That Morning Hit

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Myrany

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I have only been vaping a few weeks and the need for the morning hit has only recently started to fade for me. I keep a fairly strongly flavored menthol juice around and hit that in the morning. 5-10 minutes vaping that and I am set for the day. I don't even raise the nic level on it it seems to be more habit than addiction. I just need that really strong sensation to wake me up.

Using a drip atty will increase the sensation even more. An inexpensive drip atty with an included tip can be found here
SmartVapes 306 1.8ohm E cig Dripping Atomizer
 

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Let me add one to this otherwise excellent list. Between the most inexpensive and More Pricey place the Vamo which is VV and VW at a reasonable price $40-$50 depending on where you get it.

Good suggestion. The Vamo is hands down superior to the spinner and twist. And in the same category as the evic, etc but at a better price.
 

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Am I on the right track with the Ego battery, 510 dripping atomizer and the 26mg juice?

Prob'bly. I have a 24mg juice, dripping atomizer and drip tip to get me going in the mornings.

Something that ain't easy to do with me. I wake up so sloooooooooooooow............. :)
 

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Also remember that the nicotine in water vapor is absorbed differently than when it's in smoke from a cig. Water vapor particles are larger and therefore can not go deep into the lungs. The majority of the nicotine from vapor is absorbed in the mouth and nose.

When I was having similar difficulties I would take several vapes holding it in my mouth for about 5-10 seconds alternating with normal vapes that I inhaled. It took longer to get over the craving than if I had used a cig, but the extra time was worth it.

There's a good thread on here somewhere explaining this in more detail. Will try to find it. Good luck and don't give up!
 

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So, I just bought an Ego-S kit from Vapure yesterday, and so far I love it. Except for one thing "that Morning hit". I've smoked 1.5 PPD for... ages. But right now I need that morning hit, that occasional big nic hit. The 11mg sauce I got doesn't do it, so I'm thinking a dripping atomizer and 26mg juice might do it. this morning it took an actual burning death stick (actually about 4-5 drags and then I put it out), but i'd rather not do that anymore. The Ego works great for maintenance, I'm mildly nicfitting (like i'd switched to Ultra Lights), but that's dealable. But that initial kick isn't there.

Am I on the right track with the Ego battery, 510 dripping atomizer and the 26mg juice?

if you only take 4-5 hits and put it out.
then vaping is working.
soon you won't smoke at all.
up the nicotine to around 24mg and you should be good to go.
if you have trouble going to sleep.
use a lower nic level at night.
 

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The morning ciggy was my biggest obstacle too. Coffee & a cigarette was my morning ritual! I wonder if 11mg is too low for you in general but if your cravings are under control the rest of the day then it sounds like youre good. I agree upping it for the morning would help. I vape mainly 18mg but had a bottle of 24mg when I first started out to help with times like those! You're on the right track! I also agree with the other posts about trying out VV. you could grab a twist or spinner to see how you like it to start & then go from there.
 

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Prob'bly. I have a 24mg juice, dripping atomizer and drip tip to get me going in the mornings.

Something that ain't easy to do with me. I wake up so sloooooooooooooow............. :)

Lol@ SteamDaddy! I wake up extremely slow too! I don't even want to speak or be spoken to until I've had my morning coffee!
 

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I keep a few tobacco juices around to give me that fix when I get a good crave.

Halo's Tribeca usually does the trick. I also enjoy Kustom's Ebony and Ivory. Halycon has a nice Honey Badger (and you get to chuckle at the video when vaping!).

I generally vape other stuff throughout the day, but when that crave hits (usually frustration or anger, also: alcohol) I gotta have something that fill in.

Consider a good tobacco juice to get what ya need.
 

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Hmm, not sure I want to do to much tinkering... yet. I'm thinking that this Bridgeless 510 Atomizer Standard and some high-proof juice might be enough to get that start up hit. Otherwise, i've got two death sticks to get over it.

Well, that can work. I didn't stop smoking the day I started vaping myself. Not everybody does. Some seem able to walk away the first day, others, it takes longer. My smoking dropped dramatically immediately from up to 2 packs a day to maybe 3 to 6 per day but I didn't stop dead. I sort of drifted down over time. That first cig of the day stuck around a while. Until one day the thought of having a cig first thing in the morning seemed rather disgusting. The more I found flavors of e-liquids that I really liked, the more cigs tasted just awful. So one morning, just couldn't seem to stand the idea of a cig first thing in the morning.

But for a while, I needed that "quick fix" cigs give you. They get the nicotine (and other stuff) into your bloodstream faster. Literally in seconds. Seemed I needed that "hit" then could coast for hours on vaping.

Either way, I was smoking far, far less than I had in literally decades. And it kept going down. My opinion is, don't worry about it unless the smoking goes up. Keep experimenting with liquids and nic levels and you'll hit the right combination. And one day, the idea of a cig first thing in the morning will just sound terrible and you won't do it.
 

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Ahh the good old first cig of the day....to be honest I vape for probably an hour straight in the morning when I wake up to get rid of that feeling...I also work from home so I guess not everyone can do this, but hey it seems to work for me. For me at least the first cig isn't the most tempting, it's the after eating cig...always always had a cig right after finishing eating a meal, and still crave that everytime, have to vape like a fiend after to get rid of that feeling. I just got my eVic yesterday though from using eGo's...and it definitely was worth it, 100%. I got mine for 89.99 free shipping from smokenjoey.com, which isn't to bad I don't think. But don't worry about still smoking occasionally, some people can't stop on day one. Me and my girlfriend starting vaping a little over a month ago, and she still smokes, not nearly as much as before, but she couldn't just quit right away. I personally did quit on day 1, but to each his own. I think it is because she hasn't found a flavor she really really likes yet, as she doesn't like desert type vapes and that is basically all I ordered lol, along with RY4's that she somehow doesn't like either. More of a coffee person, and most of the coffee vapes aren't to good. But yeah I would either get a higher nic level for the morning, or get a VW/VV device. If the eGo is working for you throughout the rest of the day, I would just drip with higher nic in the morning, definitely going to be cheaper for right now, and you could always get a VW/VV device if you decide you want to later on.
 

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I'm not a Dr. nor do I play one on T.V. but of course, I will give you my Rx anyways :p

A "Twist" style vv battery (discountvapers has them for @ $22.00) and a ce3 in the 2.4-2.6 ohm range with some 18-24mg nic e-juice should definitely help you out. I used to feel like you when I first started; something was missing. Well, yeah! You're not smoking! Your mind is f'ing with you is all that is.

Plus, ( and I have no scientific evidence to back this up) I absolutely believe that the Tobacco Companies are adding something that either amplifies the nicotine addiction or, is something that's equally as addictive as nic that calls us back...teasing us into smoking a cig - adding to the mind f@#kery we all go through when we switch to vaping. But of course, that's just a personal "theory".

All I can say for sure is that it gets better and becomes a non-issue. Nowadays I get up in the morning, sit on my throne with an 18mg vape and a cup of coffee and survey my Bathroom Kingdom and all is well.

Good luck to you.
 

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Ahh the good old first cig of the day....to be honest I vape for probably an hour straight in the morning when I wake up to get rid of that feeling...I also work from home so I guess not everyone can do this, but hey it seems to work for me. For me at least the first cig isn't the most tempting, it's the after eating cig...always always had a cig right after finishing eating a meal, and still crave that everytime, have to vape like a fiend after to get rid of that feeling.

Same here. The after eating craving. Weirdly, the "first in the morning" died quietly. The "after eating" cig dug in its heels and only went kicking and clawing and biting.

:)

(I say "weirdly" because I would have expected it the other way round since when you get up, it's been hours since you had a "hit" of nicotine. But I just up and lost interest one day. After eating? That can still sneak up on me.)
 
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With thousands of different chemicals in cigarettes, its naive to think that nicotine is the only addictive substance in them.

Vaping will never exactly match what cigarettes can do.

There are times where one drag of a cigarette can ease depressed feelings in the gut, while the ecig cant.

The craving for cigarettes IS different, I think, than my new craving for vapor. The craving for analogs I think was much more SEVERE.
I agree that there is something else in analogs that is likely addicting (knowing a little about tobacco companies...), but I have to disagree with the rest.....

Others have said it, but at the beginning, any urges I had to have an analog were dealt with by leaning on the vape a little harder. That ALWAYS took care of those urges. Better to double up on vaping at these times than to have an analog, methinks. After being a PAD for many years, gotta be honest.....I had very few urges once I turned to vaping, and I am grateful for that!

2nd, someone else already said it: have a couple of different strengths of your vavorite flavors for different circumstances. I have never gone above 12 mg of nic, and several of those 12 mg nic flavors have knocked my socks off......too mich nic!! I now have several levels of nic in the same or similar flavors.

Last but not least, I leaned heavily on my Blu-Cigs the first 3 days. Too much? Who cares!!! It worked like a charm, and although every one is different, I am still amazed that I was able to put the analogs down after so long. Again, I am grateful for that, and for the record, I will always be indebted to Blu-Cigs Vivid Vanilla for that!! (I still buy Vivid Vanilla cartos form time to time.......)

By all means, STICK WITH IT, and do whatever it takes to get off the analogs. Searching for flavors is just too much damn fun....
 
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One of those compounds is called "harmala." It potentiates nicotine, which is one of the reasons tobacco gives a more intense buzz. It also keeps the nicotine in your system longer, and--surprise--it's in coffee. There's much more of it in passionflower extract, if the coffee isn't enough. 'not saying it's a good idea, since it's easier to OD with something like this, but yeah, it's one of the missing links.
 
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