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Dude... you just told a new driver to go buy a Ferrari...

I started with a Provari. I have tried lots of different gear since then, but never regretted the Provari except the error messages were annoying when I started rebuilding. The P3 took care of the error issue annoyance. The thing about Provaris that still make them a good recommendation is their reliability. When you are starting out you don't have backups for your backups. Getting away from stinkies is tough if your gear is messing up. And... He said best.
 
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There are products in all kinds of price ranges that are capable of providing a person a satisfying vape experience it boils down to what can one afford. Provari is a quality device made here in the USA and hence it carries a USA price tag too, $160.00 and there are higher capacity devices available for a 3rd of that cost like the I-Stick 50 watt. If you can afford the Provari and don't mind that it is limited power in comparison then by all means knock yourself out, I will stick with my Sigelei 150 watt box mod which was under 110 bucks and is more than 6 times the power capability.
 

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There are products in all kinds of price ranges that are capable of providing a person a satisfying vape experience it boils down to what can one afford. Provari is a quality device made here in the USA and hence it carries a USA price tag too, $160.00 and there are higher capacity devices available for a 3rd of that cost like the I-Stick 50 watt. If you can afford the Provari and don't mind that it is limited power in comparison then by all means knock yourself out, I will stick with my Sigelei 150 watt box mod which was under 110 bucks and is more than 6 times the power capability.

I agree on some levels. A Provari is good for RTAs is reliable and can be easily repaired. Agree that I would be happier myself if they would put one out with 30 watts it would be more useful for RDAs. The Sigelei is good for RDAs and the ability to sub ohm otherwise the power is meaningless. Not sure on the reliability and repairs if it is the best. My vaporshark has more power too, but had to go back for a new chip in the first two weeks and now the USB charger port is going bad and needs repair. My previous Provari worked like a champ for a few years. Never needed a repair and sold for close to what I paid for it. Some devices are more disposable and cost effective in the short run. They all have a place. Agree if someone is happy using RDAs something like the Sigelei or REO are good options.
 

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Telling a new vaper, who may or may not decide to stick with it, to drop over $300 in gear purchases right out the gate seems a bit counter productive. Especially telling said person to start out on a rebuildable

That's a recipe for an unhappy person

Depends. Different people are different and he phrased it as best. If it was cheapest best to start up without rebuilding I would say try an istick with a nautilus and some BVC coils. I wish someone had shown me how easy coil building was early on. Surprised I survived my first year or so with Carto tanks. Once I started rebuilding it made a big difference in my happiness vaping. They didn't have any good clearos when I started.
 

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Most of us would define "Best" as whatever fits your vaping style, and/or budget. The eleaf istick is rather popular. The 30w-50w models support sub-ohm atomizers. I use an itaste MVP 20w, with a Nautilus tank, and I'd recommend that for anybody (even a beginner) both for outstanding build quality, AND vape quality. The entire setup can be found for $60-$70 from many online vendors.
 

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Most of us would define "Best" as whatever fits your vaping style, and/or budget. The eleaf istick is rather popular. The 30w-50w models support sub-ohm atomizers. I use an itaste MVP 20w, with a Nautilus tank, and I'd recommend that for anybody (even a beginner) both for outstanding build quality, AND vape quality. The entire setup can be found for $60-$70 from many online vendors.

Vape 101 is a good vendor for shipping and prices on that type of stuff, and yes it would do a good job.
 

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Most of us would define "Best" as whatever fits your vaping style, and/or budget. The eleaf istick is rather popular. The 30w-50w models support sub-ohm atomizers. I use an itaste MVP 20w, with a Nautilus tank, and I'd recommend that for anybody (even a beginner) both for outstanding build quality, AND vape quality. The entire setup can be found for $60-$70 from many online vendors.

I fully agree with your explanation. Everyone has a different 'best' in mind...as you say..it could be budget, design or vaping preferences that will define what would be 'best' to buy.
 

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The DNA 30 chip devices were nowhere as problematic as the new DNA 40 chipped ones and it is actually a bit disheartening that evolve vapor is having the issues they are seeing that they were what the world was mimicking for regulated boxes in the start of the vw box mod beginnings. I only wish that US technology didn't carry such a steep price tag. It seems anything US designed and US built has such a hefty price tag that it is only affordable to the select few instead of the majority. Think about it when the first Hana mod DNA 20 device hit the scene they were nearly 400.00 bucks now you can purchase a SMY 260 watt for 110 dollars and the US devices "DNA" are 40 watt and still a couple hundred dollars. We want a quality device but at an affordable price US companies can't provide this and my question is why? The only US vape products that are affordable by any margin are designed in the states then built in China so they aren't creating any jobs for Americans and it isn't really an American product. It's sad but it's reality.
 

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The other thing is that we as a technology based country are light years behind the Chinese for advanced vapor chips. The Chinese are only just coming into their industrial and technology prime we Americans have put people in outer space why don't we have better and more affordable vape technologies? We can put a man on the moon but we can't build a superior quality vape chip and keep it affordable that's kind of odd don't you think. China has gotten most of their technology from us and the Japanese so why are we lagging behind? I'm not a electronics or computer chip engineer so it isn't like I can do it but you can't tell me in an industry that is exploding like a Super Nova that we can't jump in and be competitive for a piece of the pie.
 

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Can anyone tell me if the iStick 50w is the same physical size and shape as the iStick 30? I wanted an iStick 30 but they're out of stock at the places I know who ship via UPS so I was wondering if I should just spring for the 50.

Also, would the iStick 50w be fine to use my protank 3's with? I already have a few and I want to keep my setup as plug and play as possible for now. Thanks! Still smoking some analogs along with vaping so I want to perfect things as much as I can and transition off the analogs.
 

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Welcome Notorious :)

Do you want a Stick mod, a Tube mod, a Box mod? Do you want variable voltage/variable wattage? Do you want a disposable topper? Do you want to learn to (SAFELY) rebuild coils? Do you want to buy coil heads and then throw them out? Do you want to spend more than $100-200 or less than $100?

What one person likes, another doesn't....
 

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Can anyone tell me if the iStick 50w is the same physical size and shape as the iStick 30? I wanted an iStick 30 but they're out of stock at the places I know who ship via UPS so I was wondering if I should just spring for the 50.

Also, would the iStick 50w be fine to use my protank 3's with? I already have a few and I want to keep my setup as plug and play as possible for now. Thanks! Still smoking some analogs along with vaping so I want to perfect things as much as I can and transition off the analogs.

The iStick 50 is about 1/2 wider than the 30. Yes, you can use your Protank 3's (I use Protank 2s most of the time, and they're great.) I got the 50 first and then a week later got the 30 (more for form factor - it's smaller than the 50 or my MVP2.0s.) Will be great to slip in a pocket (turned off, of course.)
 

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The iStick 50 is about 1/2 wider than the 30. Yes, you can use your Protank 3's (I use Protank 2s most of the time, and they're great.) I got the 50 first and then a week later got the 30 (more for form factor - it's smaller than the 50 or my MVP2.0s.) Will be great to slip in a pocket (turned off, of course.)

Thank you, just what I wanted to know! :)
 

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The other thing is that we as a technology based country are light years behind the Chinese for advanced vapor chips. The Chinese are only just coming into their industrial and technology prime we Americans have put people in outer space why don't we have better and more affordable vape technologies? We can put a man on the moon but we can't build a superior quality vape chip and keep it affordable that's kind of odd don't you think. China has gotten most of their technology from us and the Japanese so why are we lagging behind? I'm not a electronics or computer chip engineer so it isn't like I can do it but you can't tell me in an industry that is exploding like a Super Nova that we can't jump in and be competitive for a piece of the pie.

You consider more power advanced? That's pretty much the only thing the PRC chips have over Evolv and ProVape. They certainly don't have reliability or accuracy...
 
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