Likes/dislikes. Thinking about trying them. Would be using kr808. Any advise please?
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Well, I have been using Gotvapes.com's Vortexes which are 808s - Pluses of these they give you 5 per pack and each one will last you quite some time. They say only 3 days per one but I use one for about a week before I decide to toss it.
Another plus side, is they are easy to fill. You just pop the top, use your e-liquid bottle and pour down the side of it.
Check em out if you're using 808s you'll love em. I use the adapter for my Silver Bullet for em.
Another plus side, is they are easy to fill. You just pop the top, use your e-liquid bottle and pour down the side of it.
Check em out if you're using 808s you'll love em. I use the adapter for my Silver Bullet for em.
Likes:
- They seem more cleanable than other cartos. For awhile anyway.
Dislikes:
They suck.
- The clear ones tubes leak like hell. Totally worthless.
- The metal ones don't leak but with every CE2 I've ever tried, once they get about half empty they tasted burned if you don't turn them horizontal. So you're constantly spinning your pv around like a cheerleader in a parade with a baton. And the metal ones are harder to clean the the leaky clear ones.
I'll never buy another one. They're not called failomizers for no reason... Nice idea, but it just doesn't work, IMO.
- They seem more cleanable than other cartos. For awhile anyway.
Dislikes:
They suck.
- The clear ones tubes leak like hell. Totally worthless.
- The metal ones don't leak but with every CE2 I've ever tried, once they get about half empty they tasted burned if you don't turn them horizontal. So you're constantly spinning your pv around like a cheerleader in a parade with a baton. And the metal ones are harder to clean the the leaky clear ones.
I'll never buy another one. They're not called failomizers for no reason... Nice idea, but it just doesn't work, IMO.
the s/s e2 xl's cut down with a pipe cutter leaving 3/8 in on the bottom, get you a monoject syringe trim it at the bottom and top line trim out the silicone top ring at the wick openings push the syringe on the e2 till its at the bottom of the tube on the cart fill with juice reinstall the silicone top pc line up the cut outs with the wick install a drip tip and it works great
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Sadly I have to agree, on all points. I searched high and low for those things and not 2 weeks after getting them, I'm back to my plain ol' V4L cartos. The clear ones - Vortexes, actually, if they count as ce2 - fell apart like crazy. I have 2 of 10 that haven't leaked or come unglued around the atty. And I can't seem to get either of those clean so they're sitting here unused. $30 well spent.
I got the metal xl's too. After I got the initial crap taste out of them, which was a hassle enough, I either keep them filled to the tippy top or the taste comes right back. Or spin them like a cheerleader in a parade
which keeps them tasting OK for a few extra drags.I'm shocked anyone ever makes repeat purchases on them. I wouldn't give you 10 cents for one.
You can somewhat salvage them by getting one of the MAP tank mods (run you $20 to $30), but why throw good money after bad. I need to sell the ones I have. I bet they would work better with the thin 100% PG juices, but I'm not into those.
You can somewhat salvage them by getting one of the MAP tank mods (run you $20 to $30), but why throw good money after bad. I need to sell the ones I have. I bet they would work better with the thin 100% PG juices, but I'm not into those.
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Likes:
They last and last.
They taste like the juice you put in them.
Good vape.
Dislikes:
Clearos have sleeves that can't take juice with a PH over 7...they'll crack and bust.
I avoid the clear ones or just mod them out of the box to different sleeves.
Requires a syringe to fill...which isn't really a dislike for me...makes it clean and easy.
Juices are different...so the seal needs to be adjusted a bit (so you don't have to ummm, twirl the PV like a baton).
I never had to twirl anything here. Horizontal position occasionally is the most work I ever had to do to get countless back to back hits. I think that's how most folks hold a KR808D-1 battery anyway.
One thing is for sure...if you get anything that uses wicks instead of filler...
You might want to make adjustments either to the wick system or the juice for optimum performance.
They aren't really that expensive. Around $9 for the short ones, and $12 for the long ones on boxes of 5.
The 808 ones are harder to find in stock anywhere...just use a 901>510 adapter.
They last and last.
They taste like the juice you put in them.
Good vape.
Dislikes:
Clearos have sleeves that can't take juice with a PH over 7...they'll crack and bust.
I avoid the clear ones or just mod them out of the box to different sleeves.
Requires a syringe to fill...which isn't really a dislike for me...makes it clean and easy.
Juices are different...so the seal needs to be adjusted a bit (so you don't have to ummm, twirl the PV like a baton).
I never had to twirl anything here. Horizontal position occasionally is the most work I ever had to do to get countless back to back hits. I think that's how most folks hold a KR808D-1 battery anyway.
One thing is for sure...if you get anything that uses wicks instead of filler...
You might want to make adjustments either to the wick system or the juice for optimum performance.
They aren't really that expensive. Around $9 for the short ones, and $12 for the long ones on boxes of 5.
The 808 ones are harder to find in stock anywhere...just use a 901>510 adapter.
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Worthless? Used clear ones for weeks till they cracked or busted. I could have trashed them and still had my 12 bucks worth, but I chose to mod them and they're still going.
Cheerleaders and batons? Hmmm...
Just lift the bottom ring 1/16th of an inch so the wicks can breathe.
Failomizers? I guess that's why they can't make them fast enough to keep up with demand.
Both are easy to clean.
Don't take a thing apart...just Shoot some distilled water or PGA over the coil with your syringe...burn it a few times, rinse again with a shot of distlled water, reprime with a drop or two of juice.
If you mean 'change flavors' by emptying out the tanks, and burning the wicks...
They're the only cartos that let you do that at all.........period. You can do this...but it's better just to use one with one flavor and don't crack it open till you're out of a juice you'll never replenish.
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All PG juice doesn't wick as well as one with some VG blend in my experience.
80/20 seems to do well here.
The more 'clear' juices do wick a little better, as there are not pigments to gunk up the wicks over time. Even so...after you're on like your 30th refill (try that with any other carto)...SHAKE it every now and then to free the wicks up.
The clear ones - Vortexes, actually, if they count as ce2 - fell apart like crazy. I have 2 of 10 that haven't leaked or come unglued around the atty. And I can't seem to get either of those clean so they're sitting here unused. $30 well spent.
I got the metal xl's too. After I got the initial crap taste out of them, which was a hassle enough, I either keep them filled to the tippy top or the taste comes right back. Or spin them like a cheerleader in a parade
Vortex is is only like a CE2 in that there is no poly-filler; but, it isn't even made by the same company.
There is NO ceramic cup in the Vortex at all, which is where CE2 gets it name.
How long did your vortex last before you broke them?
Did they vape well?
Were they easy to fill?
How many fills did you get before having any problems?
What makes you think you can't clean them and why, since they haven't been used?
Just wash it and let it dry...
If you really want....you can pull off both tubes and burn off the wicks and coils with a torch or lighter.
Name any other carto on the market that cleans any easier.
I've actually used 2 out of a box of 5 for weeks now...even put my own coil in one after on purposely torturing it at continuious 7v usage till the original coil finally popped. It took no tools but some clippers to snip my nichrome wire and fresh silica to totally rebuild the Vortex like new.
Inital crap taste in a CE2? I've never had this before.
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Dislike: They are a pain in the ... to fill! [I never got beyond that to discover how effectively they perform. Apparently others have. All power to them!]
For the Kr8, I recommend the Bloog MaxX Fusion cartos. At $11 per five-pack, they're more expensive than most, but worth it IMO. Since I like their 555, I get their 555 prefilled and then refill with whatever I like. [NOTE: Don't get any 555 if you don't like peanuts.] They also have Blanks (for $1 less) and sampler packs: Tobacco and Non-Tobacco.
For the Kr8, I recommend the Bloog MaxX Fusion cartos. At $11 per five-pack, they're more expensive than most, but worth it IMO. Since I like their 555, I get their 555 prefilled and then refill with whatever I like. [NOTE: Don't get any 555 if you don't like peanuts.] They also have Blanks (for $1 less) and sampler packs: Tobacco and Non-Tobacco.
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Dislike: They are a pain in the ... to fill! [I never got beyond that to discover how effectively they perform. Apparently others have. All power to them!]
For the Kr8, I recommend the Bloog MaxX Fusion cartos. At $11 per five-pack, they're more expensive than most, but worth it IMO. Since I like their 555, I get their 555 prefilled and then refill with whatever I like. [NOTE: Don't get any 555 if you don't like peanuts.] They also have Blanks (for $1 less) and sampler packs: Tobacco and Non-Tobacco.
Once you get a syringe or needle tip bottles you never go back. EVEN with the Bloogs.
Unless of course you like sitting there for 20 minutes going 'drip 3, quarter turn, drip 3, quarter turn, wait wait'.
Or maybe you prefer......fumble fumble for condom, drip drip, oops It blew off and got everywhere...drip drip, push, wipe wipe, spin spin.
Unless you have bad eye sight and can't hold your hands steady enough to put a needle in a hole.....it's no big deal to fill a CE2.
As for the Bloogs, I got nothing against them. Purdy good cartos, try some, but also purdy expensive for what they are.
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I have limited experience with the CE-2 but what I have found is that they're a pain in the ... to fill, they don't give a throat hit, and they always taste burnt. The first 2 or 3 hits from them taste great, after that they taste burned. I think the best thing so far is the Boge LR510. Can't wait to see what comes down the pipe next in the world of cartomizers.
I enjoyed that!However that "20 minutes" is grossly exaggerated. More like 30 seconds (for 20 drops). And the Bloog soft-tip caps are super easy to remove and place back on.
Actually, that describes me.
Although mainly I just can't find the hole*, especially when some e-liquid has puddled on top of it.* Now no wisecracks about such a difficulty in other aspects of my life!;-)
Somewhat more expensive, but worth it ... to me.
However that "20 minutes" is grossly exaggerated. More like 30 seconds (for 20 drops). And the Bloog soft-tip caps are super easy to remove and place back on.
Actually, that describes me.
* Now no wisecracks about such a difficulty in other aspects of my life!;-)
Somewhat more expensive, but worth it ... to me.
The 20 minutes to drip or condom fill a Bloog comment is no more exagerated than previous posts (not yours) about twirling the PV like a cheerleader in a parade to make it wick, etc...
I do admit I exagerated, but with a needle...the Bloogs are easier/faster/neater to fill as well
I say try the things. You might like them and you might not...
I am reasonably certian that unless you get a dud...you can get weeks and weeks from a CE2 with good performance.
It might require some adjustments to really make it shine with your juice...and yep, you'll want a tool or two to set them up and fill them.
The 'Failomizer' won't be hard to swap for something else or sell if you try one from a box and hate it. In fact, if you watch the stocks of places that sell them, and time it right you're likely to get more than you paid for them even with one missing from the box!
It's biggest problem is that you can work on it, mod it, and it lasts too long.
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Credo, you (and most modders I've interacted with) assume that everyone is as facile and patient with fiddling as you. I, for one, am not. Although I am fairly knowledgeable about the world of vaping (it is a wonderful one, so to speak;-), isn't it?), I have zero technical expertise, manual dexterity, or tolerance for anything that is not plug-and-play.
If you like, I will acknowledge that CE2 cartomizers may well be the holy grail for those comfortable using them. I wouldn't know ... and have no desire to self-flagellate further to find out.
If you like, I will acknowledge that CE2 cartomizers may well be the holy grail for those comfortable using them. I wouldn't know ... and have no desire to self-flagellate further to find out.
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I never said they are the holy grail...
Just feel like they're worth giving a try.
I'll admit they're not the only carto I use...there's times when I want something different.
I still keep a flat of prefilled cartos in my tackle box and a couple in my golf bag...some are even Bloogs
I have however, gotten my money worth and then some out of every single CE2 I ever got.
I never felt ripped off by a Bloog either
BTW, I'm not really much of a modder.
I've lifted some rings a fraction of an inch before.
Just for kicks I rewound a Vortex myself (and it may be months before anyone has them again...if ever). Hardly a modder tho'...yet.
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My bad on lumping them in with CE2's. for your Q's:
How long did your vortex last before you broke them?
> First I don't feel that "I broke them". "They broke" is more correct. The ones that fell apart, basically I put them on, vaped a bit, and when I went to unscrew it the plastic tube just spun freely around the atty end, no way to take it off the battery till I pulled the tube off and lost my juice. At first I thought it was a heat issue, maybe my vaping heated the glue and weakened it, but even being extremely mindful to not try to remove the carto when even remotely warm, they still fell apart.
Did they vape well?
> AMAZINGLY well while they worked. I absolutely 100% loved that aspect of them.
Were they easy to fill?
> Extremely easy to fill. Almost too easy as the standard mouthpiece fell out every chance it got. To the point that I got in the habit of licking my lips before I took a drag so they wouldn't stick to the cap and pull it out. But yeah, overall filling was a piece of cake.
How many fills did you get before having any problems?
> 1-2. I only had a couple make it beyond that.
What makes you think you can't clean them and why, since they haven't been used?
> The ones that made it were used. One had a real sweet juice in it that gunked it up, I tried running it under hot water which got some of the wick on the sides clean but did little for the little atty chamber thing. I never tried alcohol, it may have worked better.
If you really want....you can pull off both tubes and burn off the wicks and coils with a torch or lighter.
> This I found impossible. The ones that fell apart I did try to reassemble, but sheet-like wick material that is outside the chamber at the bottom isn't actually attached to anything, so sliding the tube back over it scrunched it all down till it was more or less useless, and too bulky for the tube to slide over. Perhaps it's possible to reassemble them and I just lack the appropriate level of finesse? Either way I certainly wouldn't call it "easier" than anything else I've had.
Fair enough...
2 refills is clearly not acceptable unless they sell them REALLY cheap!
I got lucky on the two I've opened so far.
Thanks for sharing the details...
I hope they get these right en-mass.
Much promise.
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