That one vape guy. O.o

[Brokevaporguy93]

I just recently read an ecf forum that I came across on Google about hybrid safety and how someone had a hybrid mech that blew up on them. It really inspired me to join here on ecf. Thought maybe I could help prevent this type of thing from happening. I've been vaping for years. Started out on the aspire k1 with the vision spinner(old school ). Now I vape on my mech mods more than anything else even though is 2016 and everyone is using boxes now. Got a ipv5 but don't use it that much. Play with temp control once in a while. That's about it though. Mainly use it as an ohms reader and I know box mods are inaccurate ohms readers but it gives me a good ball park for my mechs. Don't feel like blowing up today. Any way, in an attempt to stop myself from rambling. I've been vaping since the beginning and know a lot about everything. (I guess this is how a vapor says "hi I'm new here". Lol)

 

[Baditude]

Welcome to ECF!

I'm a proponent of safe vaping habits myself. A lot of young uninformed males who just began vaping are using a direct battery (faux hybrid or incorrectly known as a "hybrid") mod with an inappropriate juice attachment, and are running the risk of blowing up either their battery or mod. Anytime I see someone post about a direct battery mod, I always ask what juice attachment they are using.

A Beginner's Guide to Your First Mechanical Mod

• Covers the differences between a mechanical vs. regulated mod, essential safety accessories, optional safety accessories to add layers of safety to your mech, routine maintanance, use of proper batteries, proper ventilation, low resistance vaping, and faux hybrid mods.

 

[Brokevaporguy93]

Exactly, the safest rda out right now for this type of method is the Payload rda due to it'so massively protruding positive pin. That itself explains what you need in the terms of safety when using this class of hybrid.

 

[Eskie]

Hi and welcome! Always good to see someone new around, especially when your experience will be really helpful to others. Mechs are a different animal and deserve respect. With all the fears over the new FDA regs, folks have been stocking up on stuff including mechs for long term reliability, but without experience in their use. I'm sure you'll get lots of questions flooding your way.

 

[Brokevaporguy93]

And batteries you will definetly need 35 amps plus. I recommend 40 amps for beginners. With my LG 3000 mah 35 amp battery's I do not go below .15 ohms and try to build at .20. That's with using my 510 adapter on my Wotofo Phantom copper mech mod. I have the hybrid straight through battery to atty adapter for it but I'm honestly just scared to use it because the only rda I have right now is my Wotofo Troll V1 and the bottom pin(positive) is nearly flush with the outer 510 (negative)threads.

 

[Brokevaporguy93]

Eskie: I welcome questions. I always help my friends at work with knowledge and etc involving vaping. This one girl at work asked me about my HCigar Stingray clone and I told her straight out that I'd have to explain to her for like a half an hour the safety side of mechs before I'd even consider telling her where to buy one because I didn't want her to blow her hand off. Gotta be honest man, truth hurts but not as much as blown off hand or even worse. A blown off jaw.

 

[Eskie]

Yeah, things blowing up is not the nicest introduction to vaping. There is an entire subforum devoted to batteries and chargers in the APV section here. We also have Mooch, who has been superb at testing batteries, rating them, and guiding folks in their use. Here's a quick link to those battery tests and ratings for performance List of Battery Tests | E-Cigarette Forum

Probably some of the most helpful information on this forum when it comes to safety.

 

[Baditude]

And batteries you will definetly need 35 amps plus. I recommend 40 amps for beginners. With my LG 3000 mah 35 amp battery's I do not go below .15 ohms and try to build at .20.

I'm afraid that on this forum that we go by the battery's "continuous discharge rating" and not a pulse rating. Pulse ratings are pretty useless, and make comparing one brand/model of battery impossible with another. The continuous discharge rating is the industry standard.

Battery Amp Ratings: Continuous vs Pulse Ratings
Battery pulse ratings are useless! | E-Cigarette Forum
There are no 18650 batteries with a genuine rating over 30A!
Are You Using a ReWrap Battery?​

You didn't specify which LG battery you are using. Some are 20 amp CDR, some are 30 amp CDR. The LG HG2 3000mah battery is a 20 amp CDR. We go by Mooch's bench testing. List of Battery Tests

 

[JMarca]

And batteries you will definetly need 35 amps plus. I recommend 40 amps for beginners. With my LG 3000 mah 35 amp battery's I do not go below .15 ohms and try to build at .20. That's with using my 510 adapter on my Wotofo Phantom copper mech mod. I have the hybrid straight through battery to atty adapter for it but I'm honestly just scared to use it because the only rda I have right now is my Wotofo Troll V1 and the bottom pin(positive) is nearly flush with the outer 510 (negative)threads.

You won't find a 40amp 18650 battery anywhere, they don't exist. Most battery manufacturer's go by pulse rating as Bad already mentioned above this is a useless metric, always go by the CDR rating and check the battery section on this forum to make sure you know what your battery truly puts out. Sometimes even the CDR rating on the manufacturer's website is grossly exaggerated to promote more sales, some users on this forum (mainly Mooch) do independent testing you should trust his testing over anything else.

 

[Brokevaporguy93]

You guys just blew my mind already. I'm very happy I joined this forum. I read about this year's ago but I thought that all the [edited] was pushed out in the industry. Nice to know that these companys are still just crooks all about the money.

 

[Brokevaporguy93]

No offense to you guys btw. I'm checking out Mooch's blog now and the results are blowing my mind. Now I will not be using a hybrid adapter for any of my mechs until I purchase the right battery's for it. I thought I knew a lot about safety but it turns out that 18650 batteries is a whole different animal completly.

 

[Eskie]

The great thing about this place is how you can keep finding new, helpful information to get the best vape and remain safe, as well as how not to waste money on stuff that performs poorly. One other note, LG, and really all the quality brand batteries are frequently counterfeited. Adding a fake shrink wrap onto a cheap generic 18650 is quite easy to do, and the money for that "better" battery you laid out for is wasted. Be sure to always buy batteries from reputable dealers. The amount you might save on some discount site just isn't worth the risk.

 

[Canadian_Vaper]

Welcome to ECF!

 

[Topwater Elvis]

No offense to you guys btw. I'm checking out Mooch's blog now and the results are blowing my mind. Now I will not be using a hybrid adapter for any of my mechs until I purchase the right battery's for it. I thought I knew a lot about safety but it turns out that 18650 batteries is a whole different animal completly.

Size of the battery makes no difference, just as many low quality erroneously labeled cells are on the market in all sizes used in vaping.

 

[BrotherBob]

Welcome and glad you joined.

 

[NealBJr]

No offense to you guys btw. I'm checking out Mooch's blog now and the results are blowing my mind. Now I will not be using a hybrid adapter for any of my mechs until I purchase the right battery's for it. I thought I knew a lot about safety but it turns out that 18650 batteries is a whole different animal completly.

Lol.. mooch/badditude strikes again.. he's been quite an expert at batteries and battery safety.... When I saw your first post about 40 amp 18650's, I was waiting for their reply. Yes, they educated me as well.

And I actually consider it a life lesson... it's not just bad policy, it's just called advertising. It happens, and will happen again. Don't live life as a follower... live life educated.

And as far as hybrid mods go...I have one, I don't trust it.. but it's there and works. For mechanicals, I have something that's just about as small as my hybrid.. I have a Caravella clone with a derringer dripper... no need for anything else.. it's small and not a hybrid. Ahh, WTH.. a pic is worth a thousand words...

From left to right:
Tugboat Hybrid
VTC4 (for reference)
Caravella clone + heat sink + derringer (shorter than hybrid)
50w Cloupor Mini (1 bat) (found it after missing fora while) with Kanger nano
Cuboid 150w (2 bat) + heat sink + goblin mini V2
Releaux RX200 (3 bat) + heat sink + Smok TFV4
Vamo V7 40w (1 bat) + Taifun GT2

Main is cuboid, home/secondary/heavy Releaux, outings is Cloupor mini, light vape is Vamo (currently has 3.0 ohm @ 12w)

I don't think I've used the Hybrid this year... but the Caravella is a heavy/backup dripper when my battery charger is filled.

 

[Continuity]

Yes - there are no real 40A 18650s as other have already pointed out.

Can I ask which 18650 cells you *were* using that you said you'll now get rid of, as a matter of interest.

I personally like the Samsung 25R and lately the 30Q 18650 cells for use in my mods - they're true 20A cells, perform well, and are very reasonably priced with good general availability.

EDIT - I just re-read your posts and noticed that you mention an LG 3000 mAh '35A' battery - there's no way that any 18650 with a 3000 mAh capacity will have a CDR of any more than 20A although I notice some sellers on places like Amazon and eBay claiming to sell 35A 3000 mAh LG cells.

 

[daviedog]

No offense to you guys btw. I'm checking out Mooch's blog now and the results are blowing my mind. Now I will not be using a hybrid adapter for any of my mechs until I purchase the right battery's for it. I thought I knew a lot about safety but it turns out that 18650 batteries is a whole different animal completly.

Bravo,, you're a quick study..

 

[Brokevaporguy93]

I've been doing some heavy searching for rda's and mech mods from the uk. Mainly CCC (Cloud Chasing Club)and in the process I came across these batteries and wanted to know personal opinions and etc. For example if any one has even heard of them. They thoroughly list the specs of them on their website as if they actually took time on these. I've also read that they are supposed to be better than Sony's VTC 5's.

SUBOHMCELL - Age verification

Here's the link to where I found them and also the claimer that they are better than Sony's VTC 5's.
SubOhmCell 2800 mAh Rechargeable Batteries

 

[Brokevaporguy93]

Though I do like how innovapes.com said they are 35 amp "rated". Lol