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THC does NOT kill...

Discussion in 'General Cannabis Discussion' started by Doffy, Sep 19, 2019.

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  1. Doffy

    Doffy Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 15, 2014
    Australia
    Inappropriate additives do, things like vit E as thickener. Be they in nicotine vape, CBD, or THC eliquid.

    Discuss...
     
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  2. Rossum

    Rossum Surly Curmudgeon Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Dec 14, 2013
    NE FL
    I'm not sure I'd call an inappropriate cutting agent an "impurity". An impurity is generally something that's in a product unintentionally. What it seems we have here is something that was added on purpose, as a "thickener" to give the appearance of higher purity/potency.
     
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  3. Doffy

    Doffy Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 15, 2014
    Australia
    This is true. I can edit OP, but at 4am can't think of better wording :blush:

    Suggestions?
     
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  4. ScottP

    ScottP Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 9, 2013
    Houston, TX
    I would say THC doesn't kill, neither does nicotine. Buying black market products cut or laced with dangerous additives does. So buy legal, buy legit and live.
     
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  5. Doffy

    Doffy Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 15, 2014
    Australia
    thanks

    i don't vape THC BTW. I just don't much care for misinformation

    [enjoyed my teens to the fullest, of course, long time ago]
     
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  6. Rossum

    Rossum Surly Curmudgeon Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Dec 14, 2013
    NE FL
    I went to college in the 1970s. Legal/legit was not a option at that time, but somehow there were no deaths from cannabis then.

    Even now, it's still illegal in many states as well as on the federal level, so it may not be possible for everyone to follow your good advise.
     
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  7. ScottP

    ScottP Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 9, 2013
    Houston, TX
    In the 1970's people were smoking flower. Now people are buying processed goods made or derived from said flower. If you buy "edible" or liquid products you need to know what is in them. Even buying flower today could potentially be dangerous with everything being laced with fentanyl these days. I am not sure if any flowers have been laced yet, but give it time, I am sure it will be.

    As far as places where it is illegal, you need to understand that buying black market IS a risk and that will never change. You won't know if it was cut with something, laced with something, or even soaked in embalming fluid (I know this has happened).
     
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  8. icepickmaker84

    icepickmaker84 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 7, 2019
    Indiana
    I’ve been using carts for 2yrs without issue, I also get them from someone I’ve known for close to 20yrs. Knowing your guy is important...I think that’s often overlooked.
     
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  9. bombastinator

    bombastinator ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 12, 2010
    MN USA
    Just looked at what the vitamin E acetate was replacing. MCE, which is apparently palm oil. That doesn’t have any business in a vape either.
     
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  10. bombastinator

    bombastinator ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 12, 2010
    MN USA
    ...and impossible if you’re a teenager, which is where the main problem seems to be.
     
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  11. icepickmaker84

    icepickmaker84 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 7, 2019
    Indiana
    I’m sure the party favor scene has changed since I was in high school but even back then you knew who had good favors and who’s we’re not so good.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
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  12. Ravenscroft

    Ravenscroft Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 29, 2010
    Sydney, Oz
    Hi Doffy,
    There are apparently no cannabinoid receptors in the brain stem which controls breathing, swallowing, heart rate, blood pressure, consciousness etc so it is sort of impossible for THC to kill you by itself.

    I have only been studying this for a couple of years since the endocannabinoid system was discovered as when I studied anatomy and physiology this system wasn't known to exist.

    Still learning:)

    RC.
     
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  13. smacuser

    smacuser Vapid Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Jan 22, 2012
    Vape Augustine, FL
    Anybody heard of the Tashkin Study?

    tl;dr. Basically the government wanted him to find a correlation between pot smoking and lung disease; but in fact, he found the opposite.
     
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  14. Vapntime

    Vapntime Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 22, 2013
    Brisbane, Australia
    It was once said that the only side effect from cannabis was the high...

    An interesting statement, we know a bit more now but I still think this can be effectively true for those of good health (mental/physical) moderate use and medical users.
     
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  15. Doffy

    Doffy Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 15, 2014
    Australia
    RC. I'm Dogman elsewhere. Good to see you here
     
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  16. evan le'garde

    evan le'garde Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Apr 3, 2013
    The problem though, with THC, is if it is used frequently the users tolerance increases. So the "dose" has to increase to get the same effect as before. I used to use (abuse) weed so much that i couldn't keep up with these increases. I just wasn't getting stoned. At that time i started thinking about how if a tobacco smoker didn't smoke for a few days and then lit up a cigarette they get dizzy, kind of high. I really do think that constant use of Cannabis isn't so different. You just don't get high if you smoke it the same way you smoke cigarettes. Such as 20 or 30 a day. Kind of makes THC seem quite pointless.
     
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  17. Punk In Drublic

    Punk In Drublic Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Aug 28, 2018
    Toronto, ON
    Then that would be your problem for not maintaining your consumption. I do not use, don’t particularly fancy it. But do enjoy consuming many other products. Alcohol, chocolate, fried chicken, coffee! I manage my consumption so that they do not become a physical or psychological dependency thus requiring more to satisfy my needs. The consumption of alcohol or coffee can be abused, but that does not make them useless for those who use in moderation.
     
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  18. Sloth Tonight

    Sloth Tonight CF Moderator Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Jun 25, 2014
    Adirondacks
    "One Cup, One Toke" is my motto. One cup of coffee in the morning, one toke in the evening (with occasional days off on the latter). On days off from work, sometimes a 2nd toke is in order.
     
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  19. DJ Colonel Corn

    DJ Colonel Corn The Vapor Ninja Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Uhhhh
    You don't remember 'hash oil' or 'honey oil' ??
    There was plenty of it going around.
    It's the same stuff that's available today.
    1970's hash pipes were quite the thing.....
     
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  20. evan le'garde

    evan le'garde Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Apr 3, 2013
    I'm comparing Cannabis smoking to tobacco smoking. Smoking Cannabis habitually !. People smoke 20, 30, 40 or more tobacco cigarettes a day without a single thought, HABITUALLY !. If Cannabis is smoked in the same way the smoker doesn't get high. My comparison doesn't take into account moderation.

    If Cannabis cost the same as Tobacco then people would smoke it in the same way they do tobacco. Getting high on Cannabis is a side effect which reflects just how expensive it actually is.

    It all comes down to the cost for some.

    But there again if you're the kind of person who smokes/smoked one or two cigarettes a day then it's a completely different story.

    PS: It would be a problem if people "want" to smoke Cannabis habitually, such as all day everyday. It's not the user, it's the THC that does that.

    If tobacco cost as much as Cannabis does then users would be getting high smoking tobacco "infrequently".
     
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