Tea bag/tea filters.... which and where and who and how?

[sattec]

I just did two carts for an 801...perfect! This is way better than the spring mod....long lasting, no juice spilling, no springs. I dripped 15 drops into the "cart" before I slid the filler (rolled up) into the cart, then dripped another 5 or 6 in to top it off .....I love it! I used 3/4 of a sheet (cut in half, long ways) in these carts, I'm gonna try a 1/2 sheet next...

 

[RenaissancePuffer]

I just did two carts for an 801...perfect! This is way better than the spring mod....long lasting, no juice spilling, no springs. I dripped 15 drops into the "cart" before I slid the filler (rolled up) into the cart, then dripped another 5 or 6 in to top it off .....I love it! I used 3/4 of a sheet (cut in half, long ways) in these carts, I'm gonna try a 1/2 sheet next...

Im assuming you're doing the single roll in your carts? Let me know how you like it, and just for kicks, try what I've done with the double rolls, and let me know what you think works better. I'm still experimenting on my end, but so far so good.

 

[Stehle]

I would not ever believe I would ever utter this phrase:

"I'm a half sheet folded roller and I like it!"

(What will the grand children think if they hear me?)

 

[RenaissancePuffer]

Single roll in the 801 carts seems to be just too lose, liquid runs into the atomizer almost like a drip (which is GOOD) but the problem is the liquid will go through to the bottom side of the atomizer. Double roll seems good, but my biggest gripe with all of these wicks so far are the lack of draining the juice from the material good enough. It seems like there's always 4-5 drips of liquid (or more) left in the material when the atomizer starts tasting like it's out of juice. I just don't like wasting any liquid, perhaps my solution is going to become a dripper, I just don't want to deal with the constant dripping to keep vaping.

 

[sattec]

Just don't use an old teabag that already made tea...you will get a bitter taste from the tea residual in the fabric...use new tea bags only. To test "what the deal is with a new batch of mixed juice?". Just pull off the cart on an 801 and use the ecig without the cart...just drip a few drops into the atty, take the filler out of the "burn cycle", this is a good way to find out exactly what your juice taste like without any "voodoo" from your filler....

 

[laurel099]

So I've been reading this and trying all the different stuffing suggestions... Thanks for all the info people! I think I found my perfect fill here finally!

I'm currently using a SD Mini which is a 901 I think... Have a classic SD too but haven't tried with that yet.

I followed the teabag videos - roll up, fold in half, stuff, trim... I experimented with rolling looser/tighter/etc since I wasn't quite getting it. Tried the regular tea bags and the pyramid teabags.

I finally made a combo - took a pyramid teabag and layed a smaller piece of regular teabag on it and then rolled, folded, stuffed, trimmed. At the last moment I decided to make a snip at the folded bit since it is SO dense I thought maybe a snip would help. I don't know if it makes a difference or not really.

Holy moley!! It made the Best draw I've ever had on my SD... I LOVE the way it wicks but doesn't run, goes longer before I'm topping up and I'm tickled to death!! Used it since last night and it's still just as good as when I started...

Thanks for all the pointers... I'm a really happy camper now

 

[laurel099]

Too funny... I looked at my siggy banner and noted 18 days/18 hours and noted that RenaissancePuffer is right there with me EXACTLY to the hour!! That's pretty cool! Keep up the good work!!!

 

[sattec]

Thanks for all the pointers... I'm a really happy camper now

that's the way it goes...keep trying everybody, find the "roll and stuff" you like to get great hits! I'm still playing around with different fold, roll and stuffs.....I folded one like the letter "m" and that made a little valley for the high bridge atty to stick into during the heat up....just make the v part about 1/4 inch deep....works good.....it's the FOLD/ROLL.... thats the key...

 

[Bek76]

I've totally changed my tune on the ptb's. At first, I wasn't really all that impressed, but I've come to realize that using the whole bag makes all the difference. I was cutting them in half before, and that just made a mess.

My method is rolling a bag from both ends, and folding in half, so I end up with 4 separate "tubes". Produces massive vapor and throat hit, and tastes great!

Excellent discovery, guys. This is so awesome!

 

[metapuff]

This is from bizzyb0t
There's been some recent developments in cart filler materials. Tea bags made of hemp (I use nylon gossamer teabags with great results, personally), coffee filters, etc.

Since Nylon melts at 350+ F and Polyester melts at 255+ F, I figured it was a smart choice. You heard it here first

Someone else came up with using tea bags in general, but I came up with using rolled strips of nylon gossamer. For one, wicking is out of this world, durable, doesn't melt when touching a really hot atomizer bridge like polyester and washable/reusable. Holds the juice without trying to keep it.

I have been using these the past week or so and they work great, they don't seem to wear out.

i assume the nylon gossamer you're referring to is the lipton pyramids every is using?

i'm trying to find some solid info on the lipton material.

this from another forum on lipton pyramid bags:

"The translucent Pyramid tea bag is made of PET, the same food grade material clear water and juice bottles are made of. As with any plastic, it would not be considered biodegradable. PET is completely safe and is 100% recyclable within the plastics waste stream"

ok. search for pet. wikipedia

Polyethylene terephthalate (sometimes written poly(ethylene terephthalate)), commonly abbreviated PET, PETE, or the obsolete PETP or PET-P), is a thermoplastic polymer resin of the polyester family and is used in synthetic fibers family; beverage, food and other liquid containers; thermoforming applications; and engineering resins often in combination with glass fiber.




seems the burning temp of this plastic is 260 degrees celcius.


what is the temp of the atomizer heating to?


people are referring to the pyramid bags as "nylon" is that the same as pet plastic?

 

[Stehle]

Over 3 weeks no burning observed or bad burnt taste noted.

7 or more rinses on same cart PTB filler.

More great refills and top ups than I could keep track of.

Draw, Hit, Vapor, Flavor all still great.

Still find PTBs an acceptable risk for me.

(I'm changing this carts PTB now... not because I have to, but just because I want to.)

My trial is over as far as I can see, yours may just be beginning, but I'll always keep an eye on this thread.

Thanks Guys!

 

[RenaissancePuffer]

Ok, decided to give this another go! All of you success stories are posing a challenge to me not to give up

I *think* that I have figured out the problem. It's me. I've been putting too much liquid in the cart with the PTB filler (suprise suprise). Also...I've been trying to power vape on my Janty Stick, so I've changed my methods a bit in hopes that a) I won't flood my atomizer out, b) I'll be able to keep the PTB from prematurely drying out, in hopes that c) I'll eventually dry out the PTB, or at least, come closer than I have with other fillers.

So, a couple of adjustments. I took 1 PTB, rolled it tightly to start, then looser as I roll, fold directly in half, then place the filler in the 801 cart, with the "carpet rolls" on the buldging portions of the 801 cart, and the fold is somewhere down near the resevoir at the bottom (not sure if it's tucked down in there or not, I suspect it's not, but I cant tell). Obviously with a full PTB, it's sticking out of the top of my cart, so I pull it about 1mm out of the cart and trim it flush with the top of the cart with scissors, then press the PTB filler back down into cart.

I put 4 drops in to start, rotating one drop into each of the "carpet rolls". I then tilt the cart upside down to look for excess fluid. I do this over and over until I get to 16 drops, then put 2 more drops in to see if I get any leakage, and it seems at about 18 drops, it's starting to flow from the cart. So, it seems I can get about 16 drops in.

Now, another change that I've made is, instead of power hitting my Janty Stick, I'll press the switch, pull the vapors into my cheeks for 5 seconds, release the button, then inhale the vapor. If I want a bigger hit of vapor, I do this a second time.

My old method was just to redline until I get blinks (yeah, I know, I used to drive a WRX, what can I say, it's fun to push the limits!). Not only was I drying out the top of the atomizer prematurely, but I was likely also flooding the bottom of the atomizer as well.

I've been trying to give each thing at least a full day, if not more, before I give in, but this may just be it. Will post back tomorrow, but this may be the solution to the 801 dilema. Combination of filler type, PV draw method, and number of drops to fill the cart.

 

[nwofoxhound]

OK So I finally bout some PTB and started fiddling around with it. I felt that originally, I would get good vape and flavor, but my drops would only last like 5 vapes... This is a mixture of me vaping it too hard and a lot of liquid staying towards the bottom of the PTB cart, as opposed to making contact or being near the top.

So In order to retain liquid at the top, why not just put a little bit of polyfil in between the PTB Glossamer while you are rolling it. Just follow the picture:

A) Shows the PTB like it would be normally, then put a tiny piece of polyfil towards the left and a little above center. Then wrap/roll the nylon as you would normally, making sure to get the polyfil in the roll. Then just follow the same procedure.

B) Shows a folded PTB ready to be inserted in cart. Just insert cart, optimize size and puff away. I have yet to try it out, just another concept.


I WOULD think that the polyfil towards the top would hold a lot of liquid and at the same time, never really make contact with the atomizer, thus no burning!

 

[Kameleon]

What are UK people using instead of Lipton pyramid bags? If you can get them in this country please let me know where. I did a bit of Googling and figured that as Lipton and PG Tips are both Unilever brands PG Pyramid bags should be the same. Watching the Lipton video though it would appear to be a completely different material, translucent and fine whereas the PG material is much more like a normal teabag.

I tried out the PG Tips bags (carpet rolled, no fold, probably used about 3/5ths of the bag before cutting it off) and it would only take about 10 drops and vapour production is far less than the polyfill that came with my 510 carts. Any Brits have suggestions?

 

[blackbug]

What are UK people using instead of Lipton pyramid bags? If you can get them in this country please let me know where.

Tesco

I've got them there, and I know of one other person who has.

And yes, they're totally different to PG paper bags.

 

[vaporich]

I want to give a big thanks to Robert and Bigbob for being quick with detailed answers. Thanks, guys!

I would also be quite remiss if I didn't say "Thanks!" to bizzyb0t who first led many of us in this direction.

I learn so much everyday from all of you.

I would like to second that motion. Being that I really like using the pyramid tea bags.

 

[RenaissancePuffer]

Pyramid tea bags are working great so far. I dont know if you can really drain these empty as they seem to hang onto some liquid, but they wick extremely well, which is a huge improvement over the polyfill...

One thing that I still struggle with is getting the right amount of liquid in the 801 cart. The size is probably the biggest obsticle, so there's a lot of room for liquid to flow down the cart. I still get some liquid through the mouthpiece if I warm the cart up enough. It just seems to flow real easily.

I also havent found the perfect way to fill the cart with the PTB's. I have tried the single sheet rolled up, with another single roll in the middle (giving 3 carpet rolls in the cart), then cut down to just about 1mm below the top of the cart. It almost seems like that may be too tight, and the wicking just isint there.

Anyone else been using the PTB's on 801 carts? Looking to do some brainstorming or find out what the best method is

 

[piomode]

I couldn't find the Lipton Pyramids at Shop-Rite, Pathmark, or Acme. Then I went to Target and they had like 10 varieties, on sale @ $2.50.

Gonna give it a shot!

 

[MaxUT]

Tesco

I've got them there, and I know of one other person who has.

And yes, they're totally different to PG paper bags.

Lipton tea exported to England?!

Next they'll be selling Jack Daniels in Scotland...

 

[blackbug]

Lipton tea exported to England?!

Next they'll be selling Jack Daniels in Scotland...

Lipton was a British company, originally from Scotland coincidently.