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you will have it very soon my friend, just wait 2-3 more weeks for this.

Thanks for your kind words, I believe exactly the same. When I first made those atties and I put them in 6 and 7.2 volts the combination was so nice that I jumbed from my chair.

I am ordering now the big batch for HV AFS atties so we will be the happiest of the world very soon emonty:thumbs:
 

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Imeo,

Is this better than 5v vaping and will these Imeo Atties also be available again for the AFS?

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Vaughan


The power that GG produce with HV atties in 6 volts is the same as the 5 volt vaping with the regular atties but the taste is much stronger, better and of cource no burned taste as the 5 volt vaping Vaug.:)

The HV atties will be available for the AFS and new 510 atties will be available for existing AFS too. This is because Bandit asked me all the time about this, so its time to make them. I am waiting for them in about 1 week.
 

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    The power that GG produce with HV atties in 6 volts is the same as the 5 volt vaping with the regular atties but the taste is much stronger, better and of cource no burned taste as the 5 volt vaping Vaug.:)

    The HV atties will be available for the AFS and new 510 atties will be available for existing AFS too. This is because Bandit asked me all the time about this, so its time to make them. I am waiting for them in about 1 week.

    Wait, so now you're admitting GG at 6v and 7+ v = burnt prior to your new atties? And even 5v = 'burnt'? :D :lol:

    It seems we had a conversation or two on this.. :) :)

    I really wish you would have made a resistance disk instead, or an adapter for the atty threads..I have a million 510 atties that could have used those, over yet more "special" parts..that didn't need to be.

    Ahh well, sticking to 3.7v on the GGT, or 5v PT it is. :( (at least until I go through 50 or so 510 atties, then maybe..)

    Why no PT for the GGT and others, Imeo? That would have been very nice. Is the GGTS a different diameter than the GGT then (the non inner telescopic part)?

    And the 'adjustable' draw - can't seem to find anything on it. Will that be only for the GGTS as well?

    Sorry for dumping all accumulated questions in this thread, but..umm..I did. :)
     

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    Hi weg my friend

    Sorry I didnt understand what I am admitting here because my english are poor as you know.

    Adapter for atty threads? For what threads you mean and why you cant use your 510 atties?

    Why sticcking to 3,7 volt on GGT? You can vape at 6 and 7 volts with my new atties.

    What is PT for GGT? I didnt understand again.

    Adjustable draw will be for GGTS only. Adjustable draw is nothing special for me, I just made it because I needed for AFS but then I made it for all atomizers.
     

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    Yes and I am loving the Pass Thru for the AFS actually. Regular AFS atties are really good with the 5v pass thru. It feels like a really nice 4.5v with great flavor. Plus I am not using my batteries at all. They are sitting here looking at me saying use me.... charge me.... but I am not even looking at those things anymore while at home. I might even set up a pass thru at work so I don't need them there anymore either. The idea to use the AC adapter instead of the USB was a really good idea imeo!!! I don't have the luxury of a computer at work so that was not an option for me. This option is just what I needed.
     

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    Yes and I am loving the Pass Thru for the AFS actually. Regular AFS atties are really good with the 5v pass thru. It feels like a really nice 4.5v with great flavor. Plus I am not using my batteries at all. They are sitting here looking at me saying use me.... charge me.... but I am not even looking at those things anymore while at home. I might even set up a pass thru at work so I don't need them there anymore either. The idea to use the AC adapter instead of the USB was a really good idea imeo!!! I don't have the luxury of a computer at work so that was not an option for me. This option is just what I needed.

    Thanks friend. I made it for 2 reasons:

    1) you can vape anywhere in the world (exept in a forest:D)

    2) real 5 volt, not something like 5 volt that passthrough gives
     

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    Hi Imeo,

    PT = passthrough. Make a USB ended passthrough for all GGs, ideally USB end to go to any wall wart/transformer, or powered USB hub. A few different sized battery 'blanks' and endcaps, and it should be doable for all GGs.

    adapter - I would rather see a buy it once adapter containing the resistance, or a resistance disk, than 'special' and difficult to get, as well as more $, atomizers. An adapter could screw on the end of your 901 GG thread, and simply extend the device slightly, or could simply be a small added 'tube' between the top cap and the existing tube.

    Recall how "everyone" said how great 7+vDC vaping was, and that 5v vaping, and any "sweet spot" was rubbish? We had discussions on this one.. :) Above, you would seem to admit that 6-7v vaping results in burnt taste. By making attys that effectively emulate the wattage of a 5v device, you've effectively proven that argument. It's kinda like every release of Windows - when it comes out, they say it's great. When the next version of Windows comes out, they admit how many problems the old one (7+v) had, so you should now get the 'new one.' :D

    Anyways, there's nothing wrong with improving a device, but it would be nice to see some improvements trickle down the line to existing GG owners, not only the latest model. A passthrough in particular would be nice.

    On the adjustable draw - is there a picture anywhere or video on this one? I like the draw of my 510 atty on the GGT and in general, but some others are too "airy" and I wouldn't mind adjusting, even if it meant 'adjustable draw end cap' -> 901 threads -> adapter.
     

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    weg, your language is a bit dificult for me but think that I understood what you said. ok

    1) If we can solve the resistance problem with atomizers and not with resistors then we are winners because HV atomizers didnt made just for bigger resistanse. They made to stop burning taste, they made to make batteries stay alive longer, they made to be stronger at 6 volts. All those thin gs and some others I dont remember now I think worth the more money they have. We cant have everything in the same cost, yes?

    2) About sweet spot I have to say that I had never had an issue with burning taste at 6 volts and yes we had discussed this but if my people think that there is a problem then I have to solve their problem. So now with those atties they dont have it any more.

    3) As for "windows", you are absolutely right. But this happens because you had the best the specific time but when you see the better one then you say that the first one was rubish. Its true and logical , do you agree?

    4) I am also thinking of my old customers. But some things cant be done. 4 in 1 connector requires telescope to work, passthrough dont work because cap's threads are different and handmade so even if I make new caps they will not fit in your GG, etc. But I made a recall if you remember to give to all my people the locking button option and correct the issue that GG worked by touching metal surface, I will send for free the "stop leakage" option to my GGTS customers, I am making AFS for the GG people and to all people that dont have the cartomizer option.

    As for the adjustable draw, it will be on the new GG cap that it will be sold separately with other new features too but you cant have this option for GGT because of the threads. It will not fit for the reasons IO just said before.

    I hope that I covered you. I do my best but some things cant be done, sorry my old friend :):)
     

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    Hi Imeo,

    One of the problems with GG in general has always been stock - I see there's a US distributor now, who has zero HV atties in stock, and I think maybe a GGTS with oddball cap and color combination. No AFS, no USB, no regular atties modified for AFS, etc.

    A more generic solution doesn't invalidate the stockpile of atties many of us have, while still gaining benefits of reducing voltage to those atties (e.g. a resistance disk, vs new atties), but I'll have to reserve judgement until I can compare the new atties. :) Assuming of course, someone in the US has them in stock some year.. :)

    Oh - so what is the difference here? I see your first mention of HV atties at nearly the identical time Nerf posted about custom ordering some, which seem to now be stocked by one place in the US. ??

    I didn't know the GG threads were done by hand, but even then, you did use a standard tap and die, no? I think I'm still missing a part here.. ?

    Oh well, the GGTS looks nice, as does the adjustable draw and new caps/adapter, and I really like the internal battery replacement "telescope" :)

    I won't be getting an AFS until the 510 version is sorted - I never liked the draw on the 901s, and without adjustable draw for the GGT, that leaves me waiting on the next version of the AFS, for the 510.

    A comment on the passthrough - for the next generation, it might make sense to use a 2A USB wall adapter, and make the cable standard USB. If the wall transformer fails, you replace just it, and people can still use it from a powered USB hub (if slightly underpowered), as well as some larger battery packs. More flexible, more common parts, etc.

    Would you sell the internal telescope (battery replacement, conductor, not the Telescoping system brass) separately, so I can modify one of my existing caps (I have two sets) to accept power? I really like that telescope. :D
     

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    I am not a factory to make all of those things for GG so yes I am out of stock many times but I am trying to correct this. I said that I will not stay out of stock again but I cant catch the demand. But I am making huge quantities of everything now so this problem will be eliminated soon I hope

    I am not putting resistors on GG because we have to look forward making better cigs and not turning back to old solutions that are worse and have problems like heat, lost power and not with the advantages of the new solutions that I mention before.

    I dont know who Nerf is but I was talking about HV atties 1 month before anyone else. Those atties are already sold by Lisa and in a few days from Rob.

    When you make threads by hand using a tool on lathe you dont know everytime the depth and the aptitude of the tool you use. Exept this, a tool may broke so you use another one that is a little different so threads are different too

    Thanks for your kind words about GGTS weg, you see now why I always move on for new things?

    510 AFS will be in market later because I still making changes to it. I am trying to make it for 901 and 510 too at the same time without the need to buy 2 AFS devices

    I know what you are talking about for the wall plug. I wanted to make the connection on the GG and the transformer that goes on the wall in separate pieces so all people could change only the transformer just buying a new one from local stores but I coulnt make a nicer outside plastic for this connection.

    I can sell you the 4 in 1 conductor but what do you mean by the "battery replacement"?
     

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    Hi Imeo,

    Nerf - a forum member, he posted in mid-November about HV atties, which seems to be when you did as well. ? Dunno.

    The 'battery replacement' - sorry, dunno what else to call it. When you remove the battery for passthrough use, instead of the battery, you have a insulated copper telescoping rod that replaces the battery inside the GG tube.
     

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    Hi Imeo,

    Nerf - a forum member, he posted in mid-November about HV atties, which seems to be when you did as well. ? Dunno.

    The 'battery replacement' - sorry, dunno what else to call it. When you remove the battery for passthrough use, instead of the battery, you have a insulated copper telescoping rod that replaces the battery inside the GG tube.

    ok, I see. Yes I can send you one no problem weg
     
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