SVD owners......

[Ref Minor]

Honestly I don't believe there is a clone of the SVD. I really think the minute differences people are seeing is just a change in the manufacturing process (which happens all the time).

I think the only real clone out there of innokin's right now is that itaste 134 that sigelei (sp) just came out with.

I remember a few months ago someone posting a picture of their FT SVD claiming it was a fake because X was different to a picture of one from another vendor, it ended up with pictures of different variations of several things with slightly different SVDs sold by the same vendors.

Eg get one from US vendor in May and the button was dull, get one in July from the same place and it was shiny, same thing with FT. Innokin uses different factories to produce their mods and there can be slight variances depending on the available materials.

FT Innokins come with authenticity codes removed so Innokin cannot tell their source as they don't like them being sold off cheap. If they were fakes their would be no need to do this as they wouldn't have the authentification code in the first place.

 

[generic mutant]

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FT Innokins come with authenticity codes removed so Innokin cannot tell their source as they don't like them being sold off cheap. If they were fakes their would be no need to do this as they wouldn't have the authentification code in the first place.

You can see the flaw in that reasoning, can't you...

 

[Ref Minor]

You can see the flaw in that reasoning, can't you...

Anyone can take any conspiracy theory to the ends that support their agenda. Everyone I know who has actually purchased an Innokin product from FT including myself is satisfied that they are authentic which you can see from the replies in this thread. Also one chap in the FT thread had the cut out bit left in the box and it checked out fine.

 

[generic mutant]

I'm not sure this counts as a conspiracy theory. And I don't have an agenda.

I'm just deeply sceptical of grey market stuff from China, is all. It might be real, it might be cloned, it might be somewhere in the middle.

You pays your money and you makes your choice...

 

[tonyorion]

Stuff is finally starting to dribble in since FT went to Singapore post. I got one order yesterday, one has a USPS tracking number but not yet arrived, and the third is still somewhere in Malaysia.

This order had a bunch of RDA's which I plan on using for testing juices. They are about the same price as a 510 atty and are big enough to rewick easily. Since the wick/wire are exposed they will clean a lot easier than a 510. Need to play with them a bit to see if micro coils and swapping out the wick work better than rinsing with normal coils. Right now my procedure is to test and toss the atty into a hot ultrasonic bath with bicarbonate of soda; but my supply of 510's is dwindling. It's easy to go through 20-30 in a blending session.

Got some other electronics and the Tec flashlight mod. It is beautifully made if you like neo gothic styling. The surface is a powder coated bronze color. It is VV/VW, has a great screen, is 18650/18350 capable, has a vent hole on the bottom cap, has dual ego/510 threading with a deep, wide well which will take almost any vaporizer. The flashlight head is big but bright and has a variety of modes. The only disappointment is that it will not give you resistance, but I got an tester for $10 which is half the price of those in the US. Most electronic mods have resistance checking.

The transit time through Singapore does add about 7-10 days. Be aware that the Chinese New Year starts on the 31st of January so get your order into the system before then. If the item is out of stock, you may not get it until March.

So far, two of the 4 orders placed with Fasttech have been flawless except for the delivery time. One of the remaining two has left Singapore, and the remaining one is moving.

The BS about clones of clones being made for them is nonsense. Fasttech does not make anything; it is not their business model. They get the stuff locally, shove it in an envelope and distribute worldwide. If the product says Innokin or Protank, you will get an Innokin or Protank. If it says Innokin or Protank style, you will get a clone. Don't forget that most of the ecig stuff is made in China anyway. After all, the ecig was born there.

The prices are scary good, though. They are Black Friday prices every day, and, in some cases half the price of B&M's........if you are willing to wait.

 

[generic mutant]

Nobody is suggesting Fasttech make anything.

You only have to Google 'Chinese fake electronics' to see page after page of images of very convincing looking fakes, with near identical packaging. I suspect the people who bought those things are completely convinced they're real as well - until they break, anyway.

If you think this industry is special, or that there's some kind of code against faking other Chinese manufacturers goods, sorry, but you're deluding yourself.

Maybe they are real, fell off the back of a lorry. Maybe they're substandard parts that don't make it through Innokin QC. Maybe they're made by the same shops out of the same parts, but not sold through the normal channels.

The point is, you can't tell just by looking at it. I'd rather not take the chance, not least because I'm putting a 10 amp battery in it, holding it up to my face, and pushing the big red button.

 

[jackson32503]

My SVD was my first (and only, to date) VV/VW mod. I like the button layout, and appreciate the etched labels for the functions. Mine has had lots of use, and it's been great, other than a finicky fire button, which likes to stick sometimes.

I like the overall look and find it easy to operate. I'm not a huge fan of the telescoping aspect, but still like it far more than...let's say...the Vamo, which has fixed length tunes, but is less durable and less intuitive, in my opinion.

I've been considering a wrap for it, probably carbon fiber, but really want to resolve my fire button problems, or replace it, first.

I also found the air holes in the beauty ring did not provide adequate airflow, so I drilled those two holes out to 3/32". That resolved the airflow, but in retrospect, the look would have been better had I kept the holes smaller and created more of them...maybe even all 6 of the dimples, as you can now see the threads of the ego connection through the holes.

 

[ZeroOhm]

I wouldn't buy one again or recommend anyone i knew to buy one. I accept almost all the cheap stuff has design flaws but there are a couple of glaring ones with the SVD, seeing it stripped down reveals all. Maybe most of the low end VW devices are the same there made to the lowest possible price point I'm not laying blame on Chinese manufacturing its the nature of the beast. Buying cheaply made vaping devices could be a false economy and not good for your health.


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[ZeroOhm]

The non standard tactile trigger switch, i'm sure these are around 0.2p (UK) or less in true manufacturing costs.


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[Faylool]

I sometimes push the little button instead of the power button periodically. I have to find my directions to figure out how to unlock my power setting so I can change it. Anybody happen to know? If I let it sit too long I forget how it works! But that's just a personal fault. Most my tanks and atty drip tip combos look great with it. I have no urge to wrap. With Vamo I wrap. Well I covered it in glove leather. It screws slow? You have to screw it a long time to get down or out to battery choice size. I got mine from fast tech but they are same. I mean, for $48 -ish its a steal and works like it should.

 

[webgeek]

I have an SVD, and it's generally worked really well. I haven't experienced any button failures, but I have had some trouble with it turning off randomly. Replaced my cheap batteries, and the problem seems to have gone away.

Faylool: if you're trying to unlock the device, hold both adjustment buttons for something like five seconds. It'll cycle through the atomizer's resistance and display the current voltage/power setting, then it should be unlocked.

 

[moto2000]

Its awesome, my only negative is that its huge in 18650 mode...

 

[ThomW]

Love my svd. No problems whatsoever and I use it as my daily device.

 

[debinnv]

Just got my SVD today and I love it , but whoa is this a bigun with the 18650 battery

Gonna keep my fingers crossed that I don't have any button issues. I have noticed that it will cut out a little after drawing on it for say slow count of 3 or 4 but I can get used to that. It's amazing the flavor and vapor difference from the vision spinner I was using.

I am using it in the watt setting and seems like 8 to 8.5 is pretty good. Using a IBT tank and it's a 3.0 carto. Got AW IMR batteries from RTD with a xtar charger so I think I got everything I should have and I think my settings are okay.

I read and read and read some more before this mod arrived. Does it sound like I got it all right?

Anyway, I am quite happy with it so far!

Oh one question, I have read that some people use an airflow controller with the SVD. Could someone tell me why? I do have one but stopped using it when I put my Protank 2 away and went to carto's Thanks

 

[jackson32503]

Well...it appears my fire button has entirely 'given up the ghost'. I guess now I'll revisit the matter with Fast Tech. I opted to back-out of the exchange process about a month ago, as it was still working MOST of the time, and I had just waited over 2 months for my last order from them.

I guess we'll see how it goes.

:-/

 

[ZeroOhm]

......

Oh one question, I have read that some people use an airflow controller with the SVD. Could someone tell me why? I do have one but stopped using it when I put my Protank 2 away and went to carto's Thanks

Maybe to prevent wearing of the 510 threads or issues with airflow with tanks/cartos (AGR?)



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[ZeroOhm]

Well...it appears my fire button has entirely 'given up the ghost'. I guess now I'll revisit the matter with Fast Tech. I opted to back-out of the exchange process about a month ago, as it was still working MOST of the time, and I had just waited over 2 months for my last order from them.

I guess we'll see how it goes.

:-/

How much warranty does FT have on these? Over here alot of sellers only give 14 days and maybe authorised dealers would take pity on us and give 28 days. We pay 200-300% or more than The FT price yes the shipping is slow and can be PITA but given the trigger switch is weak really weak, cheap really cheap and rated at MTBF => 100 000 switch actuations. Mine collapsed after 4 weeks no tactile feedback 'click' it's like rolling a dice with these cheap PVs but looking at other PVs In the price range the non standard POS in the SVD is IMHO at best poor in comparison. I have read numerous posts just take a look here on ECF, sure you will have loads of people saying mine has be working, no problems blah blah blah.

It might have a nice SS case but like most others it is made at the lowest possibly price point. The original ones had a threaded top so atleast (if you could source the parts) it could of been repaired, now there glued, welded being as this would of saved money its the philosophy of asian economics which Chinese manufacturing are the masters of. I am not having a go at the Chinese per se having Chinese genes myself just pointing out why buying cheap is often in reality a false economy.

Some vaping analysis is interesting here too, how many vapes in an average day do you do? Some heavy vapers can do somewhere in the region of 500 maybe 1000 a day doing the maths on a 0.2p switch which may or may not have a MTBF of 100 000 actuations rolling the dice remembering this is in the bottom 10 percentile in terms of quality and cost for this type of switch thats just a 100 days of life, it maybe less it maybe more, often low grade components fail before there rated life given they are cheap and fail by design.

I am newbie and took up vaping to save my life with the least possible resistance having only been vaping a few weeks and understanding what i do about electronics, my 1st VV PV failed in less than a week, the SVD showed signs of failing in 3-4 weeks and the MVP i got in desperation as back up is from new spurious in its VW mode (with the same atty/tank) in comparison with the SVD! Given these were all bought at UK prices (rip off profiteering) buying a ProVari for example in the first place, which given there reported reliability would of been way more cost effective on price and my sanity!

I am done with it lesson learnt done and dusted, in truth i would rather take my chances with a Mech Mod Clone atleast you have some latitude for repair and reliability once understanding the basics, i would rather risk venting batteries than buying a Vamo that strips its threads in 2 weeks

Atleast you didn't pay UK prices and I hope they exchange it for you, given the often voiced hatred for FT try some UK sellers! I would rather take my chances with FT than the vast majority of eBay & UK retailers from direct experience.

I am not an elitist it would be nice if I had the almighty dollar to buy high end vaping kit, if only for the piece of mind and quality i don't. Trying to reach vaping nirvana on a shoestring is like navigating a minefield at times such is the life of a vaper. I have been throughly chuffed (to use an englishism) with most of the clone RBAs i have purchased and marvelled at there quality even if my Chinese cousins are trying to kill me with brass and give me lead poisoning not to mention the free swarf

Hail the almighty Yuan! Long live the dragon!

Vape on!


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[Shedit]

I now use Heaven Gifts (HG) exclusively and have had excellent results with their genuine equipment after some bad experience with KO's from other well known Chinese vendors. Funny that HG price for the SVD is $62.50 and guaranteed for 3 months. Either they're making a huge profit or it's the real deal.
Don't get me wrong, I live in China. They will knock off a knock off if they can get away with it, just had good luck with HG equipment and customer service so far after many orders.

 

[jackson32503]

Actually, FastTech warrantees for exchange for 6 months. Thank goodness.

I was going to exchange this about 2 months ago, when the problem was still intermittent, but was reluctant, as I was indefinitely waiting for an order which sat in Hong Kong Post for over 7 weeks with no available info.

That order was eventually received, and FastTech is now shipping differently.

I probably won't get to send it out until after Christmas.

I guess we'll see how it plays out.

 

[debinnv]

Thanks for all the info. I can see there is a slight button issue with mine but I will just keep it and see how it goes. I only paid $40 for it so I figure it was a good way to see if I enjoy the whole vv/vw thing.