Taping batteries together

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slickcdb2000

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Just got my vv grand in and so far I love it!!!! But.... yea there is always a but.... The 18350 batts in there i'm not crazy about, they rattle a good bit and move around a lot. What are some tips to keep them in place? Best thing I can think of tape the batts together. That will for sure keep them in place and keep the door from rattling. What about charging them? Do ya'll think with the batts together they will charge? Any other tips for my new vv grand??
 

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Just got my vv grand in and so far I love it!!!! But.... yea there is always a but.... The 18350 batts in there i'm not crazy about, they rattle a good bit and move around a lot. What are some tips to keep them in place? Best thing I can think of tape the batts together. That will for sure keep them in place and keep the door from rattling. What about charging them? Do ya'll think with the batts together they will charge? Any other tips for my new vv grand??

A piece of cardboard cut to fit between the batteries and the bottle will help hold them.

No, do not put them together and try to charge! Danger-Danger- run Will run......LOL
 

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K, sounds good! I figured putting them together and charging could possibly cause problems! I tend to ask questions first now instead of trying!!! I ruined a few good things by not asking first!!!

I'll find a piece of cardboard and put in there!

And yea i'm using imr batts. Thats just about the only batts I will use in any of my mods!
 

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Not knocking the design by no means.... but wouldn't it have made sense when this was produced to put a divider in there? Is there a reason it wasn't?

I'm very very very happy with all my reo's and probably couldn't have a normal life without them, just saying!!!!!

Edit: Just got some cardboard, put some shrink tubing on it... looks great, no movement or rattles!!! I think me and the vv grand will be a happy couple now!!! If I could just get this era to act right then it will be a happy Ménage à trois
 
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My old 16350s jiggle slightly a bit but the 18350s are a tight fit.
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Not knocking the design by no means.... but wouldn't it have made sense when this was produced to put a divider in there? Is there a reason it wasn't?

I'm very very very happy with all my reo's and probably couldn't have a normal life without them, just saying!!!!!

Yep...the reason the divider isn't there is space...it looks like there is space, but there isn't as much as you think.
 

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The rattle you hear may just be the bottle if you slide it down so the bottom of the bottle is tight to the bottom of the mod it should stop the sound you here . I have the same mod and my batteries dont roll around

It's funny hearing Rob say "I have the same mod". I did here somewhere that he has one of those bad boys :)
 

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Keep in mind when manufacturing that everything has a tolerance, because no manufacturer can make any thing perfect. It just can't be done in our world and if you really believe it looks and feels perfect, it' not. Engineers always use an allowable tolerance when designing components. The diameter of your battery may be ±0.3mm. The machined cavity depth (between the door and the back wall) may be ±0.2mm. So the tolerance of both components together is +0.5mm maximum and -0.5mm minimum. That's a difference from max. to min. of 1.0mm (approx .039 inch). Theoretically, if both components are max., then it's a tight fit. But if they are min., then it's a loose fit and the battery may slightly rattle with 1.0mm of dead space.

The tighter the tolerance, the more it costs to manufacture, because inspection time goes up. Let's say a part coming off an automatic machine would normally have inspection of certain characteristics every 10th part, but with tight tolerance work, inspection of every 5th part is required. So, inspection time doubled and that time is incorporated in the cost of the part. Fall-out (scrap parts) is inherent to manufacturing and the tighter the tolerance the more scrap there is, which means more production time and material are lost.

Why does the inspection time increase with tighter tolerances? Because there are many factors for an item to easily go out of tolerance, like tool wear, improper handling, temperature change and other factors. Some factors are predictable, but many are not.

Manufacturing is usually a trade-off between what you want (perfect) and what you can economically produce (practical). It's not uncommon in some industries where inspection time is the controlling element of an item's cost, where it cost more to inspect the item than it does for material and production time.
 
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