Take this idea and run with it! Modder needed!

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Winace

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My experimentation continues....

Playing with absorbancy factors of various materials and the frustration of failling atomizers brought me to an idea. So far, it works fairly well. I do need someone to expand upon it!

I have a few atomizers that are shot. The wicking material under the bridge has burnt. On one atomizer the bridge actually broke in half. I am out of good atomizers so in an act of desperation, I did the following.

I took a coffee stirrer (one chamber, like a regular straw but smaller), I cut the straw to about 1 1/2 inches. I then proceeded to roll a piece of polyfill like a string and fed it into the straw. On both ends of the straw the poly was extending about 1 inch. On one end I folded the poly over against the outside straw wall and slid 1/2 a spring over the straw (from a clicky pen). The other end of the straw was trimmed off with scissors. I now have a contained wick. On my broken atomizer (coil still worked) I used a pick and removed the bridge. Under the bridge was a solid metal bridge (510 atomizer). I used the pick to remove this also. I inserted the straw (end with spring and exposed poly) into the liquid cup at the bottom of the atomizer. I made sure the straw was turned so only the poly was in direct contact with the coil. While holding the straw in place, I stuffed blue foam around it to keep it centered. I then stuck the end of the straw (sticking out of the atomizer now) into some menthol liquid and waited for it to absorb and wick to the coil. I am vaping it now, in between hits I dip it in fluid to keep the wicking process flowing. As long as the poly is kept wet and you do not hold the coil active for too long you do not get burnt poly.

If on the exposed end of the straw (where cart would be) was a sealed liquid resevoir, it may work very well. This will allow for an exposed coil, no bridge, and increased fluid holding capacity (for the poly will saturate without leaking). Once the poly is actually saturated, the properties of fluidics within the straw will keep it from dumping fluid to the coil.
 

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I took it to the extreme in an attempt to burn the poly. I put the exposed straw end into some cherry flavored PG. I held the batt button down for 20 second intervals (on 20 seconds, off 20 to allow some cooling). I went through the entire battery, taking hits now and again. No burnt poly taste, at the end I removed the straw wick and had no signs of burnt poly. I am onto something here!

I am thinking a cart with a dual straw system. One is for air intake. It goes from the outside of the mouthpiece down next to the coil to allow air pulling in from the atomizer holes. The second straw will extend straight to the coil, filled with poly. The other end will extend to the end of a sealed liquid container. Hole will be punched in the straw inside the liquid container part to allow even better absorbtion to the poly. The liquid container and mouthpiece should be clear so you know when it need filled. The end of the mouthpiece will be a re-sealing membrane (like medications in jars where you insert a syringe and draw out the med). This membrane will allow quick filling of the cartridge.
 

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Very curious about this too.

Sounds like there could be the potential for an atty that can be taken apart to clean.

I've been thinking that half the battle with attys is the lack of ability to get inside of them to clean / repair. If that was a possibility, then it could do wonders for the lifespan of attys. Can you post the pic's tribalmasters?
 

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Ok, I took it a step further, with even greater performance (my head is spinning from the nic buzz right now....).

Here is what I did....

Started with a battery (manual) and an atomizer. The atomizer has no bridge whatsoever (tore it out with a pick). So you hit the button, all you see is the coil start to glow.

I used a two straw system, it looks ugly, but damn it is working good. The two straws I used are one standard sized drinking straw (clear so I can see fluid movement) and one coffee stirrer straw. I cut a section of the drinking straw to two inches. The cut is 90 degree transectional on each end. I took a piece of blue foam about three inches by one quarter inch and rolled it very tightly to plug one end of the straw. I filled the straw with 25 drops of menthol 18mg/ml juice. Then I balled up some poly for the other end (about 1/2 the amount (or a little less) you get from a cart) and inserted. This gives me a solid fluid capsule. If you touch the blue foam side to anything nothing happens. If you touch the poly to anything that is more absorbant than poly (like cloth) it begins to drain slowly.

The second straw is cut to three inches. This is the vent straw. This is also the coffee stirrer sized straw.

The liquid capsule need to have a small amount of poly extending from the straw. It also needs to be balled tight enough where it does not slide up into the straw freely.

I took both straws (poly side first) and inserted into the atomizer. This should be a nice snug fit. The poly come into DIRECT contact with the coil, the vent straw bottoms out beside the coil. I then took a few scrap pieces of blue foam and used my pick to fill the gaps between the straws and atomizer wall. This holds everything in place very well.

Now vape away! When watching the liquid straw, air will displace used fluid from one of two places. Either air will bubble up from the bottom, or in my case air is being pulled through the tightly rolled blue foam plug. Liquid leaks nowhere, and you might get a little burnt poly taste if you lay on the button too long. A three second hit is equivelant to a prior 6 second hit. So you do not need to get that coil red hot.

I am not sure why it hits so well, maybe the velocity through the coffee straw? Or lack of air disturbace through it (like the stock cart), not sure. I can tell you, it hits like a friggin mack truck!
 
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Winace

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I am in vaping bliss right now....

I have gone through 60ml of Marlboro 36mg/ml by Nhaler and never had it taste like marlboro or give me a nicotine buzz till now.

First though. I vaped 22 drops of VG straight, no flavor, to see if I got even a touch of poly taste. Nothing... except I actually tasted HUMCO Glycerin for the first time... kind of bitter. It also makes my stomach gurgle a little, but nothing major.

Back to the Marlboro. As I was vaping the glycerin I stepped outside and fired up an analog. I then proceeded to finish the glycerin. I then filled up a homemade cart with the Nhaler juice. Friggin awesome.... no doubt.... spun my head around and tasted great at the same time. Tasted like I was sucking on an unlight analog (flavor without the ... flavored ash).

I feel as if I am vaping something I shouldn't be vaping... I mean... can it be this good!!!

I am going to expand the idea cosmetically and have a simple push in design, something that will slide over the atomizer casing and have a see through window on the side for juice level. I can not mold stuff, do not have the set-up, so now to find something in the garage that will work ;-)
 

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"A three second hit is equivelant to a prior 6 second hit"

Yesss that bit! More of that please! Thats good especially with smaller batteries that last longer :D

Dunno why this hasn't got more attention by now! I know I couldn't construct one but surely some more modders can experiment with it!

Man, I used the blue foam plug mod, the lipton tea bag mod... you name it. I have not had it THIS good yet!!!! I am attaching the straws togther as one unit, using the air straw as a stopper (if the liquid straw is pushed down too hard it pushes the poly up into the straw and limits contact with the coil).

This is basically a cartomizer design (direct poly to coil), with a more robust coil and a fluid resevoir supply! The taste is BETTER than the blue foam plug mod (see ADM mod) and a traditional atomizer bridge!

Now, if I can get my friggin lips off it long enough.......
 
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