The age old question

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Hiveous

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I know there has been much controversy in other parts of the forum in regards to whether V4L's cartomizer are any different or if they all just come from the same place. So here is my personal opinion on it. I am only brave enough to post this in the V4L section as I fear for the safety of my life should I post such a review in any other sub forum :p.

What am I testing?
0mg and 11mg menthols from V4L
1x 0mg menthol, 1x 11mg menthol of 'generic' cartomizers (came in one of starter kits that have 2 batteries, usb charger and 5 cartomizers).

How were the tests done?
I understand the sample size of the generic cartomizers and the people who tested them (2 ppl) is extremely small but hopefully it will still support my findings. I was the test subject for the blind test on the 0mg menthol carts and a friend did a blind test of the 11mg menthol carts.

Is there a difference?
I would have to say yes, my friend and I were both able to determine which were V4L carts. :shock: I am fairly new to the forum and I have no loyatlies (yet) nor ties to any vendor so there would be no reason for me to make such claims other than for information's sake.

What was different?
It was our first order and the first time we vaped so we got a little carried away :D and didn't really assess anything but taste. We only had 1x 0mg and 1x 11mg generic carts so we are unable to do the 'test' again to evaluate vapour production or throat hit. So let's get to taste. My friend and I both tasted a lot more "mintiness" with the V4L carts. There was not only more flavour but I would say it was nicer too. This is not to say that the generic weren't nice. They were, but I would have to rate the V4L slightly higher.

Just smelling the cartomizers before even putting them on the battery, you can smell a discernable difference in flavour already (smells sweeter and mintier). The generic cartomizers only had a very faint smell from the outside. I understand that the 2 generic cartomizers may be a bad batch, but we ordered quite a few packs of other V4L flavours and they pretty much all of them have a strong smell from the outside. For me, this is a clear indication that the cartomizers are going to be flavoursome.

HOWEVER, there is an exception and I'm unsure of what conclusions to draw from this. We did have a generic 11mg Marlboro cartomizer and although it was not vaped we did smell the cart (this was for another friend so we werent allowed to vape it). There was definitely a very tobacco smell to it. We compared that to the only other tobacco flavoured cartomizer we bought from V4L which was the Camel. The V4L had a faint tobacco smell mixed with a sweet smell. Not sure if tobacco ones are suppose to smell sweet still?

In conclusion
In our opinion, V4L's menthol carts stood out for us as they had more of a minty/mentholy taste. So it's :thumbs: from us for V4L's cartomizers!

*Sorry about the excruciatingly long post :oops: but hopefully some people will find it helpful.
 

JenJen

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Well, I have been accused of being brainwashed, crazy or both for saying the same thing, so I don't blame you for not posting it in the general forum lol! ;) But I honestly feel that in a blind taste test I would be able to tell the difference too. The others are usually "ok" but there is a difference in the V4L cartos that goes above and beyond just the fancy packaging and color coded labels.

I am seeing my Aunt and Sister for Thanksgiving (I turned them both on to V4L) and I am going to have someone in the family give the three of us a blind taste test for which cartos we prefer on at least three flavors. I will let you know what we find out. (Hopefully the coffee and cappucino will be back in at V4L before then! I only have bought others when V4L has been out of a flavor I need lol).
 

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One person said I was naive and talked to me like I was slow... ;)

that is just ignorance talking. people can be such haters :mad:

i have to admit that i broke down and bought some coffee carts somewhere else, service, price and turn around were just fine but the coffee carts cannot even mildly compare to steve's!!

i 'fessed up to steve about it and told him it was not happening again! steve was very understanding and told me that i wouldn't know if i didn't try. still, it's not happening again! really, really, really need those coffee and capp carts to come in soon .... :evil:
 

VapingRulz

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i 'fessed up to steve about it and told him it was not happening again! steve was very understanding and told me that i wouldn't know if i didn't try. still, it's not happening again! really, really, really need those coffee and capp carts to come in soon .... :evil:

I'm also waiting for the coffee and cappuccino carts before placing my next order.

Do we have an approximate ETA?
 

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I hate when they are rude to Jen,It makes me so angry.Shes our #1 and she helps all of us.I dont understand why people need to be mean.

I just choose to spend my money at places who DON'T refer to me and others who shop at V4L as idiots and of lesser intellect.

It's a no-brainer for me.

:D
 

JohnnyVapor

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Amen to that. I've not purchased cartos from anywhere else, and to tell the truth I don't feel any compulsion to. Even if they are cheaper elsewhere, and I wouldn't have to pay in-state tax. Every time you Steve posting on here, you can tell that man probably walks around with a big grin on his face, and he goes out of his way to make other people grin too. I know I'll get my stuff FAST, and of course the bonuses help too. :)
 

JenJen

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I just choose to spend my money at places who DON'T refer to me and others who shop at V4L as idiots and of lesser intellect.

It's a no-brainer for me.

:D

Yep, that is how I feel. In my mind, he showed himself for the person he is. And don't worry about me KZgirl, I just consider the source and let that kind of stuff roll right off my back. :)
 

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I hate when they are rude to Jen,It makes me so angry.Shes our #1 and she helps all of us.I dont understand why people need to be mean.

I'm with you on that one keyzygirl! No need to be mean to our Jen! or anyone else.

When I was floundering around on the New Members forum, JenJen, Moonstruck and Phoenix were the Only ones to walk me through the process and help with my questions
 

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Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but there is no need to be mean or rude. I get really irritated when I read some of the condescending posts that infer we don't know what we're talking about.

I haven't done any official "blind" taste tests, but I can tell you that there is definitely a difference between cartomizer vendors. I have ordered some flavors elsewhere when Steve was out of stock, and I just didn't want to wait for them.

I have to give Drew at nhaler.com a thumbs up -- his are the only other cartos I really like besides Steve's. I won't mention the vendor names for the ones I hated, just because I don't want to slam anyone. But they are what they are. So back to nhaler.com -- I have been satisfied with these cartos, they are cheaper, but they don't last as long as Steve's do. For my vaping habits, a carto from Steve will last me a full 24 hours, maybe longer. When I use one from nhaler.com, it will last me all day, but I always have to put on a new one before the end of the evening.

As I said, this was not a controlled study or anything, just my observations. Plus Steve does have some flavors that Drew doesn't have. If you want liquids, Drew has some fantastic flavors.

Everyone knows I'm a V4L customer for life, and I'm not switching. But this is my honest review.
 
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