Supreme RDTA by Steam Crave

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I totally agree...RIP Trippers saying that the supreme isn't worth the extra money is ridiculous to me. I bet if the Supreme was made in Germany,Greece or USA and was $150 he would say it is totally worth it. Anyway, I have had expensive atomizers over the years and I can say the build quality and machining is as good as any I have ever seen. Also it is the best designed atty I have ever owned. The JFC is way better than any I have owned. To me JFC feature usually is a PITA feature but with the supreme it is actually very useful. The AFC is very innovative and is the best on any rta I have owned. Don't let the small AFC holes fool you it has more airflow that anyone would need. At it narrowest setting it has more airflow than the Griffon or Crius fully open.

The thing that really surprised me with this atty is the taste. I don't have the Griffon 25mm but compared to the Griffon, Crius, Bellus....well there is no comparison. I don't know how but it rivals and beats the Krixus and the target ceramic coil atomizers in terms of taste. Maybe it is because this atty wicks incredibly well. Again I don't really understand how but this atty wicks better than any other atomizer I have owned and I don't even have the JFC halfway open. It is also the easiest atty to coil and wick....it is fool proof.

The only con for me is that its drip tip and all my own drip tips fit loosely on it. It took about 2 minutes and some dental floss and now I got its drip tip to fit snug.
 

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I totally agree...RIP Trippers saying that the supreme isn't worth the extra money is ridiculous to me. I bet if the Supreme was made in Germany,Greece or USA and was $150 he would say it is totally worth it. Anyway, I have had expensive atomizers over the years and I can say the build quality and machining is as good as any I have ever seen. Also it is the best designed atty I have ever owned. The JFC is way better than any I have owned. To me JFC feature usually is a PITA feature but with the supreme it is actually very useful. The AFC is very innovative and is the best on any rta I have owned. Don't let the small AFC holes fool you it has more airflow that anyone would need. At it narrowest setting it has more airflow than the Griffon or Crius fully open.

The thing that really surprised me with this atty is the taste. I don't have the Griffon 25mm but compared to the Griffon, Crius, Bellus....well there is no comparison. I don't know how but it rivals and beats the Krixus and the target ceramic coil atomizers in terms of taste. Maybe it is because this atty wicks incredibly well. Again I don't really understand how but this atty wicks better than any other atomizer I have owned and I don't even have the JFC halfway open. It is also the easiest atty to coil and wick....it is fool proof.

The only con for me is that its drip tip and all my own drip tips fit loosely on it. It took about 2 minutes and some dental floss and now I got its drip tip to fit snug.

So far the drip tip on mine is fine, but probably will loosen up after more use. I am thinking of getting a second one of these? just to have a spare, but the way this industry is going Steam Crave will have a better one in 3-4 months! ;) I am hoping to get my NEW parts for my NEW Griffin 25mm so I can compare the 2, just to be fair!
But after what wingsfan told me I might be disappointed! I agree with you, I have used the ceramic coils in my Aspire Triton 2 tank, and this Supreme blows it away, I have an Alliance V2 RDA and this Supreme is still better flavor. I think that is because the air hole is lined perfectly at the coil, where the RDA has the air holes slightly above? I do not know, but whatever Steam Crave did, IT WORKS! :thumbs:
 
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Just bought my black supreme after reading the comments here,.. Just don't want to miss out on it as I already own the aromamizer v1 which is already a kick-... tank.

Just wondering what to build in it

I got SS 316L 26g
I got fused Clapton kanthal 28*2/32
I got regular kanthal from 20 upto 30g
Will use it on the RX200 (M1 on 130 if I'll be using SS?)

Vertical coils? Horizontal? 2mm ID? 3mm ID? As much wraps as it can have? I have been struggling with what to choose since I started building, not really sure whether I am vaping to the fullest of what's possible

Either way, can't wait for the beast to be delivered !
 

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LOL, well I haven't watched his new fishing video!:cool: and He is lazy lately, 1 video a week? But he is entertaining, I watch a few different ones, Vaping Heathen has to be the hardest worker, but he is boring! Mike vapes is good, but again not much entertainment! I watch them only to see what we will not get for couple of months. If it were not for the watching of them I would have bought the Griffin 22, until the Gemini 22, then I would have gotten the Griffin 25, and would have been to broke to afford the Awesome Supreme! :cry:
 

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Just bought my black supreme after reading the comments here,.. Just don't want to miss out on it as I already own the aromamizer v1 which is already a kick-... tank.

Just wondering what to build in it

I got SS 316L 26g
I got fused Clapton kanthal 28*2/32
I got regular kanthal from 20 upto 30g
Will use it on the RX200 (M1 on 130 is using SS?)

Vertical coils? Horizontal? 2mm ID? 3mm ID? As much wraps as it can have? I have been struggling with what to choose since I started building

Either way, can't wait for the beast to be delivered !
I did, 2.5 id 4/5 wraps,, It was giving me dry hits when I had 3.0 5/6 wraps with the same juice
I tried different configurations, no luck
Except when I copy the Aussie on ytube built,
Horizontal coils cbv2, 90-95 watts... No dry hits
Good luck bro[emoji100]
 

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I have a couple of claptons pre-built by wotofo reading at .23 ohms using cotton bacon, great performance and flavor! I haven't build my first coil yet, was waiting on tools and the wire, heck all that stuff. I really do not think the build will matter on this tank, would depend on your vaping preference, I believe this RDTA will deliver the performance for Clouds and flavor!
 
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I have a couple of claptons pre-built by wotofo reading at .23 ohms using cotton bacon, great performance and flavor! I haven't build my first coil yet, was waiting on tools and the wire, heck all that stuff. I really do not think the build will matter on this tank, would depend on your vaping preference, I believe this RDTA will deliver the performance for Clouds and flavor!
Oh it does... Sir
 

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I did, 2.5 id 4/5 wraps,, It was giving me dry hits when I had 3.0 5/6 wraps with the same juice
I tried different configurations, no luck
Except when I copy the Aussie on ytube built,
Horizontal coils cbv2, 90-95 watts... No dry hits
Good luck bro[emoji100]

So you're saying that bigger isn't necessarily better.

There are too many variables that can lead to a bad/disappointing vape. It's not easy as there is always a possibly that a supposedly good build can be done so much better.
 

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Just bought my black supreme after reading the comments here,.. Just don't want to miss out on it as I already own the aromamizer v1 which is already a kick-... tank.

Just wondering what to build in it

I got SS 316L 26g
I got fused Clapton kanthal 28*2/32
I got regular kanthal from 20 upto 30g
Will use it on the RX200 (M1 on 130 if I'll be using SS?)

Vertical coils? Horizontal? 2mm ID? 3mm ID? As much wraps as it can have? I have been struggling with what to choose since I started building, not really sure whether I am vaping to the fullest of what's possible

Either way, can't wait for the beast to be delivered !

Congrats! I'm sure you will be happy. It might help if you stated your preferred juice % of PG/VG and watts. Everyone is a bit different so some trial and error plus establishing a point of reference from one build to the next helps. I've tried a few different builds but I'm vaping at around 50 watts with 50/50 juice in power mode.

So far my fav is: A dual Horizontal Kanthal build. About 9 wraps of 26 guage around a 3MM screw driver with KGD. Around .6 ohms and ends are fluffy fluffy fluffy. Either a 50/50 juice or 65%PG/35%VG juice. Tails of the wick are tucked under the coil so each tail covers a single juice hole. I don't overlap the tails and am still experimenting with tails that have been cut so they are thinner and normal tails. KGD is semi tight. The flavor is outstanding with this build. The vapor is moist and super saturated with flavor and also produces a yummy "finish"

Please be VERY carefull of those super small JC pins which fall out. Very easy to loose.

Good luck and enjoy!
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True. In my case like I said with the clapton Wotofo pre builds the flavor and performance is great! I have the same coils in my Moonshot, this Aromamizer out performs it, in ease of build to wicking to non leaking and the flavor, which is what I am after. I have had a few dry hits with the Moonshot chain vaping, have not with the Supreme! YET! I guess never say never.
 
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Congrats! I'm sure you will be happy. It might help if you stated your preferred juice % of PG/VG and watts. Everyone is a bit different so some trial and error plus establishing a point of reference from one build to the next helps. I've tried a few different builds but I'm vaping at around 50 watts with 50/50 juice in power mode.

So far my fav is: A dual Horizontal Kanthal build. About 9 wraps of 26 guage around a 3MM screw driver with KGD. Around .6 ohms and ends are fluffy fluffy fluffy. Either a 50/50 juice or 65%PG/35%VG juice. Tails of the wick are tucked under the coil so each tail covers a single juice hole. I don't overlap the tails and am still experimenting with tails that have been cut so they are thinner and normal tails. KGD is semi tight. The flavor is outstanding with this build. The vapor is moist and super saturated with flavor and also produces a yummy "finish"

Please be VERY carefull of those super small JC pins which fall out. Very easy to loose.

Good luck and enjoy!
:)

Sounds like something to try:)
However, with this Juice flow control, using high VG (I always use 70/30) shouldn't be a problem, I hope. It doesn't give any issues on my v1 (fused Clapton/horizontal/2.5id/4 wraps).
Haven't tried vertical though,.. Guess I should try it, and when it disappoints try it again..and again; horizontal, vertical,2mm I'd, 3mm id, 4 wraps, 8 wraps, thick wicking, loose wicking and everything in between.

I started vaping to quit smoking,.. Never knew it would become a full blown hobby
 

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True. In my case like I said with the clapton Wotofo pre builds the flavor and performance is great! I have the same coils in my Moonshot, this Aromamizer out performs it, in ease of build to wicking to non leaking and the flavor, which is what I am after. I have had a few dry hits with the Moonshot chain vaping, have not with the Supreme! YET! I guess never say never.
Isn't the lack of dry hits due to the big juice holes? It would almost seems to be idiot-proof with these gaping holes.
 

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So you're saying that bigger isn't necessarily better.

There are too many variables that can lead to a bad/disappointing vape. It's not easy as there is always a possibly that a supposedly good build can be done so much better.
All I'm saying is, I tried big 3.0 and 3.5
My tank had hard time wicking, I was getting dry hits, cuz I have to ramp up the wattage due to the diameter of the coil, it wasn't just keeping up, I wanted the supreme to hit like the BOREAS
I tried regular
Micro
SS
Clapton
FC all 3.0-3.5 same cotton, even at 70 watts it wasn't keeping up...
I decided to go smaller I'd, to my surprise it's chucking at 80-95 watts no dry hits..
60/40pg right now, the supreme just doesn't wick like the BOREAS, I'm sorry if I kept comparing...
 

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Coming from the squonking side, I've been using a PSO Indulgence Mutank, as of late in my 26650 Black Oak. I've got the Supreme on order since yesterday. Looking forward to being able to swap wicks without a complete disassembly. I really like the PSO Mutank performance, but the wick swap...

Anyway, I found dual 2.5 28ga SS 7wrap rauon to be good on the mechanical mod throughout the battery use cycle to 3.6v with the Mutank. I'll probably try this build on the Supreme when it arrives, and go from there to find the sweet spot. I like a full vapor, but more importantly, flavor! I hope this tank delivers.

Now, to bore the Black Oak tank "cage" to accept 25mm (mic'd stock cage @ 24.5 mm)...
 

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Isn't the lack of dry hits due to the big juice holes? It would almost seems to be idiot-proof with these gaping holes.

Yes plus I believe it also has to do with the gravity feed? I have wicked it 3 times, same coil, and not leaks, no little puddles! BUT because the coil is so close to the air hole, it will get a little bit of spitting on your mod, but with all the pro's of this tank, I do not mind.
 
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