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The Clapton coil

Discussion in 'Coil Builds' started by mrdee3, Feb 5, 2014.

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  1. asdaq

    asdaq Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Pdib, I think you are on to something there. The riptrip version used 28g for the core and 32 for the wrap. 7 inches of 28 and 36" of 32, but then a lot got trimmed off after the coil was mounted. So it seems the resistance is the same as the core and the wrap dissipates the heat and improves juice contact. Am thinking about giving this a try.

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  2. vap_drifter

    vap_drifter Full Member

    Feb 17, 2014
    midwest
    Electricity always takes the least resistant route but I'm sure some of it is bleeding off into the outer coil as well. I think the outer coils are mainly there to create more heated surface area to trap liquid. Its basically a metal wick wrapped around the main heating coil. This is more then likely the most efficient coil I've seen made yet.

    The only wire I had when I seen this coil for the first time was 32 so I took it a step further and took three strands of 32, twisted them with a drill and used that as the core and spun 32 around the triple 32. Works even better by adding even more surface area to the coil.

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  3. pdib

    pdib Registered Supplier - Offline ECF Veteran

    Nov 23, 2012
    So, I could wrap the fat wire with just about anything? doesn't even have to be resistance wire? Would it maybe be better if it wasn't res.? Worse?

    might be better then, to not have the outer wire get to the posts. last thing you want is some confused electrons. ;)
     
  4. asdaq

    asdaq Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    If it were nr wire, then the current would prefer it. Anyone notice which guitar string was in the video? I know it is .4mm, but is that a d or an e? I'm going to be around an old guitar tomorrow and might bring some cutters.

    Edit: my wikifu tells me that is a g string, the thickest before the wound ones. :)
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  5. vap_drifter

    vap_drifter Full Member

    Feb 17, 2014
    midwest
    Using non resistance wire would just make a short regardless. The non resistant would be the path the current would choose avoiding the resistance wire. all the wire in this coil needs to be resistance wire.

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  6. classwife

    classwife Admin Admin Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Moved to Rebuildable Atomizer Systems from The Modding Forum - Atomizer Mods
     
  7. LReyes66

    LReyes66 Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 30, 2013
    United States
    Anyone tried doing the outer wrap with 30g? I only have rolls of 28 and 30g kanthal

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  8. k3vin

    k3vin Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Aug 31, 2010
    OK USA
  9. pdib

    pdib Registered Supplier - Offline ECF Veteran

    Nov 23, 2012
    duh :facepalm:

    it's a good thing I don't invent stuff.
     
  10. Vwls

    Vwls Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 22, 2013
    AZ
    LOL. [​IMG]
     
  11. Vwls

    Vwls Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 22, 2013
    AZ
    But seriously, this is my next coil adventure. Was watching Rip's video on this a few days ago. Only trouble is none of my atties have post holes large enough for this, and it seems like trapping it will be a gigantic pain in the rear.
     
  12. Vwls

    Vwls Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 22, 2013
    AZ
    Also OP, please share with us what kind of camera you are using. I want.
     
  13. LReyes66

    LReyes66 Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 30, 2013
    United States
    Gonna try this and the flat ....... coil

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  14. vap_drifter

    vap_drifter Full Member

    Feb 17, 2014
    midwest
    Good shots like the one the op took can be achieved by taking good shots as close as possible but in focus and then cropping the pic to just the area your wanting up close. Also any good macro lens will get nice shots like this.

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  15. silber

    silber Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 29, 2013
    Seattle, WA, USA
    Just tried my hand at hand-wrapping some clapton coils in the bathroom. I call it the Crapton coil.

    [​IMG]

    First tip, is you can stop the extra wraps short of the posts and just thread your core wire into the posts. It will glow up and vape the exact same way, tested it. So you don't need a fancy RDA to use these, in this picture I'm using a 4 dollar nimbus clone with tiny post holes.

    I personally noticed that these vape the best when the core and outer wire are the same diameter. The pictured coil is 28ga on 28ga (which is a PAIN to wrap, do not recommend doing it by hand) but I built another 30ga on 28ga one and the glow-up time was insanely long, even using less wraps so the resistance was equal.

    It does vape like a lower resistance coil than it is, but the warm-up time is a lot longer than a normal coil. When I fire it, barely any vapor comes off for around 1 full second. Then it will make a loud popping sound, shoot hot vapor everywhere, burn me a little, and start ....ting forth massive billowy clouds. The warm up time on the 30/28ga one was more like 3 full seconds.

    Over all its a decent coil, but the warm up time makes it a gimmick at best. The flavor is great, the vapor production is decent, but that warm up time... Wold be an awesome vape for high watt regulated mods, but it still gets beat by a regular old coil on mech mods. Just my 2cents.
     
  16. Vwls

    Vwls Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 22, 2013
    AZ
    Good trip report.
     
  17. twgbonehead

    twgbonehead Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Apr 28, 2011
    MA, USA
    Hope this info is helpful:

    A lot of people, when trying to shoot something small, put the camera up very close to the object. This can end up with blurry photos, since the camera doesn't focus well at short distances.

    You can get better results if you back the camera away, and zoom in on the object. (You'll also get better depth-of-field).

    HTH...
     
  18. Mitey F

    Mitey F Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    *Sometimes* this is true. Generally when using an SLR of some sort this will help (to a point) but if you're using a camera with digital zoom (which is more or less useless anyways) this really doesn't help.

    I've been in the market for a somewhat inexpensive DSLR macro lens for some time, and was hoping for some insight.
     
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  19. Kemosabe

    Kemosabe Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Sep 21, 2011
    Roe Dylin
    man do i have my work cut out for myself!

    i havent even done a tinman coil yet. (or a diamond or mundys magic for that matter)

    but this coil / wire wrapping technique looks too good to pass up. i think im gonna try this one first. thanks for posting!
     
  20. MasterofNone

    MasterofNone Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 2, 2013
    New York
    Hmm


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