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The Apocalypse of Peter?

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Saintscruiser

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Okay.....I'm just an ordinary disabled woman who lives in the south (God's Country:D) but my way of looking at the Apocalypse of Peter is this.........

Almighty God parted the Red Sea and allowed His children to walk on dry ground. He gave them water and put food on the ground for them everyday. (Hey....no going to Piggly Wiggly!) He led them by cloud in the daytime and a column of fire at night. I believe it, just as sure as I'm sitting here in Mississippi. These miraculous feats happened through the power of God. But, I don't think He's powerful enough to put a book together. HOGWASH! The Books of the Bible were compiled by God.....Divinely inspired.....and put together just how God wanted them to be.

Now you guys know how I just love Peter.....Mr. open mouth and insert both feet as he's known by the other disciples. I am not going to try to figure out why these papers were not inserted into the Holy Bible, but I believe God has His reasons......otherwise, these papers would be there.....period. There are some things that we will not know until we meet our Savior :wub: face to face, and by then, it won't matter. :)
 

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Okay.....I'm just an ordinary disabled woman who lives in the south (God's Country:D) but my way of looking at the Apocalypse of Peter is this.........

Almighty God parted the Red Sea and allowed His children to walk on dry ground. He gave them water and put food on the ground for them everyday. (Hey....no going to Piggly Wiggly!) He led them by cloud in the daytime and a column of fire at night. I believe it, just as sure as I'm sitting here in Mississippi. These miraculous feats happened through the power of God. But, I don't think He's powerful enough to put a book together. HOGWASH! The Books of the Bible were compiled by God.....Divinely inspired.....and put together just how God wanted them to be.

Now you guys know how I just love Peter.....Mr. open mouth and insert both feet as he's known by the other disciples. I am not going to try to figure out why these papers were not inserted into the Holy Bible, but I believe God has His reasons......otherwise, these papers would be there.....period. There are some things that we will not know until we meet our Savior :wub: face to face, and by then, it won't matter. :)

Girl! I am ssssoooo 'with' you!!!!!! :banana: :banana: :banana:
 

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Luke did not know Jesus. He was too young and Revelation was not the last book written. Only 2 Gospel writers were eyewitnesses.

Luke interviewed Mary, so he couldn't be THAT much younger. Half of the gospel writers were apostles (Matthew and John). Mark was known before as "John Mark". He was the son of the woman who let Jesus use the upper room. In Mark 14:51-52, Mark is the only gospel writer to include that little tidbit. Although Paul wrote most of the epistles, (he met Jesus after the resurrection), other writers of the epistles knew Jesus---Peter for example and Jesus' half brother, James. And I suppose that you want to tell us what the last book of the Bible was that was written.
 

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Luke interviewed Mary, so he couldn't be THAT much younger. Half of the gospel writers were apostles (Matthew and John). Mark was known before as "John Mark". He was the son of the woman who let Jesus use the upper room. In Mark 14:51-52, Mark is the only gospel writer to include that little tidbit. Although Paul wrote most of the epistles, (he met Jesus after the resurrection), other writers of the epistles knew Jesus---Peter for example and Jesus' half brother, James. And I suppose that you want to tell us what the last book of the Bible was that was written.

Peter and James and other apostles did not write Gospels. Mark was a young man when he turned back in Paul's first missionary journey. His immaturity is what most believe caused him to go home, enough so that Paul did not want to use him anymore. Certainly John Mark could remember some events from his childhood but that does not mean he was an "eyewitness" nor at an age to be a "follower" of Jesus. There are some who "say" Luke interviewed Mary but there is no proof. Luke would have actually been a 3rd generation Christian. The likelihood that Mary was still alive is possible but not likely. John, Timothy, Titus, Apollos and others were still alive. Luke's gospel does contain some discrepancies from other accounts. Luke clearly denotes that his information was second hand. Luke was one of the last books that were recorded and accepted. Revelation (if you dig hard enough) will actually fall (according to early church fathers) about 79-80. Domitian became emperor of Rome in 81. The persecutions lasted from 81-96. For John to have written the book/letter in 95 really makes no sense. The the biggest part of the persecutions would have all been hind sight at that point.
 
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Peter and James and other apostles did not write Gospels. Mark was a young man when he turned back in Paul's first missionary journey. His immaturity is what most believe caused him to go home, enough so that Paul did not want to use him anymore. Certainly John Mark could remember some events from his childhood but that does not mean he was an "eyewitness" nor at an age to be a "follower" of Jesus. There are some who "say" Luke interviewed Mary but there is no proof. Luke would have actually been a 3rd generation Christian. The likelihood that Mary was still alive is possible but not likely. John, Timothy, Titus, Apollos and others were still alive. Luke's gospel does contain some discrepancies from other accounts. Luke clearly denotes that his information was second hand.

I went back and looked. In no place did I say that Peter or James wrote gospels. Matthew and John were the only two apostles who wrote gospels. Peter and James wrote epistles. I also didn't say that John Mark was a "follower" at the time of Jesus' death and resurrection. He was still a young boy. And I don't "buy" the Luke being a 3rd generation Christian. He relayed more the circumstances of Jesus' birth than any of the other gospel writers. Do you think that He asked someone about the conversations that Mary had with God 3 generations later?
 

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I went back and looked. In no place did I say that Peter or James wrote gospels. Matthew and John were the only two apostles who wrote gospels. Peter and James wrote epistles. I also didn't say that John Mark was a "follower" at the time of Jesus' death and resurrection. He was still a young boy. And I don't "buy" the Luke being a 3rd generation Christian. He relayed more the circumstances of Jesus' birth than any of the other gospel writers. Do you think that He asked someone about the conversations that Mary had with God 3 generations later?

So you are of the assumption that Luke was perhaps 140-160 years old when he died?
 

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This is particularly gruesome....

27 And other men and women were being burned up to their middle and cast down in a dark place and scourged by evil spirits, and having their entrails devoured by worms that rested not. And these were they that had persecuted the righteous and delivered them up.
 

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Before I became a Christian, I wouldn't hesitate to tell someone to 'go to hell.' I wasn't always nice. After I became a Christian and found out what hell really meant, I absolutely cringe when I hear it on tv. Another one is, 'meet you in hell.' I shake my head. It bothers me so badly. They know not what they say.:(
 
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