Swelling throughout entire body

[Chrisk1982]

I know this post is about to get demonized and harshly commented on but here is a few facts I PERSONALLY have come across.

I vape(d) heavily for quiet a long time and it always seems I have intense body wide aches and swelling I have seen over 20 doctors had blood work of every sort drawn up and tested from hormone too Rheumatoid arthritis etc and all I get told is in healthier than even the drs are blood pressure is perfect etc however on the DAILY I've noticed from head too toe literally scalp neck forhead checks chest abdomin hips legs feet arms hands etc etc swelling that literally was just getting worse on the daily, it's a scary feeling to get worse and worse and even PT to say "where is it coming from" and be told by drs your fine if I'm demonized too much I could always upload several of the photos I've took in horror as I've watched my body consistently break further and further daily. I came across a article in my researching WTF is going on and it talks about vaping can cause inflammation, I'm only 2 days out from not vaping anymore and while it isn't a full remission the swelling has SIGNIFICANTLY reduced and I assume will continue to do so I hurt a lot less and it's sad because I truly love vaping monster clouds the taste the freedom to puff almost anywhere if you want to be sneaky and hold your breath.... Anyways just wanted to share my experience with others have fun chastising me for dissing our favorite past time just wanted to share in case there comes a day someone else experiences anything like I have at all

 

[smacuser]

Welcome to ecf @Chrisk1982

Of course your case is unusual, but I can’t discount it from being real. If you were to make your own juice, you could adjust the various ingredients to see if you could identify the offender.

Either that, or take up snus.

Best of luck.

 

[Chrisk1982]

Thanks for not being harsh and I agree it's extremely unusual and only 2 days in I cannot fully blame the vape, but to finally see and feel some type of relief sadly I'm happy to smoke tobacco in the mean time of continuing test, reading that it in fact can cause swelling in the body was a eye opener for me
Study: E-Cigarettes Trigger Inflammation in the Gut.

 

[smacuser]

A lot of folks complain about sensitivity to PG or VG and adjust their levels to what works best for them.

 

[TrollDragon]

 

[ShowMeTwice]

Yes sir! I'll see that and raise you one.




As to the OG post, stop vaping, do not smoke tobacco, do not chew tobacco or use Snus. Eliminate all tobacco products from your Life.

Then, after a good solid 4-6 months, see How Your Body reacts.

If you are still experiencing medical problems then find some new doctors.

Good luck.

 

[Jwaterski]

Some people can’t eat peanuts, shellfish, dairy, the list goes on forever, no surprise you may be having a reaction to something in your vape. Very sorry vaping may not work out for you.

 

[Bliss Doubt]

It's vapor lock! Is your nose wiggling uncontrollably? Are your farts cloudy? Calling Dr. Bombaaaay!!

The link to the study you reference has been removed, but I searched for it by title. Many things that parade as science are something other than science, such as alarmism, superstition, and/or pharma funded controlled opposition or tobacco funded controlled opposition. Reading the UCSD article, I noticed it says "The researchers found that two chemicals used as a base for all e-cigarette liquid vapor — propylene glycol and vegetable glycerol — were the cause of inflammation."

First, eliquids contain glycerin, not glycerol, though they are similar. That alone makes me wonder what college students in a garage were using their thesaurus to write a study that looked all smart and academic.

I continued reading: "In reality, it’s the chemicals making up the vapor liquid that we should be more concerned about as they are the cause of gut inflammation.”

Really? And how did they come to that sweeping conclusion?

"For the study, the team used 3D models of human intestinal tracts generated from patient cells and simulated what happens when e-cigarette vapors enter the gut lining. Researchers validated the findings using mice models of vaping in collaboration with Laura Crotty-Alexander, MD, associate professor of medicine in the Division of Pulmonary, Critical Care and Sleep Medicine at UC San Diego School of Medicine and section chief of Pulmonary Critical Care at Veterans Affairs San Diego Healthcare System."

Mice models of vaping?

Give me strength. Both propylene glycol and vegetable glycerin are used in all sorts of medicines and in foods. If you feel better when you stop vaping, then by all means, stop vaping. Your strategy, "I'm happy to smoke tobacco" will be as logical as the vaping gut test.

 

[smacuser]

Yeah. There's that. Vaping give me zits, but it's worth it.

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

Sounds like renal failure. Best get a referral to a Nephrologist ASAP. I ain't kiddin'.

 

[Unforeseen]

Moved from New Members to Health, Safety, and Vaping

 

[BrotherBob]

I know

Welcome and glad you joined.

 

[Bliss Doubt]

Yeah. There's that. Vaping give me zits, but it's worth it.

Really, smacuser, do you feel vaping gives you zits, or were you just joking?

I've been going back and forth with myself on this: say something, leave it alone, say something, say nothing, say something, none of my business.

If you really believe vaping gives you zits, I'll have suggestions that may help. If you were just joking, or don't want to hear from me about it, I'll keep my thoughts to myself.

I went through eczema in 2018. If I'd not been vaping already since 2012, I might have wondered if vaping did it. The official medical racket says skin conditions like eczema, psoriasis and acne can't be cured. That's because they have no pharmaceutical witch brews that work without causing more harm than good. I researched and researched and researched, tried theory after theory, and discovered what works. We're all different, but there are a few common conditions on the inside of us that will show up on the outside, and on the whole nothing you can rub on the outside will work without taking care of what's going on inside.

Much love. Vape in peace, health and abundance.

 

[TrollDragon]

Must have just been a hit and run post by the OP...

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

Must have just been a hit and run post by the OP...

ANTZ spammers always are one-hit wonders.

 

[puffon]

Must have just been a hit and run post by the OP...

Must be related to this guy:
Hemoglobin and Hematocrit

 

[smacuser]

Really, smacuser, do you feel vaping gives you zits, or were you just joking?.

I truly believe it does. Not as bad as when I first started, even then it wasn’t terrible. Just a few on my chest. I came to that conclusion when I read others saying the same thing. Not a big deal.

I also occasionally use 2% Ketoconezole shampoo, so there’s that.

I would have replied earlier, but just ran across this now.

 

[ShowMeTwice]

 

[Bliss Doubt]

Must be related to this guy:
Hemoglobin and Hematocrit

I'm just not up for troll slaying today. I'm tired of it.

 

[Bliss Doubt]

I truly believe it does. Not as bad as when I first started, even then it wasn’t terrible. Just a few on my chest. I came to that conclusion when I read others saying the same thing. Not a big deal.

I also occasionally use 2% Ketoconezole shampoo, so there’s that.

I would have replied earlier, but just ran across this now.

Well I don't want to intrude, but if you're interested in having a look, pm me and I'll send you a pamphlet I made up at the end of my eczema ordeal.

I know nothing of your age, diet, other habits besides vaping, and I'll never ask. The anonymity of the forum allows us to express ourselves freely, and I respect that. But as I said, I went through a lot of theories, some that worked for me, some that didn't, but it addresses what I found out about common conditions and imbalances that can show up on the skin. It could be the pg, the vg or something in your flavors, is interacting with some other process, but I believe vaping is health giving to a recovering smoker, life saving, and that whatever it is can be fixed.

I'll be editing it down some while I wait. All is up to you. If you don't pm, my feelings won't be hurt, and I'll never bring it up again.