Tea bag/tea filters.... which and where and who and how?

[Bek76]

No, Stehle, you're right. There's a really funky taste in the coffee filters.

And the pyamids aren't doing it for me. I'm just missing that "natural" flavor that I was getting with the batting (sans the burnt poly strands).

So, I decided to get...a little too creative, I don't know. :S

I went down to Home Depot and got a nylon fiber paint brush. I figured that the brush material would "hug" the wick really well. And it's nylon, so it has a higher heat tolerance, and it's liquid friendly. Brushes are a little expensive, and I'm not sure about the re-usablilty or chemical content, but we'll get into that in a second. (EDIT: I spent $5 on a two pack of brushes (a 2" and a 3"), which is probably good for several dozen stuffings, if you utilize the material correctly).

The end of the brush was a little scraggly, so I cut off about a half inch, to get to the better fibers. I slid a cart over the bristles, and cut it off at the end. Then I slid a straw, cut to a point, down into the center of the cart. Filled to the rim, with the rich taste of Brim...flavored e-liquid, and away I went.

As expected, it wicks spectacularly, and the vapor and throat hit are awesome! The flavor is better than I was getting with the Pyramids, but not as great as the batting...

Oop, nevermind. I found my first stray fiber (which was my biggest concern). I went about an hour without a problem, but here we are. The cart is bone dry, and the fibers are a little long, so maybe that's the problem. BTW, there was no ****ty taste, just a long fiber sticking out of the atomizer. Which is too much for my satisfaction.

So, I'll post my failure, for the sake of research, and maybe I'll try to work with this a little bit more. Damnit, I thought was on to something...

 

[DevDoc]

Not certain why the pyramids are affecting your flavor at all considering there makeup. I've used them on 510's 401's and rn4081's with great success(vapor, flavor, and throat hit). Its weird how we seem to get different results doing much the same thing. Sorry to hear they're not working for you.

 

[Stehle]

No, Stehle, you're right. There's a really funky taste in the coffee filters.

And the pyamids aren't doing it for me. I'm just missing that "natural" flavor that I was getting with the batting (sans the burnt poly strands).

So, I decided to get...a little too creative, I don't know. :S

I went down to Home Depot and got a nylon fiber paint brush. I figured that the brush material would "hug" the wick really well. And it's nylon, so it has a higher heat tolerance, and it's liquid friendly. Brushes are a little expensive, and I'm not sure about the re-usablilty or chemical content, but we'll get into that in a second. (EDIT: I spent $5 on a two pack of brushes (a 2" and a 3"), which is probably good for several dozen stuffings, if you utilize the material correctly).

The end of the brush was a little scraggly, so I cut off about a half inch, to get to the better fibers. I slid a cart over the bristles, and cut it off at the end. Then I slid a straw, cut to a point, down into the center of the cart. Filled to the rim, with the rich taste of Brim...flavored e-liquid, and away I went.

As expected, it wicks spectacularly, and the vapor and throat hit are awesome! The flavor is better than I was getting with the Pyramids, but not as great as the batting...

Oop, nevermind. I found my first stray fiber (which was my biggest concern). I went about an hour without a problem, but here we are. The cart is bone dry, and the fibers are a little long, so maybe that's the problem. BTW, there was no ****ty taste, just a long fiber sticking out of the atomizer. Which is too much for my satisfaction.

So, I'll post my failure, for the sake of research, and maybe I'll try to work with this a little bit more. Damnit, I thought was on to something...

On the contrary Bek76, your creativity, ingenuity and determination should be applauded!

We all strive to make something better. That is human nature, but I always saluted those that took on that initiative, regardless of outcome.

We value your efforts, if you'd like to, keep at it!

 

[ZIRO]

just bought some pyramids today because I've been having bad luck with tea bags and coffee filters. I can add about 8 drops of liquid into my 510 cart, and the thing keeps on vaping. very satisfying and no weird taste thus far. if anything weird comes up, then I'll post about it.

 

[Bigbob]

Thats all I do, roll them loosely, put in cart and cut to size. Don't use too much or it will affect the draw.

I don't understand how the filler material affects the draw. The carts for my 510 are only open towards the atomizer. The drawn air does not circulate through the filler material. It flows around the sides of the cup.

Are the other models different?

 

[Bek76]

On the contrary Bek76, your creativity, ingenuity and determination should be applauded!

We all strive to make something better. That is human nature, but I always saluted those that took on that initiative, regardless of outcome.

We value your efforts, if you'd like to, keep at it!

Hey, thanks a lot Stehle! I really appreciate that! We'll find that "holy grail" of cart stuffing eventually.

 

[Stehle]

Hey, thanks a lot Stehle! I really appreciate that! We'll find that "holy grail" of cart stuffing eventually.

Indeed we shall!

 

[Junebug]

Does anyone read Japanese? I would like to know if this is safe to use as a cart filler. I did pick up a box of the Lipton Pyramid tea, but since I have several packages of this and they are cheaper and empty, I thought it might work.

 

[Circuit]

So my poly-fill was wearing out, and I thought I'd give the pyramid bags a shot until I can get some hemp bags (considerably harder to find in a brick and mortar), and...

WOW, these things aren't even comparable to the poly-fill! I was learning to be careful with the poly-fill when taking a draw. It had a tendency to leak liquid into the mouthpiece, and onto my tongue. Tingly...and not in a good way. These tea bags have completely eliminated that issue, and I'm getting good clouds of vapor! MUCH more taste as well!

Any of you using hemp bags, is the performance as good as with the pyramids? I don't see myself using poly-fill ever again, but I don't like the PET composition of these pyramids...but they work SO well!

 

[Stehle]

So my poly-fill was wearing out, and I thought I'd give the pyramid bags a shot until I can get some hemp bags (considerably harder to find in a brick and mortar), and...

WOW, these things aren't even comparable to the poly-fill! I was learning to be careful with the poly-fill when taking a draw. It had a tendency to leak liquid into the mouthpiece, and onto my tongue. Tingly...and not in a good way. These tea bags have completely eliminated that issue, and I'm getting good clouds of vapor! MUCH more taste as well!

Any of you using hemp bags, is the performance as good as with the pyramids? I don't see myself using poly-fill ever again, but I don't like the PET composition of these pyramids...but they work SO well!

Hi Circuit! Yes, I would definitely er in the side of caution. I just go do my top ups with a lighted magnifying glass and inspect each time. Nothing out of the ordinary to report though. Like a cool breeze... I'm just enjoying for now.

 

[funkybozu]

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Does anyone read Japanese? I would like to know if this is safe to use as a cart filler. I did pick up a box of the Lipton Pyramid tea, but since I have several packages of this and they are cheaper and empty, I thought it might work.

hey
those are normal green tea empty bags. the material used in those
should be ok. not really sure, but i dont think they will retain much liquide, sinse they are made to defuse tea

 

[Moonflame]

I have taken out and washed the pyramid bags I'm using and inspected them (the only reason I've used more than one is because I like to have a couple of different flavors during the day so I keep a number filled with different things). I haven't found any scorched spots, melted spots or anything. They look exactly t he same as a fresh, unused one does.

 

[Stehle]

I have taken out and washed the pyramid bags I'm using and inspected them (the only reason I've used more than one is because I like to have a couple of different flavors during the day so I keep a number filled with different things). I haven't found any scorched spots, melted spots or anything. They look exactly t he same as a fresh, unused one does.

Excellent observation Moonflame! I was hoping someone else would also post their independent thoughts on this matter. Most reassuring indeed!

Perhaps its a poor analogy... but I liken the using of the Pyramid Tea Bags to skydiving ... if your observant and pack your chute well you have don't much to worry about.

 

[ZIRO]

After using the pyramids for a little over a day, I can say a few things (that have been said before, I'm sure):

1. You can really fill these suckers up...I'm talking 8+drops.
2. They don't seem to burn and/or melt like polyfill sometimes can, so I don't have to worry about an unexpected bad taste.
3. They last for a really, really long time. I've had my cart last longer than a battery (I have a 510.. so I don't know if that's a really big deal).
4. I can actually taste the flavors now, and I never used to get any distinct taste while using poly with my 510.
5. Vapor is great.

I'm not too worried about PET stuff, the melting point of PET is a lot higher than polyfill. But I'm keeping my eye out every time I refill. If anyone notices it starting to burn, definitely let me (and everyone else) know.

 

[Bigbob]

After using the pyramids for a little over a day, I can say a few things (that have been said before, I'm sure):

1. You can really fill these suckers up...I'm talking 8+drops.
2. They don't seem to burn and/or melt like polyfill sometimes can, so I don't have to worry about an unexpected bad taste.
3. They last for a really, really long time. I've had my cart last longer than a battery (I have a 510.. so I don't know if that's a really big deal).
4. I can actually taste the flavors now, and I never used to get any distinct taste while using poly with my 510.
5. Vapor is great.

I'm not too worried about PET stuff, the melting point of PET is a lot higher than polyfill. But I'm keeping my eye out every time I refill. If anyone notices it starting to burn, definitely let me (and everyone else) know.

ZIRO,
With a newly crafted Pyramid filler, I can get ~18 drops of Ecopure into my 510 cart. However mine are just carpet rolled, not folded and I use ~2 lengths PTB (Pyramid Tea Bag).

What kind of juice do use?

 

[Stehle]

ZIRO,
With a newly crafted Pyramid filler, I can get ~18 drops of Ecopure into my 510 cart. However mine are just carpet rolled, not folded and I use ~2 lengths PTB (Pyramid Tea Bag).

What kind of juice do use?

Bigbob! I'm getting 19 drops to a 510 cart average. (Folded ~ 1 length) Good Prophets Juice

Most times I try for 20 I get a little puddle on top.

It might be the added length of PTB accounts for the one drop difference.

(I like the PTB acronym by the way. s 'bout time!)

 

[Bigbob]

Bigbob! I'm getting 19 drops to a 510 cart average. (Folded ~ 1 length) Good Prophets Juice

Most times I try for 20 I get a little puddle on top.

It might be the added length of PTB accounts for the one drop difference.

(I like the PTB acronym by the way. s 'bout time!)

Stehle, are you using the new or old atty's, I have both and have to trim the PTBs differently for each kind. I also use 2 different widths so the ouside layer is longer than the inside. Forms kind of a cup to "hug" the wire mesh.

I'll have to try GP juice. Gotta love the acronyms, it makes typing so much quicker.

 

[Levi]

Few questions about the pyramid bag in a 510 cart

1. Do you cut it flush with the cart? leave it a bit long? a bit short?

2. It seems to work better to fold it. The way i fold one is into a square using 1 full length. then in half lengthwise. then in half 3 times width wise. Then place in cart and trim the length. Ive tried it with a half bag, full bag and 1 1/2 bags. Seems to fit perfect this way with 1 1/2 bags but im worried it might be too tight. I might try 1 1/2 bags and trim then down a tad bit before folding to give ti room to breath. How do you fold it/roll it? How many bags do you use (not counting trimming)

3. Is tighter better or looser better. Or just like with women, its just pereference?

 

[Bigbob]

Few questions about the pyramid bag in a 510 cart

1. Do you cut it flush with the cart? leave it a bit long? a bit short?

2. It seems to work better to fold it. The way i fold one is into a square using 1 full length. then in half lengthwise. then in half 3 times width wise. Then place in cart and trim the length. Ive tried it with a half bag, full bag and 1 1/2 bags. Seems to fit perfect this way with 1 1/2 bags but im worried it might be too tight. I might try 1 1/2 bags and trim then down a tad bit before folding to give ti room to breath. How do you fold it/roll it? How many bags do you use (not counting trimming)

3. Is tighter better or looser better. Or just like with women, its just pereference?

I think, as with many mods, it's up to you. Whatever works for you is best. The only requirement is that the filler( in this case teabags) touches the bridge in order for the liquid to wick into the atomizer.

The rest is trial and error. You'll know best. I believe I posted some picks earlier in the thread. But now the atty's have changed in the 510s, now I trim more. Gotta roll with the changes.

I actually measured the components, drew pictures, and did the math to make sure I was making contact without squishing everything. But that's just me.

 

[Levi]

Well i have a ton of fluval and Pyramid bags so i got creative and messing around with using both.

This seems to be working well if anyone else wants to test it out also, Im really new to this so it might be counterproductive. Any newbies might wanna wait for a few more experienced guys to improve on this or disprove of it. =P

1. take 1/2 a lipton bag, fold in half across the width then carpet roll it tight.

2. place it in the middle and stuff fluval/poly down both sides till the tea bag stands up straight in the middle. Leave the fluval about 2-3mm below the edge and cut the tea bag flush with the top of the cart.

3. drip until it puddles. Let it puddle for step 4

4. use a pair of tweezers to grab the tea bag and lift it slowly until the puddle goes away. (not sure why im doin this but im doin it)

I have been pretty horrible about over filling carts and flooding my atomizer. havn't had that problem since i tried this. Probally cause im not min maxing the capacity of the cart. Puffs good for 4 drops then takes 4 drops. It feels like the ammount i would smoke 1 cig so im liking it. Still going to mess around with alot of different ways but since nobody else has tried using both ill throw that idea out there for you all to play with.