The Case for Tolerating E-Cigarettes, New York Times

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Nice find. There are 51 comments now - not all of them well-informed.

(I'd have liked it even better if only they didn't buy into the overinflated association of smokeless tobacco with oral cancer)

'not well-informed' is a very gentlemanly masterpiece in tactfulness :)

My choice of words would be ,well, probably get this post deleted :)
 

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Forcing vaping out of sight will not make them happy. There are so many social control-freaks among us that in time they will come after us in our homes over it, as they are now doing to smokers in San Rafael CA. Vaping is just the latest thing they have targeted people for. Were it not for vapers and smokers they would have to find another reason to target their neighbors, perhaps their oxygen consumption.

The social attack poodles have already gone after people for their weight, what they drive, their dogs, their politics, what they eat, etc, etc, etc...

In my own experience it's become clear there are many among us who are just so very unhappy in their lives they can only seek relief in causing misery to others, or at least harassing them for anything they enjoy. I think it especially galls them that another has something they enjoy, and they have to attack them for it, making up any reason they have to, no matter how specious or ridiculous.

Again, nothing so needs reforming as other people's habits.
 
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In my own experience it's become clear there are many among us who are just so very unhappy in their lives they can only seek relief in causing misery to others, or at least harassing them for anything they enjoy. I think it especially galls them that another has something they enjoy, and they have to attack them for it, making up any reason they have to, no matter how specious or ridiculous.

I think they're all just depressed, they need to start using nicotine.

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I think they're all just depressed, they need to start using nicotine.

:D

I wish they would all just move to Unhappyland and leave us all alone. There are a good many Pacific islands that would work for this purpose, and I'd like to suggest one with a particularly active young volcano in it's pyroclastic cone building stage. One that comes to mind is Krakatau in the Sunda Strait, but I'm sure there are others with more room for the millions of unhappy control-freaks, who it seems can never quite control those around them enough, or ever gain enough power over them.

Erupting volcanoes and pyroclastic flows have a way of distracting one from such pursuits.
 

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I think they're all just depressed, they need to start using nicotine.:D

This ^^^ would certainly help them....

I wish they would all just move to Unhappyland and leave us all alone. There are a good many Pacific islands that would work for this purpose, and I'd like to suggest one with a particularly active young volcano in it's pyroclastic cone building stage. One that comes to mind is Krakatau in the Sunda Strait, but I'm sure there are others with more room for the millions of unhappy control-freaks, who it seems can never quite control those around them enough, or ever gain enough power over them.

Erupting volcanoes and pyroclastic flows have a way of distracting one from such pursuits.

...but this ^^^ would help us!
 

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The social attack poodles have already gone after people for their weight, what they drive, their dogs, their politics, what they eat, etc, etc, etc...

In my own experience it's become clear there are many among us who are just so very unhappy in their lives they can only seek relief in causing misery to others, or at least harassing them for anything they enjoy. I think it especially galls them that another has something they enjoy, and they have to attack them for it, making up any reason they have to, no matter how specious or ridiculous.

Again, nothing so needs reforming as other people's habits.

Yes, but it's not ALL as accidental as we thought.

The anti-weight thing is ALSO coming from Johnson & Johnson's "Robert Woods Johnson Foundation" -- J&J makes Splenda.

The anti-dog thing has some science behind it FOR SOME BREEDS. And a signficant number of deaths. Something that is closer to Chantix than vaping.

I have no idea about the cars.

I'm pretty sure the politics thing got Socrates executed.

But the FUNDED campaign that is killing us is coming from commercial interests, and they have spent 20 years building up matching gov't interests by lobbying for higher and higher taxes to force people to NRT...and now Splenda.
 
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