Tank versus cartomizer, opinions?

[Dirgon]

The more I'm reading about stuff, the less I realize I know.

I have tanks and tank atties on the way for my ego, and from what I've read tanks hold 1.1ml of liquid.

Cartomizer's hold 2.5ml of liquid. Do cartos use a filler for wicking, or is it just a tank that's holding liquid that feeds it to the atty, basically the same as the eGo-T?

I really thought tanks were the way to go, everyone kept raving about them, so I figured I'd try them out.... but if cartos hold more liquid, are refillable... what's the benefits of both in comparison to one another? Do cartos still act like carts? By that, I mean, do they tend to taper off in flavor and begin to get an off taste after a bit, requiring topping?

I'm kinda feeling like I should've gone with cartos... I could keep multiple ones around with different flavors and then never worry about blowing out atties when switching juices to keep my flavors from mixing in the attie.

Am I missing something?

Also, am I correct in assuming a cartomizer is the cartrdige + atomizer in one, thus making it a two-piece versus three-piece? I had an e-cig that did that.


edit: side question.... do 510 parts (cartos, carts, atties) work on the eGo? I've not found a fully definitive answer to this.

 

[o4_srt]

your assumption is correct. A cartomizer has filler, which has a tendency to burn and alter the flavor. The tank system has no filler.

 

[DaveP]

Judging from the shape of the atomizer it appears to be based on the Joye cone atomizer that holds about 1.5ml. I'd expect the Ego-T tank to hold more, too.

I have an Ego-T tank in transit right now. I'm interested in the performance and had to get one.

This one holds 2.5ml. $12.00 from Electronic Cigarettes, Eliquid by Awesome Vapor including the cart.

The Joye type B cylinder atomizer (called The Monster on the web site)

 

[Dirgon]

and since filler has a more finite lifespan, that alters the lifespan of the carto, correct?

That puts my mind to rest. Glad to know tanks are more or less good to go for what I'm looking for (consistent flavor with less filling)


@DaveP

I ordered my tanks from cignot; https://www.cignot.com/product_p/egt-tnk-all.htm and while she doesn't list capacity, I just assumed it was the same as the tank/atty combo I saw on another site, which lists it @ 1.1ml

 

[DaveP]

I think we will be happy with the tank. After all, it's good to have backups and alternates. I have to fill my supposedly 2.5ml Monster cart a couple, sometimes three times a day. According to the number of days 60ml o juice lasts me, I vape a little over 2ml a day.

I think the filler is not installed when they quote the capacity of these carts and atomizers. Since the tank has no filler, vaping time will probably be lots more than we think, kind of like the CE2.

 

[paulc35]

Being one that uses every cartomizer made at 3.7v and 6v and also having the Tank/atty combo let me say this. With the Tank is just a much simplier process. Pull the tank out of the cone/attomizer and pop the bottom off and grab your favorite bottle of juice fill the tank replace cap and place back in cone. Now the difference. With the tank/atty combo you get great vapor production and the draw is good, but for some reason you lose a little flavor compared to a good cartomizer. Now this probably wouldn't be noticeable if I didn't keep 3 or 4 E-cigs in my hand all day. I love both the tank and the cartomizer, but use the cartomizer a little more....

 

[DesiG]

Being one that uses every cartomizer made at 3.7v and 6v and also having the Tank/atty combo let me say this. With the Tank is just a much simplier process. Pull the tank out of the cone/attomizer and pop the bottom off and grab your favorite bottle of juice fill the tank replace cap and place back in cone. Now the difference. With the tank/atty combo you get great vapor production and the draw is good, but for some reason you lose a little flavor compared to a good cartomizer. Now this probably wouldn't be noticeable if I didn't keep 3 or 4 E-cigs in my hand all day. I love both the tank and the cartomizer, but use the cartomizer a little more....

Funny, but I use the same type systems and I prefer the tanks! The Boge cartomizers I use only on the V3 at 6v, since the tanks don't like 6v (I tried it, too hot, juice tastes burnt). I keep 3 of the ego-T set up with my fave flavors, and then my V3 with my raspberry ginger ale in the carto's- lined up in my car organizer, and randomly pick them up to vape while I drive (I am a home care nurse and drive all day).

 

[jameth]

After using the tank, I don't think I'll ever go back to cartos, you just can't beat the consistency of the tank system imho.

From first fill to empty tank, the same experience! Awesome!

 

[Bozzlite]

Dirdon posted: side question.... do 510 parts (cartos, carts, atties) work on the eGo? I've not found a fully definitive answer to this.

Definitively yes. All 510 parts are compatible with the Ego. Chargers are a different story tho. You need an Ego Charger for the Ego. A standard 510 charger can be used on an Ego battery, but it will take many hours to charge up. On the other hand, you can not use an Ego charger on a standard 510 battery. Too much output for it. It will destroy the 510 battery.


Also, I think you may have your numbers reversed. I believe an Ego-T tank is rated at about 2ml capacity with recommended filling to only 1.8ml, while a Genuine Joye 510 cartomizer will take appoximately 1ml.

Genuine Joye 510 cartomizers (from Cignot for example) will not give you that burned taste when they get dry.. at least from my experience.

As for my Ego-T versus cartomizer opinon: I have read way too many posts about the loss of flavor with the tank. One thing I don't need is loss of flavor. I will say, that when I switched from attys and carts to Genuine Joye cartomizers I immediately noticed an improvement in flavor and vapor production with all my regular juices.

 

[Ardeagold]

Dirdon posted: side question.... do 510 parts (cartos, carts, atties) work on the eGo? I've not found a fully definitive answer to this.

Definitively yes. All 510 parts are compatible with the Ego. Chargers are a different story tho. You need an Ego Charger for the Ego. A standard 510 charger can be used on an Ego battery, but it will take many hours to charge up. On the other hand, you can not use an Ego charger on a standard 510 battery. Too much output for it. It will destroy the 510 battery.


Also, I think you may have your numbers reversed. I believe an Ego-T tank is rated at about 2ml capacity with recommended filling to only 1.8ml, while a Genuine Joye 510 cartomizer will take appoximately 1ml.

Genuine Joye 510 cartomizers (from Cignot for example) will not give you that burned taste when they get dry.. at least from my experience.

The tank holds a little over 1 ml of liquid. The eGO XL cartos hold over 2 mls of liquid. Boge cartos and other "regular sized" cartos hold about 1 ml of liquid.

The difference in the tank and cartos, however, is that you can vape them "dry". A lot of juice gets held in the atty so you have a few puffs after the tank is empty (although you still don't want to vape that dry). With cartos, you can taste it when it's drying out, and you can't when the tank is getting empty. I suspect even when a carto starts to "burn" there's a good deal of liquid left behind that you never get to.

 

[springtime]

I am sooo frustrated! I just received my new ego tank kit, was soooo excited, and have been totally disappointed! It is so harsh and burns my throat. I am filling the tank with straight VG juice, 12 mg. I have blown out the attys. What could be wrong? I have read nothing but rave reviews!

 

[Bozzlite]

The tank holds a little over 1 ml of liquid. The eGO XL cartos hold over 2 mls of liquid. Boge cartos and other "regular sized" cartos hold about 1 ml of liquid.

The difference in the tank and cartos, however, is that you can vape them "dry". A lot of juice gets held in the atty so you have a few puffs after the tank is empty (although you still don't want to vape that dry). With cartos, you can taste it when it's drying out, and you can't when the tank is getting empty. I suspect even when a carto starts to "burn" there's a good deal of liquid left behind that you never get to.

I stand corrected then. After some quick research I find that the Ego-T claims to hold only 1.2ml.

The Joye cartomizers hold nearly 1ml on the very first fill, but after that they seem to only take about .5ml. (About 10 drops). This is my first week using cartomizers. I have been an atty/cart user for the last 7 months. The cartomizers are a significant improvement in taste and vapor and require less frequent filling than the carts. So, for now, I am satisfied with cartomizers.

Perhaps in the future I will try the tank system, but not until they resolve the loss of flavor issue.

 

[DesiG]

I am sooo frustrated! I just received my new ego tank kit, was soooo excited, and have been totally disappointed! It is so harsh and burns my throat. I am filling the tank with straight VG juice, 12 mg. I have blown out the attys. What could be wrong? I have read nothing but rave reviews!

If I remember correctly, the tanks don't like straight vg juice- too thick, too much sugar (I think). I have 4 of the things and use either 70/30 or 80/20 pg/vg mix and don't have any problems at all. Also make sure that you have blown out all the primer fluid (there is a lot of primer) and when you puncture the tank, twist is around to make sure that the 'hanging chad' isn't blocking your juice from getting to the wick. And- this is important- blowing on the atty to get more juice into the wick Does Not Work. this thing feeds the atty with vacuum pressure (from you taking a drag on the pv). Without pushing the button, take 4-5 short hard draws, and watch the bubbles float up to the top. Then take a drag with the battery button pushed.
I personally -love- my tanks, and won't be going back to clearomizers anytime soon.
Good luck

 

[jameth]

Perhaps in the future I will try the tank system, but not until they resolve the loss of flavor issue.

Maybe I am just lucky, or my sense of taste is not up to snuff, but I just don't taste a difference between my tornado tank and dripping on a 510 atty from cignot.

 

[Stownz]

MAP Tank, holds 5ml

 

[wyojoe]

jameth-- I agree with you and will stay with the T-tank and will never buy cartomizers again. the carts and cartos do not use all the juice you put in them and you keep filling them all the time. The tank uses all the juice with less filling and is a close to dripping as you will ever get. So better taste ,T/H and performance. Also you know when your fluid is low with the tank and you do not with the carts or carto's. I was frustrated all the time with the carts and am so happy with the tanks, night and day for me.

 

[04 Raider Rider]

Just got my tanks yesterday and so far I really like these.Way easier than carts or clearomizers.Good vapor,decent flavor...I think these are a winner.
I'm using the Volcano Inferno,and their prices on these are good.

 

[DaveP]

After a week of vaping the Ego-T tank, I'm completely satisfied. From the first to last vape it is superb. There is no difference from tank to tank refill in taste or vapor, all are just as I hoped.

I'm still using the first tank cart and it has been in an out of the tank atty about 3 times a day. I have experienced no leaks, even when I put it in my jacket inner pocket where it's warm and expansion leakage used to occur sometimes with thin juices in the mega cylinder. I'm using mostly 70pg/30vg juices and have also vaped several tanks of 100%pg. It's all the same and the taste is great. There's little or no harshness and I like it better than the Mega cylinder in that respect. Some juices can be a tad harsh in the mega. Even those are just right with the tank.

 

[wyojoe]

The t-tank is a great system just remember underfill it, don't fill it to the top.

 

[mortios]

Am I the only psychopath on the forum that prefers my clearos to my tank atty?