Tanks vs. ego vision (stardust)

[MarissaKW]

Hey all,
I have used clearos my whole vaping life (about a year) and I reading a lot of good stuff about tanks. I tried tanks right in the beginning. They were volcanos magma tanks, made out of plastic and yeah they pretty much sucked (or maybe I sucked and didn't know what I was doing). But people seem to love tanks.

Can someone explain to me the differences between clearo's and tanks. I don't want to be missing out on something really good here because I do like clearos but I feel there is a lot to be desired. Thanks!!

Marissa

 

[Jaymzifer]

Not sure about which aspect of clearo's you think are lacking, but, Visions are so, so easy to use. Leaks are not something I have come across with Visions, the flavor comes through nicely and hey, they are pretty sharp looking to boot. They are my personal favorite for my EGO.

 

[GWG73]

The tanks themselves are secondary. I would suggest that you first try a cartomizer. If you like the taste of them over clearos, then pursue tanks...if not, you've saved yourself the money on a tank.

 

[MarissaKW]

Not sure about which aspect of clearo's you think are lacking, but, Visions are so, so easy to use. Leaks are not something I have come across with Visions, the flavor comes through nicely and hey, they are pretty sharp looking to boot. They are my personal favorite for my EGO.

I do have a couple that have hairline cracks around the base after about a week. I don't want to blame the clearos themselves because I am not really that easy on them. Usually it is shoved in my pocket and I have butter fingers. So if tanks are more durable then awesome! I do love them, but I am the type of person that wants to try all the flavors of icecream before settling on one ya know? They are nice looking for sure!

 

[MarissaKW]

The tanks themselves are secondary. I would suggest that you first try a cartomizer. If you like the taste of them over clearos, then pursue tanks...if not, you've saved yourself the money on a tank.

Ok, I have tried cartos (not sure if they were good or not but the kind volcano sells for the magma) and I wasn't a fan of the pain in the .... cleaning and such. That is one thing I love about clearos is the ease of cleaning and you know when you are low besides just the taste.

HA maybe I have answered my own question and should probably stay with clearos.

 

[ChrisGaynor]

I agree that tanks are secondary. I love my DCT, but have found that you must prime them time to time to get the "good" taste. I like the fact that you can put a lot of eJuice in them without having to refill very often.

 

[Flyer]

I agree that tanks are secondary. I love my DCT, but have found that you must prime them time to time to get the "good" taste. I like the fact that you can put a lot of eJuice in them without having to refill very often.

Should be no need to add juice to the carto from time to time. If you find the need to, then your carto is not sufficiently wicking juice from the tank. This in most cases means that the wicking material do not have enough access to the juice in the tank. You need either more or larger holes in the carto for the juice you are using. Are you using pre-punched carto's? Best to buy un-punched carto's (they're cheaper than pre-punched) and punch hole your self or slot them with a Dremel (my preferred method). Might also look into a tank system like the Vivi Nova version 2.5 (improved) that does not use cartos at all, but rebuildable atomizer heads. They should be much cheaper in the long run.

 

[bmiller70555]

just filled my nova 2.5 and man i'm impressed.

 

[Flyer]

On my first fill of the 2.5 version Vivi Nova also. My opinion is still forming, but so far so good. Tighter draw and a different (cleaner?) taste than carto/tank on the same juice.

 

[bmiller70555]

I like the tighter draw since im using a vtube. It's nice not to have a airy draw lol. I'm also vaping a 100% VG juice.

 

[MarissaKW]

I was looking at the novas. They seemed nice. I am having an issue with my vision right now where the plastic is loose around the base so it moves around a lot. I am worried it is just going to slid off. I watched a video about cleaning the and the one in the video had a metal band around the bottom of the plastic where as mine is just plastic on the bottom meeting up to the bottom metal part. Sorry I am not very technical and have no clue what these things are all called. I think that is why it is hard for me to understand what people are talking about because I am pretty vaping illiterate.

 

[GWG73]

I started out vaping with cheap 808D cartos and thought is was fine. I didn't like refilling so often, so I went on to the Smoktech 3.5 tanks. That was a disaster, as I couldn't get the juice to regularly flow into the carto without sucking my brains out. At the time, I hadn't learned about the whole carto punching thing. I moved on from there and my next venture was the Ego Mega DCC, which at first I thought was all I needed. After the decline of the performance after a couple of refills, I was looking again. Next came the Stardusts (which my wife still uses for work because they're convenient). I liked them at first, but started to feel that they muted the flavor. In the process of ordering things to try, I had ordered a box of the Boge 2.0 cartos...this was my next stop after the Stardusts. I was instantly in vape heaven with these. I loved the flavor, the vape was smooth for me, and I was happy. I found it ironic that after all the stuff I had ordered and tried, I was basically right back where I started with a simple carto. Problem was, now I was back to refilling frequently. Ugh! After learning more, I decided to go back and try tanks, but taking the Boge 2.0s with me...and I haven't looked back. I use standard length Boge 2.0 cartos in Bella Tanks, just got a Phiniac tank, and Smoktech also makes a 4.5ml tank that's not commonly sold with vendors. That one allows good volume, but still utilizing the standard length carto. I am very happy with this setup. I have gotten in on some good carto co-ops, so each carto only costs just under $.80. It's cost effective to use a carto for a week, chuck it in the trash, and slap a new one in. There's no cleanup, no maintenance, and I couldn't be happier with the vape.

The point to all this is that you just need to find what works best for you, hopefully without breaking the bank in the process. If you happen to pick up a Boge carto (or another type known for performance) and love the vape, the tank part will be easy to figure out...especially with this board. In the early days, I was all excited about the whole process of maintaining the products we were using. My wife would tell you, I was cleaning the Stardusts, got the materials to rebuild and re-wick them...its was awesome! That quickly faded, and even though i don't even bother anymore, I still clean, disassemble, and store the Stardust parts for future use/rebuilding. Now I just want to enjoy the vape, and spend as little time as I have to with the actual maintenance. For me, tanks provide that.

Hope this helps a bit more.

 

[MarissaKW]

I started out vaping with cheap 808D cartos and thought is was fine. I didn't like refilling so often, so I went on to the Smoktech 3.5 tanks. That was a disaster, as I couldn't get the juice to regularly flow into the carto without sucking my brains out. At the time, I hadn't learned about the whole carto punching thing. I moved on from there and my next venture was the Ego Mega DCC, which at first I thought was all I needed. After the decline of the performance after a couple of refills, I was looking again. Next came the Stardusts (which my wife still uses for work because they're convenient). I liked them at first, but started to feel that they muted the flavor. In the process of ordering things to try, I had ordered a box of the Boge 2.0 cartos...this was my next stop after the Stardusts. I was instantly in vape heaven with these. I loved the flavor, the vape was smooth for me, and I was happy. I found it ironic that after all the stuff I had ordered and tried, I was basically right back where I started with a simple carto. Problem was, now I was back to refilling frequently. Ugh! After learning more, I decided to go back and try tanks, but taking the Boge 2.0s with me...and I haven't looked back. I use standard length Boge 2.0 cartos in Bella Tanks, just got a Phiniac tank, and Smoktech also makes a 4.5ml tank that's not commonly sold with vendors. That one allows good volume, but still utilizing the standard length carto. I am very happy with this setup. I have gotten in on some good carto co-ops, so each carto only costs just under $.80. It's cost effective to use a carto for a week, chuck it in the trash, and slap a new one in. There's no cleanup, no maintenance, and I couldn't be happier with the vape.

The point to all this is that you just need to find what works best for you, hopefully without breaking the bank in the process. If you happen to pick up a Boge carto (or another type known for performance) and love the vape, the tank part will be easy to figure out...especially with this board. In the early days, I was all excited about the whole process of maintaining the products we were using. My wife would tell you, I was cleaning the Stardusts, got the materials to rebuild and re-wick them...its was awesome! That quickly faded, and even though i don't even bother anymore, I still clean, disassemble, and store the Stardust parts for future use/rebuilding. Now I just want to enjoy the vape, and spend as little time as I have to with the actual maintenance. For me, tanks provide that.

Hope this helps a bit more.

Thank you for this! That is kind of how I feel about the stardust, I am cleaning every other day (maybe my juice is thick or maybe I am just way flavor picky) and I gets old. Maybe I will just pickup a couple of highly recommended tanks and see. What can it hurt?

What does it mean when you say Cartos in a tank? When I used a tank from volcano is was this little plastic thing that you punched onto an atty and you drew from that. You couldn't use drip tips or mouth pieces and it sucked! Literally! Hard draw, only held about .8 ml, and tasted like plastic.

Thanks for your input and please pardon my ignorance!

 

[magentaman]

I was not happy with my Vision Stone 3 tanks. When they worked the vapor was great. When they leaked and would dry burn it sucked. I have some ViVi Nova's in route to try. My stardusts are always here for me. I have several so I can have a set cleaned and ready to fill at any time.

 

[Pappy]

Marissa, for now I'm a happy clearomizer (stardust) user. No muss, no fuss, no leaks, easy to fill, easy to see how much juice is left. I just like them.

The only issue I've had (knock on wood) is that some of them have a tight draw. I've got one with a particularly tight draw that I'm slowing butchering (drilling holes, filing air slots, etc.) to experiment on the draw. I think I've about ruined it, but at $5 a throw it's no big deal.

I do want to try the Vivi Nova tanks. I need to order one to use when my V-Tube gets here.

 

[Cloud Wizard]

I so much wanted to have Stardusts be the answer. I've gone through literally 15 of them (all resistances offered all versions except the newest rebuildables) and none have been "Awesome" for me. I've also tried Fuxos, ExTrEmEs, etc and they've either filled my mouth with juice or just didn't vape well for me (it's probably me, cause lot's of folks love them all). Any way, best setup I've found is a DCT tank with a single coil Boge carto. For whatever reason, they taste great/last at least a week and the tank lasts all day on a fill.

I think the Stardust should rock and have started experimenting with SS mesh wicks and kanthal coils, but my next gizmo is a rebuildable atty/tank.

 

[GWG73]

What does it mean when you say Cartos in a tank? When I used a tank from volcano is was this little plastic thing that you punched onto an atty and you drew from that. You couldn't use drip tips or mouth pieces and it sucked! Literally! Hard draw, only held about .8 ml, and tasted like plastic.

Thanks for your input and please pardon my ignorance!

Okay, it sounds like what you're talking about here is using an atomizer (or atty), with a cartridge (small plastic job with some filler in it) that you stuck on top of the atomizer. That wouldn't be considered a tank, just a cartridge. I'm not sure how popular those things are now a days, and I only tried to use them once.

If the above is the case, and you've only used that and stardusts, then you haven't used a cartomizer yet. A cartomizer is kind of the evolution of what you started with (please someone correct me if I'm wrong). It combines the filler and the atomizer in one unit, and adds an air tube up the center. In my opinion, that is worlds apart from what you started with.

A tank is basically just an addition to the cartomizer. It holds a reservoir of juice that, as you vape, is drawn into the cartomizer thus refilling it as you go.

Watch this video, I think it's a pretty good intro to the whole tank thing....



Those are also one of the tanks that I use. I like the smaller tanks that use regular cartomizers, rather than the dual coil cartomizers.....but that a whole different discussion. I would really recommend trying a regular cartomizer first to see if you like how they vape.

Also, just to be clear I'm not trying to take you away from Stardusts, or put them down. They're a great product, and I still use them, as does my wife. I just want to try and help you on this tank thing. I got frustrated and gave up my first round with them, so hopefully I can help keep that from happening for you.

 

[Greykin]

I started vaping on the Stardusts, and loved them at first. However, once I started dripping and playing with cartos, I realized that I was getting muted flavors out of the Stardusts.

Here's my $0.02 on the tank thing:

1. Vision Stardust: Fairly expensive per unit (~$5-$6 each), super easy and low maintenance, muted flavor
2. Cartomizers: Fairly cheap (~$1.50-$2.50 each), easy but requires you to "top off" the carto, decent flavor
3. Carto Tanks: Range from cheap to expensive depending on what tank you buy...but replacing cartos is cheap, these tanks are fiddly in my opinion, decent flavor
4. CE3 clearomizer (a.k.a. Phoenix): Fairly cheap (~$2 each), super easy and low maintenance but they do require a syringe, very good flavor.

I've been rocking the CE3s for a couple weeks now and I love them. That said, I do still drip and use j-tanks as well, but the CE3s are just fantastic IMO.

CE3 - 5 Pack
CE3 XL Clearomizers
GotVapes PHOENiX™ Bottom Coil XL 1.5ml Cartomizer 2.4-2.6ohms [gv-PHOENIX-XL-2.4-510] - $11.95 : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more

 

[Flyer]

I think I'm becoming a convert to the Vivi Nova. The first two versions supposedly had problems. I stayed away from them based on reviews here. But the newly released version 2.5 seems to be working well. I just got a couple and am very impressed so far. In a couple of tanks of juice, the taste is much cleaner than what I was getting with the tank/carto's and is providing very good vapor production. They are very easy to fill, I've had no leaks, there is no carto to prime, and they are rebuildable which makes them very economical in the long run. Just has a tighter draw than the carto/tank I was using and happy with but I think I'm getting use to that now. Definitely worth consideration.

 

[TENDERFOOT91]

I gave my Mom a new e go t kit and I had a stardust LR . She preferred the stardust said it was easy for her to see when she needed juice and liked the vapor it produced. I tryed it and would give the edge to the stardust over the reg e go attys.
But whatever works I guess. Im going to get her some more stardust since that's what she likes .
Take Care,
Don