Tasty Vapor. Inconsistancy in a bottle.

[gopostalman]

Where do i start.

My very first purchase from tasty vapor was a 1 ounce bottle of 46mg tobacco and a doubler to match. I got the juice and i was a little dissapointed that instead of "tobacco" it tasted like "french pipe" but it wasn't that big a deal cause it was my first purchase, and french pipe technically is "tobacco flavor" so there was not much room for argument. Shortly after using this liquid, the second day actually, i noticed my atomizer was not producing vapor. I was unsure if i maybe used too much liquid and drowned the atty, or maybe not enough at points and burnt it out.. so i cleaned it with some vodka and distilled water to rinse (this is my normally cleaning technique, and it always works.) While waiting a day to dry, i pulled out a brand spanking new atty and went at it. The next day, the new atty COMPLETELY stopped producing vapor. I cleaned out the atty and set it to dry, then decided to try the other atomizer to see if the cleaning did anything. Added my juice, tried to start smoking it, and nothing. I took a 4 second drag, it gave me a half second of vapor. I then opened ANOTHER BRAND NEW atomizer and started smoking some of eliquidplanet menthol liquid. HUGE VAPOR CLOUDS! I went back to tasty vapor tobacco.. NO VAPOR. within THAT DAY the 3rd atomizer stopped producing vapor.
That vapor single handedly ruined 2 brand new attys.. the first one was about a week old.

So i threw my 30 dollar investment out.. because it just broke my attys. I then ordered another bottle, thinking "maybe i made a mistake ordering all PG liquid". So i got butterfinger. This is a juice that when i opened it, smelled like pure butterfingers, but when i vaped it, tasted like complete crap. Like i can't even put in words how bad it tasted, however, it didn't screw up my attys, and i was out of eliquidplanet juice, so i decided to see if the taste got better as i smoked. naw.. it doesn't. second bottle down the drain.
Third bottle.. my buddy tells me "man you can't go wrong with apple cinnamon" so i buy a bottle of apple cinnamon. WOW does that taste amazing! It was like a mouthful of apples and cinnamon. Probably the tastiest vape i've had yet. I decided that this flavor would be my fall back flavor incase i got any other liquides that tasted horrible.
I then buy a bottle of Tobacco and a bottle of "Apple Pie" which caught my eye on the homepage of tastyvapor.us. What i got in the mail was Tobbaco, and Apple Tobacco. Now i can't confirm it, but i'm pretty sure he used the same utensils or bottles or SOME HOW got tobacco in my apple pie, because IN NO WAY is "APPLE PIE" supposed to taste ANYTHING like "FRENCH PIPE" and french pipe tobacco is a distinct smell/taste, you know it's french pipe.
NOT TO MENTION the apple pie had such an AWFUL smell that i couldn't even open it without getting sick. So that would be bottle #3 thrown out.

SO WHAT DO I DO? I buy more liquid from tasty vapor. I decide to use my "fall back" and buy apple cinnamon. I bought a doubler of apple cin, and a 48mg nic apple cin. I received it TODAY.. and man.. my FALL BACK IS NOW NULL IN VOID! Cause this doesn't taste like ANYTHING. Like you can smell some apple in the doubler, but the 48mg nic doesn't smell like ANYTHING. And taste? NOTHING. No cinnamon, MAYBE A HINT of apple, but i really can't tell if that's sweetness from the "APPLE" or sweetness from the PG/VG.

Being there are no refunds , it has always just crossed me that there is nothing i can do, but after ordering 4 times, and getting 3 bottles of complete ...., i have wasted more than 75 dollars into liquid i threw out. Maybe i can't really argue about flavors like butterfinger, yea it was a 50/50 chance it was good or bad.. but to get apple cinnamon once, and have it taste great, and to get it a second time, and have it taste like im smoking pure PG/VG liquid with no flavor, this is just inconsistent bs. I expect my juice to taste CLOSE to the same. This is a joke.

Yea i e-mailed Geoff this time, with pretty much the same thing i just wrote in here, still doesn't matter since he doesn't offer any sort of refund "because you don't like the taste" even though it has nothing to do with just me not liking the taste but rather how his juice tastes different each time you order it.

 

[Belletrist]

Where do I start? I'm sorry you've had a bad experience. I'm pretty surprised. Did you email and ask about the second order of apple cinn to start with? Or did you only send this essay long rant? No, TV doesn't offer refunds based on taste, but you could have asked, politely, if there was some chance of a mistake.

With the premium flavors, especially, it's always wise to let them sit for a week or two if you don't like them right away. Did you try that with apple pie or tastyfinger? It makes a big difference for certain flavors.

As for the all-PG juices, they do not produce much vapor at all. I can't speak to TV's effect on atties as I use cartos mainly, but there are plenty of TV fans who use atomizers. Atties are, notoriously, something of a gamble. Did all three of those atties come from the same supplier? I'm curious to know why you think the TV tobacco ruined them. I understand that it probably wasn't producing much vapor, being all PG, but I find it hard to believe it destroyed them. It's e-juice, not hydrochloric acid.

 

[sentrarob]

Where do i start.

My very first purchase from tasty vapor was a 1 ounce bottle of 46mg tobacco and a doubler to match. I got the juice and i was a little dissapointed that instead of "tobacco" it tasted like "french pipe" but it wasn't that big a deal cause it was my first purchase, and french pipe technically is "tobacco flavor" so there was not much room for argument. Shortly after using this liquid, the second day actually, i noticed my atomizer was not producing vapor. I was unsure if i maybe used too much liquid and drowned the atty, or maybe not enough at points and burnt it out.. so i cleaned it with some vodka and distilled water to rinse (this is my normally cleaning technique, and it always works.) While waiting a day to dry, i pulled out a brand spanking new atty and went at it. The next day, the new atty COMPLETELY stopped producing vapor. I cleaned out the atty and set it to dry, then decided to try the other atomizer to see if the cleaning did anything. Added my juice, tried to start smoking it, and nothing. I took a 4 second drag, it gave me a half second of vapor. I then opened ANOTHER BRAND NEW atomizer and started smoking some of eliquidplanet menthol liquid. HUGE VAPOR CLOUDS! I went back to tasty vapor tobacco.. NO VAPOR. within THAT DAY the 3rd atomizer stopped producing vapor.
That vapor single handedly ruined 2 brand new attys.. the first one was about a week old.

So i threw my 30 dollar investment out.. because it just broke my attys. I then ordered another bottle, thinking "maybe i made a mistake ordering all PG liquid". So i got butterfinger. This is a juice that when i opened it, smelled like pure butterfingers, but when i vaped it, tasted like complete crap. Like i can't even put in words how bad it tasted, however, it didn't screw up my attys, and i was out of eliquidplanet juice, so i decided to see if the taste got better as i smoked. naw.. it doesn't. second bottle down the drain.
Third bottle.. my buddy tells me "man you can't go wrong with apple cinnamon" so i buy a bottle of apple cinnamon. WOW does that taste amazing! It was like a mouthful of apples and cinnamon. Probably the tastiest vape i've had yet. I decided that this flavor would be my fall back flavor incase i got any other liquides that tasted horrible.
I then buy a bottle of Tobacco and a bottle of "Apple Pie" which caught my eye on the homepage of tastyvapor.us. What i got in the mail was Tobbaco, and Apple Tobacco. Now i can't confirm it, but i'm pretty sure he used the same utensils or bottles or SOME HOW got tobacco in my apple pie, because IN NO WAY is "APPLE PIE" supposed to taste ANYTHING like "FRENCH PIPE" and french pipe tobacco is a distinct smell/taste, you know it's french pipe.
NOT TO MENTION the apple pie had such an AWFUL smell that i couldn't even open it without getting sick. So that would be bottle #3 thrown out.

SO WHAT DO I DO? I buy more liquid from tasty vapor. I decide to use my "fall back" and buy apple cinnamon. I bought a doubler of apple cin, and a 48mg nic apple cin. I received it TODAY.. and man.. my FALL BACK IS NOW NULL IN VOID! Cause this doesn't taste like ANYTHING. Like you can smell some apple in the doubler, but the 48mg nic doesn't smell like ANYTHING. And taste? NOTHING. No cinnamon, MAYBE A HINT of apple, but i really can't tell if that's sweetness from the "APPLE" or sweetness from the PG/VG.

Being there are no refunds , it has always just crossed me that there is nothing i can do, but after ordering 4 times, and getting 3 bottles of complete ...., i have wasted more than 75 dollars into liquid i threw out. Maybe i can't really argue about flavors like butterfinger, yea it was a 50/50 chance it was good or bad.. but to get apple cinnamon once, and have it taste great, and to get it a second time, and have it taste like im smoking pure PG/VG liquid with no flavor, this is just inconsistent bs. I expect my juice to taste CLOSE to the same. This is a joke.

Yea i e-mailed Geoff this time, with pretty much the same thing i just wrote in here, still doesn't matter since he doesn't offer any sort of refund "because you don't like the taste" even though it has nothing to do with just me not liking the taste but rather how his juice tastes different each time you order it.

So sorry to hear, I have never had a problem wit Geoff's liquid.

 

[gopostalman]

Where do I start? I'm sorry you've had a bad experience. I'm pretty surprised. Did you email and ask about the second order of apple cinn to start with? Or did you only send this essay long rant? No, TV doesn't offer refunds based on taste, but you could have asked, politely, if there was some chance of a mistake.

With the premium flavors, especially, it's always wise to let them sit for a week or two if you don't like them right away. Did you try that with apple pie or tastyfinger? It makes a big difference for certain flavors.

As for the all-PG juices, they do not produce much vapor at all. I can't speak to TV's effect on atties as I use cartos mainly, but there are plenty of TV fans who use atomizers. Atties are, notoriously, something of a gamble. Did all three of those atties come from the same supplier? I'm curious to know why you think the TV tobacco ruined them. I understand that it probably wasn't producing much vapor, being all PG, but I find it hard to believe it destroyed them. It's e-juice, not hydrochloric acid.

Well all of my e liquid has been 100% PG besides TV's because obviously the first bottle i bought wasn't a good experience, so i've been getting 20%vg mixed from there. I don't see any difference in vapor clouds from my eliquidplanet 100%pg and my last apple/cin 20%vg 80%/pg, infact my BEST vapor clouds came from a Totally Wicked juice, and im pretty sure TW is all PG mixures, so i'm not sure that is really a problem, unless only with TV's all PG liquids.

Indeed i started my day with a rant to Geoff's e-mail. I was FUMING when i got my order. Consistency is part of a Business. Even my buddy's apple/cinn tasted WAY different than my first bottle. Mine was much sweeter, more apple taste, his was more cinnamon-"ee", again my recently purchased bottle of apple cinn tastes like literally nothing. Like i'm smoking pure VG, and i know what that tastes like since i was curious after buying a 4 oz bottle of VG from Geoff to fix my first problem, which it did not. The same "flavor" shouldn't be different every time, there is no way you can justify that as a "good deal" without justifying that he handmakes all his liquids and no one is perfect, which in that case maybe a more refined solution to how he mixes should be thought of.. plenty of people invent new ideas to create efficient production.. look at dunkin donuts jelly filler, ingenious.
I couldn't imagine letting it sit for a week or two is going to do anything for this juice, as the candy flavoring he uses is QUITE strong; i use lorann oils in my bakery, but miracles happen so i guess i'll try that and see.
I thank you for the info.

 

[keveck]

1) Like bella said, let the tastyfinger sit. I'm not sure how you could think it tastes awful. It tastes exactly like a butterfinger to me.

2) I don't believe that you actually threw them out. If you put them in the classifieds, they would have sold.

3) I put a TV tobacco/menthol mix through my atty's regularly and have not had any problems. I'm not discrediting you, just saying that I haven't had any issues. What PV are you using?

4) I'm not sure if this was a mistake or not, but the first time you mentioned 'apple cinnamon' and the second time you mentioned 'apple pie'. Then you stated that they taste different.

 

[lairkeeper]

I've had TV flavors that I didn't really care for but none that had no taste. I've had the straight apple and it was a light flavor but it did strengthen over time.

Man, don't toss anymore of that liquid. Use some of that Loranne's you've got on hand and fix it up at least.

 

[gopostalman]

1)
4) I'm not sure if this was a mistake or not, but the first time you mentioned 'apple cinnamon' and the second time you mentioned 'apple pie'. Then you stated that they taste different.

ahh no i bought apple cin the first time, it was awesome, then i bought apple pie hoping for something good with an apple taste but got apple tobacco, THEN i bought another apple cin like the first time, and my first bottle and this bottle don't taste at all the same. Well this bottle doesn't have a taste.

I use a few Titan Mega's and a Tornado. I only use 510 attys, i personally like them more than any of the others.
And i actually did let the butterfinger sit for a good 2 weeks, this whole post was really within the past 3 months. When i bought the apple cin the first time, i had a little more than half a bottle of the bf juice and i used all my apple/cin and ordered again, and figured i would use that BF i never finished so i didn't buy cigs, and it tasted exactly the same.
The butterfinger juice is the ONLY juice i didn't throw out (obviously the apple cin too) the first order i am quite sure killed 2 brand new attys and was tossed, and the apple pie was IMMEDIATELY thrown away... ain't NO ONE gonna like apple and french pipe.. the smell alone was comparable to motor oil and apples in an oven.

Yea lair, i'm working on fixing my apple cin since i have the flavors. I wasn't aware he was using these flavors in the juice until i saw it on the order page today.

 

[rfun6]

Oh don't throw any of the juice out. Just post it in the TV trade or sell section. I'm sure that people will snap it up from you. Also if you happen to take the plunge and order again. You could state in the comments part to "Turn up the Flavor" whichever flavor you want stronger. It might be that you like more flavor. I know I like mine kinda strong myself.
Any flavor that you get from any vendor don't throw it out. Just post it for sale or trade and someone will want it.

 

[Kimmy]

Sometimes atties are bad. Depending on where you get them from, THEY can be very inconsistent. If this happened to me, I don't think I could ever see myself blaming the juice, I would blame it on a hardware malfunction. TV has great juice, and I'm pretty sure he's not putting in a secret special ingredient that kills atomizers.

Things do happen though, I've had flavors from various vendors that tasted one way one time, and another way another. Sometimes there are different mixers, mistakes, you could even have a sinus infection, or getting sick, which could affect your sense of taste! And sometimes, tastes change. Things I liked very much in the beginning I don't like much anymore. All kinds of different factors could be at play here! Never chuck juice as others have said, somewhere someone will like it. Everyone's taste buds are different. Best of luck in your endeavors. =) There is a reason though Geoff's juice is highly respected & popular! Don't give up.

 

[chainvapor]

I do like Geoffs juices, but I have to admit to the Vapor thing. I am not saying he does this, cause I have no proof. But I think he uses WAY too much water or alcohol to cut his juices. The reason for this? Even straight PG juices have some thickness to them and my 20% VG mixes are like water. Very thin. I also noticed that I can take a bottle of Ms Ts or DIY Flavorshack and vape HUGE clouds, but with Geoffs I get "ok" clouds but nothing to write home about. Not sure about this, but I cannot believe his juice would be as thin as it is with 20% VG if it was not also 40% water?? Just my opinion. I still buy his juices and love the flavors, so please do not get me wrong, I am a Tasty Vapor supporter. But if he made his juices a little thicker, I think every one would like them more. Just my 2 cents.. Happy Vaping!!

 

[stevej21]

Sometimes atties are bad. Depending on where you get them from, THEY can be very inconsistent. If this happened to me, I don't think I could ever see myself blaming the juice, I would blame it on a hardware malfunction. TV has great juice, and I'm pretty sure he's not putting in a secret special ingredient that kills atomizers.

X2. You gotta remember that atty's are mechanical and with all things mechanical, comes failure. Sucks you lost two that fast, I'm actually running through a bad batch myself. All repeat orders I have gotten from TV have all tasted the same, maybe just a bad coincidence.

 

[Mr. Tasty Vapor]

Okay, where do I START?

Are you angry with Tasty Vapor? Or mad at yourself that it took you $90 in gradual purchases to figure out, you don't like our liquids Gopostalman?

At no point do we EVER say that every single person who vapes our product is going to love it.

Also, you seem to be having problems with all of the liquids that everybody else doesn't seem to have a problem with, save a few people, and they seem to find the grace to contact us before deciding it's a better course of action to hold us up for public scrutiny.

While machinery should always be a consideration, I don't seem to hear any accountability that your tastebuds might have something to do with things.

Also, this is the FIRST time any of us here at Tasty Vapor have heard about your situation. Why are you waiting until you've wracked up $90 in "bad purchases" to have a problem? You could have also written to us directly and asked if there were any options before just considering blasting us on our forum trying to make it seem like we singled you out for selling "bad liquid".

I'm still amazed at the fact that you spent $90 to come to the conclusion that you don't like our stuff. Hell, if I didn't like some products I got from a site, I would have stopped purchasing there instantly. But we haven't gotten where we are today because we sell bad liquid. In fact we get an enormous amount of blessings, kudos, thanks, etc. This is because we apparently sell a great deal of products that people DO like.

But we've apparently singled you out to sell bad stuff, right?

Are you looking for a solution to your problem? Or did you just think it a better idea to broadcast your problem on this forum not caring about a solution at all?

 

[keveck]

I agree with the 4 purchases thing. If I had bought something once and didn't like it, I would stop buying from that place. I wouldn't try 3 more times, then post 15 times about how I didn't like it, how much money I wasted, how you should never buy from TV...etc.
I've never had a problem with TV.

The only thing extraordinary that has ever happened to me when ordering from TV is that I made a poorly concocted custom flavor; Geoff fixed my recipe and made it a premium flavor on the site.

 

[Firegrl]

Doesn't make sense to me personally. I always order watermelon and atomic and they have always tasted the same. I was even concerned they would taste different this time around because the color of both were much different than my first batch (watermelon was VERY hot pink and atomic was a neon pee yellow instead of mellow yellow), but nope, they taste exactly the same.

And I have a VERY picky tongue. One the pickiest eaters and tasters I know. I have come to find that some of the TV liquids have to sit for a week or two. I just got strawberry vanilla that tasted like chemicals the second I got it, but now has a perfect strawberry vanilla flavor, although it is quite muted. Second trick for flavors that I don't like: add atomic. Same strawberry vanilla is a very muted flavor, but I add a few drops (maybe 3 or 4) of atomic to each cart, and MAGIC it tastes like a VERY flavorful strawberry vanilla with NO atomic taste. I really don't even vape atomic on its own anymore, I just add it to other flavors to make them stronger. My fave is still watermelon/atomic, cafe mocha/atomic, and now strawberry vanilla/atomic.

Let the flavors sit or mix and match to find what you like. Haven't been dissatisfied yet!

 

[SaltoftheEarth]

I agree Firegrl. I find TV flavor very consistent, aside from the first week or two on some flavors. But you can clearly tell that the juice is maturing into an even better juice, so no one would complain about that.

I find the vapor production very consistent as well. No big surprises and no big changes. Just a solid and dependable product that tastes great. The notion of TV juice as an Atty Killer is absurd IMO.

 

[beecee]

I have to say that I have liked every flavor of TV that I have gotten but there are flavors that I would rather trade for something new.

You should have let them sit for a while, throwing them out was a waste of money...not buying them because you had made the decision to make the purchase even after your own bad experience. I don't understand why you tossed 'em. You must have been pretty angry (although I don't think I would throw away 15 bucks if I got angry).

Probably best to stick with what you like. I don't like dekang juice or *insert non-supporting supplier here* after ordering them once, I didn't go ahead and order more of it.

Good luck in your liquid finding adventures. So sorry that you don't like TV, I personally give TV much of my paycheck every month and will continue to.

(psst TV, thank you for keeping me off the analogs by providing tasty liquids)

 

[crand]

There is no question that finding the juice that is right for you can be a long and expensive journey. I wish I had a dime for every dollar's worth of juice I've tossed. I've tried product that is raved about by many and hated them. I've stumbled on others that I've never read anything about and loved them. The one thing that seems to be true however is that most if not all eventually settle on a product or products that work for them.
I've personally enjoyed the majority of juices I've ordered from TV including a couple that have been mentioned. Unlike most, I order mine with the highest VG mix available and have been most pleased with the vapor it produces. So if you order from Geoff again or move on to another supplier you may want to consider upping the VG%.
Best of luck on your hunt.

 

[Lina]

I agree taste is VERY subjective... I have bought all my juice based on reviews up here. I guess I have been very lucky to have had this board for reference. That said though... I did not like several vendor juices ... and these were vendors that got RAVE reviews.


Since I quit analogs in Feb. I had been searching for that 1 go to vendor. I have tried many now.. and I am choosing TV because they have most of what I like and while many others can be good... I feel TV is more of a gourmet vendor and Tasty Vapor is my preference and who I want to order from so I have been gathing many samples from the kind people up here so I know which juices to buy from TV to get stocked up.

My husband on the other hand does not like Tasty Vapor... however I am thinking he will come around as his taste buds change. To me they are the BEST vendor... and I only had a couple favorites from other vendors but to satisfy those cravings I plan on talking to Geoff to make those flavors for me

DO NOT ever throw out TV juice... you will never have a problem selling it on here because I think it is one of .. if not the MOST sought after juice. You could have recouped your $90 investment or close to it anyway!

 

[dgreen]

I tried quite a few TV juices and a lot of them I didn't care for, not because they are bad juices, they just didn't agree with my taste buds. The problem is just because I didn't like a certain juice form TV doesn't mean I would stop ordering because every juice I tried from him has amazing flavor. But its the few juices I did like that make it worth it..

FYI - Throwing juice away is like pouring a half drank beer out, YOU JUST DON'T DO IT. Someone probably would have bought it from you or traded something for it...

 

[MastiffMike]

How much for the half bottle of warm beer?