other than a bad taste.

So in my experience so far it is important to check the resistance of your atomizers. The resistance should be normally around 2 to 3 ohms. This will give you an idea of the electrical health of the atomizer. It will not tell you that there is or isn't a dirty coil. An atomizer coil that is coated with carbon will still have good electrical resistnace.

There are 3 types of atomizer failure:

1. Electrical problems that can be detected with an ohm meter. Resistance higher than 2 to 4 ohms is not normal. This indicates something is breaking down either in the coil itself or the coil connections are going bad. Be sure that the multimeter you are using can be trusted to give fairly acurate numbers.

2. Coil coated with carbon. This is hard to correct due to the toughness of carbon. It is extremely difficult to get rid of carbon build-up. Some try dry burn, hydrogen peroxide burn and other different ways to clean this carbon off. This is the leading cause of atomizer failure.

3. Wicking problems due to juice clogs. This problem is usually easy to correct by soaking in alcohol or other "safe" solvents.

It is my theory that atomizers with a higher than normal resistance will fail at higher voltages. This is due to heat from the voltage drop accross the problem that is causing the resistance. Right now I can't prove this.

I hope this helps someone.

Kevin

 

[kgonepostl]

This is my original post about my Prodigy and atomizer failures.




Thought I would update my original post on this subject, since it's been almost a month now on my Prodigy. My atomizer problem appears to be not the fault of the Prodigy at all. After those first issues I had originally blamed the failures on the 5 volt Prodigy, but since those original problems I have had no further issues.

This past weekend I tried to revive some poorly performing atomizers. After trying them all on 3.7 volts and not being satisfied with the results I decided to try them at 5 volts. I said if they blow, then they blow. But to my surprise not a single one of the 5 old atomizers were damaged at 5 volts. All of these atomizers had 3.0 ohms resistance. So there went my original theory right out the window. It wasn't the higher voltage alone causing the atomizers to fail.

The only conclusion I can come up with is at 5 volts a weak or bad atomizer will fail quicker. I've even tried vaping at 6 volts and have had no issues other than a bad taste.

So in my experience so far it is important to check the resistance of your atomizers. The resistance should be normally around 2 to 3 ohms. This will give you an idea of the electrical health of the atomizer. It will not tell you that there is or isn't a dirty coil. An atomizer coil that is coated with carbon will still have good electrical resistnace.

There are 3 types of atomizer failure:

1. Electrical problems that can be detected with an ohm meter. Resistance higher than 2 to 4 ohms is not normal. This indicates something is breaking down either in the coil itself or the coil connections are going bad. Be sure that the multimeter you are using can be trusted to give fairly acurate numbers.

2. Coil coated with carbon. This is hard to correct due to the toughness of carbon. It is extremely difficult to get rid of carbon build-up. Some try dry burn, hydrogen peroxide burn and other different ways to clean this carbon off. This is the leading cause of atomizer failure.

3. Wicking problems due to juice clogs. This problem is usually easy to correct by soaking in alcohol or other "safe" solvents.

It is my theory that atomizers with a higher than normal resistance will fail at higher voltages. This is due to heat from the voltage drop accross the problem that is causing the resistance. Right now I can't prove this.

I hope this helps someone.

Kevin

I think I found a way to revitalize a DYING atomizer. It was producing the tiniest amount of vape in the world and I did what I always do. Don't listen to anybody else and go with your idea instead (no offense).

The coil is now shining so bright with my method and hits so hard. It's 100% new.

I have to wait until I get another atomizer like this so I'm letting one soak in juice and testing it every morning til I get that tiny amount of vape and see if I can replicate the result. I'm 80% certain I can.

 

[andel11]

When I first started vaping, I would do what was suggested, cleaning with the different methods, boiling water, soaked in coke, the alcohol cleaning. They would destroy my atty. So I stop cleaning, Now all I do is blow them out ever couple of days and I have been on the same atty for a few months, good smoke/vape, no problems no more blown atty. I use up to 6 different atty, 801/510/901- 2 of each for different flavors. Forget about those water boiling, alcohol/coke soaks and your atty will last.

 

[a2dcovert]

When I first started vaping, I would do what was suggested, cleaning with the different methods, boiling water, soaked in coke, the alcohol cleaning. They would destroy my atty. So I stop cleaning, Now all I do is blow them out ever couple of days and I have been on the same atty for a few months, good smoke/vape, no problems no more blown atty. I use up to 6 different atty, 801/510/901- 2 of each for different flavors. Forget about those water boiling, alcohol/coke soaks and your atty will last.

Using multiple attys you are splitting the amount of time each is actually being used. I do that as well but with just 3. It seems like the attys are lasting longer but it really works out to the same amount of time per atty. 6 attys in rotation last for 6 months still works out to be 1 month per atty.

I don't do any preventive maintenance. When the vapor production drops below acceptable levels then I attempt to revive them. I simply rince them out under a hot water stream and then soak them in rubbing alcohol for about a week. Sometimes I get them back up to 80 or 90% sometimes not. I don't throw any away. At some time we may find the atty fountain of youth.

Kevin

 

[andel11]

I don't do any preventive maintenance. When the vapor production drops below acceptable levels then I attempt to revive them. I simply rince them out under a hot water stream and then soak them in rubbing alcohol for about a week. Sometimes I get them back up to 80 or 90% sometimes not. I don't throw any away. At some time we may find the atty fountain of youth.

Kevin[/QUOTE]
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Yeah you are probably right. You know I don't throw my away either. I don't know some how I think maybe one day I'll pull them out of the bag and they will start working, ,So 1 week of soaking with alcohol, does that work for you? The alcohol soaks for me always were the worst never could get a atty to work after an alcohol soak.