I cloud chase while snowboarding with no helmet, using rayon caustic soda wick with pure diacetyl custard juice at .000000009 ohms, am i not still a fellow vaper, writing my local congressman so this whole "hobby" we have doesn't get tossed to the marlboro man? Direct your hatred elsewere ecf, that is unless you're plenty satisfied with the wonderful plume and throat hit your blu gives you.
The cloud chasing fad
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In the US I only vape in my home or vehicle... In Prague, non-smokers ask what device I am using and congratulate me for not smoking...
And when I blow clouds around smokers, I get many questions about it and it's been a wonderful way to break the ice with them and introduce them to vaping. Not just cloud chasing, but vaping in general.
I only vape to stay off cigarettes, but I like to vape many different flavors that I don't need because they taste yummy. I also buy mods that I think are cool and have amassed quite the collection of mvps and dna30s along with many protanks. Cloud chasing? Pfffftt... that's silly, they don't need to do that. They are going to cause vaping to get banned because one of them is bound to blow their face off. But vaping won't get banned because of the stuff I use. All those stories of injuries from EGO battery explosions prove that. Look ECF, a baby was badly burned from an EGO battery and vaping is still here! TAKE THAT SILLY CLOUD CHASERS!
when I was smoking I would often take deep drags and before long the cherry would be a half inch long essentialy wasting half my cig. Vaping is much the same for me I enjoy a dense hot inhale. It matters little to me as to how much visible cloud I produce, but I have been told I produce large clouds. Because of this I vape outside with the smokers, enjoying the same company I did when I smoked. I don't bother to stealth vape as I don't enjoy it and what is the point if Im not enjoying it, after all I am well past the point of needing a fix "right now!!!" So I continue with my .2-.25 builds enjoying Unicorn milk the way I like to with mostly the same folks I used to smoke with. If I look silly to nonsmokers and fellow vapers, it is of no consequence to me as I look less silly than laying in a casket.
I have to say when I first started vaping I was on an e-go and a carto tank like most people. It worked rather well until I discovered rebuildables (genesis at the time). I started building lower. 1.3 became 1.0 became .8 and so on. Wow what a flavor boost. Eventually by the time I got into drippers, I'd settled into a happy place at .4Ω and more of a lung hit type draw. This seemed like a much more "natural" style to vape for me, and produced a pretty large cloud, warm vape, great throat hit, and just enough nic at 6mg (Was using 18mg on E-go/carto). At the time I hadn't even heard the term "cloud chasing" I just knew I was happy with what I had. It kept me off smokes, and gave me the vape I desired.
Fast forward about a year and all the sudden tons of people are blowing clouds on a .06 build pushing over 100 watts. I was intrigued and started playing around with new builds for fun (and a parallel box). Look at that! This really is great fun! I used 3 mg or 0 mg nic on super low builds, and mainly used them for show off or do comps at shops... I still stuck to my 6mg .4Ω on my quasar for my main squeeze. I would say this is akin to someone driving a 500 HP muscle car, getting 8 MPG on the weekends, but getting in their 4 cylinder to make their work commute. Sure it's not economical, he's wasting hiis juice (gas) and tearing on his equipment, but he's having a blast. There will always be a niche of people who like having fun and adding more power to things, its the nature of humankind.
All-in-all, I'd say the biggest risk is people going in blind entirely, or mislead by shops/other vapers that are uneducated themselves. This creates a super dangerous scenario. On the other side of the coin, if you are educated, use the right batteries and their limits, know how to build correctly, understand ohms law, and still meter your builds upon completion (regardless of how good you think you are a hard short can occur) then it can be a very fun thing to play around with, and I don't see how it's anything different than overclocking a computer or tuning a car.
I don't think it's a fad really, i'd say it's more of a niche crowd. If you dig it you dig it, if you don't then keep vaping your way. If you like driving your trans am on the weekend, buy a twin turbo kit. If you don't, buy a Prius. Either way it's fine with me as long as you're living life to the fullest and having fun doing it the way you like!
Fast forward about a year and all the sudden tons of people are blowing clouds on a .06 build pushing over 100 watts. I was intrigued and started playing around with new builds for fun (and a parallel box). Look at that! This really is great fun! I used 3 mg or 0 mg nic on super low builds, and mainly used them for show off or do comps at shops... I still stuck to my 6mg .4Ω on my quasar for my main squeeze. I would say this is akin to someone driving a 500 HP muscle car, getting 8 MPG on the weekends, but getting in their 4 cylinder to make their work commute. Sure it's not economical, he's wasting hiis juice (gas) and tearing on his equipment, but he's having a blast. There will always be a niche of people who like having fun and adding more power to things, its the nature of humankind.
All-in-all, I'd say the biggest risk is people going in blind entirely, or mislead by shops/other vapers that are uneducated themselves. This creates a super dangerous scenario. On the other side of the coin, if you are educated, use the right batteries and their limits, know how to build correctly, understand ohms law, and still meter your builds upon completion (regardless of how good you think you are a hard short can occur) then it can be a very fun thing to play around with, and I don't see how it's anything different than overclocking a computer or tuning a car.
I don't think it's a fad really, i'd say it's more of a niche crowd. If you dig it you dig it, if you don't then keep vaping your way. If you like driving your trans am on the weekend, buy a twin turbo kit. If you don't, buy a Prius. Either way it's fine with me as long as you're living life to the fullest and having fun doing it the way you like!
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Well, until a decent 100 watt mod drops under 50 USD and also has decent reliability... I'll be using my mechanical mods. Power over safety sells more mods to kids? I can understand your position up to a point... But I cannot completely agree as not all "cloud chasers" are kids. I, myself, am an able adult that knows what I'm doing while "cloud chasing" and know several people that do it safely as well. Judging everyone by what you see in a vape shop or "YouTube" is just silly. Everyone should know now that YouTube is full of people degrading themselves for views and subs.
I typically use my KFL or Magma (single coil) with 6mg juice, but when I want a big lung filling slap in the face jolt of nic I will use one of my "cloud devices" for a few hits just to get the nic surge. Or, when a friend and I are playing around, we will have a short 'cloud' session and then back to our 'all day' vapes.
Okay, this is getting ridiculous. ECF is somehow turning into a big safe haven for vaping elitist ...... who think their way is the best way, and anyone who disagrees is somehow below them. No matter what we all need to remember everyone is going to have different preferences for THEIR own experience vaping.
Just because you are perfectly content with your set up does not mean someone else should be. Saying cloud chasing is ridiculous because it doesn't mimic smoking anymore is the most asinine thing I've ever heard. Okay, I guess we should all buy a Blu and call it a day. I'm a cloud chaser, and yes I did start vaping to quit cigarettes. But its a hobby for me, and I find it fun and satisfying to blow big clouds and to find ways to make them bigger SAFELY. Vaping being a hobby has kept me off cigarettes. Why do you care what I do compared to you? I'm not harming anyone by doing it. And you can't make the argument that a few idiots venting batteries or blowing clouds in peoples faces makes me like them. Sorry, but that's not the majority of people. Instead of criticizing it, how about you try to understand it and help people if they don't know what they are doing. That's what ECF is about. Not to cast judgment on others. I could have just as easily vented a battery when Genesis atomizers were popular when you used SS mesh as a wick and could much more easily short out a battery or have a potential safety issue, but you didn't see people crying foul back then.
Just because you are perfectly content with your set up does not mean someone else should be. Saying cloud chasing is ridiculous because it doesn't mimic smoking anymore is the most asinine thing I've ever heard. Okay, I guess we should all buy a Blu and call it a day. I'm a cloud chaser, and yes I did start vaping to quit cigarettes. But its a hobby for me, and I find it fun and satisfying to blow big clouds and to find ways to make them bigger SAFELY. Vaping being a hobby has kept me off cigarettes. Why do you care what I do compared to you? I'm not harming anyone by doing it. And you can't make the argument that a few idiots venting batteries or blowing clouds in peoples faces makes me like them. Sorry, but that's not the majority of people. Instead of criticizing it, how about you try to understand it and help people if they don't know what they are doing. That's what ECF is about. Not to cast judgment on others. I could have just as easily vented a battery when Genesis atomizers were popular when you used SS mesh as a wick and could much more easily short out a battery or have a potential safety issue, but you didn't see people crying foul back then.
Not a day goes by that I don't ask the Good Lord to grant me approval and acceptance from stevegmu
Just saw this thread after a few days absence from my keyboard, and without reading through all 22 pages I have a very similar (hoping it was not brought up in the 20 pages I did not read) issue just like this one!
In the recent past (well, most of my 20's) I was involved in amateur diesel mechanic activities on pickup trucks. I was on several forums, and I watched the craze on the bigger forums of new people coming on and asking "how do I make my truck smoke more?". This was very common on the bigger forums, and people got laughed off smaller forums/tighter knit communities for asking such questions.
You may ask, how does this relate to the subject of this thread- WELL, I watched the diesel craze from the beginning, to where it is now. Before there were 3 mainstream diesel magazines, before there were countless forums on the internet, before everyone was out to make huge HP and TQ from engines in trucks supplied by the Big 3. People wanted a lot of black smoke, it was 'cool'. Being honest, I went through that phase too, though I grew out of it pretty quickly.
Black smoke from diesels got the EPA on the backs of the people who make and sell these trucks. Emissions controls way way stricter than close previous years have been enacted over the past 8 years. It sucked. It still sucks. It drove up manufacture cost, and cost the end user mileage that diesels once touted over similar gasoline counterpart.
With all that said, I could see the "cloud chasing" just being more ammo (regardless of people blowing their hands and faces and mods apart) for the FDA to have against something that has helped myself, people of this forum, and countless numbers in the states and abroad.
Just my
and how I see this subject. I am not really for or against cloud chasing as I feel people should be able to do whatever they wish with their lives/what they choose to do. Within reason of course.
In the recent past (well, most of my 20's) I was involved in amateur diesel mechanic activities on pickup trucks. I was on several forums, and I watched the craze on the bigger forums of new people coming on and asking "how do I make my truck smoke more?". This was very common on the bigger forums, and people got laughed off smaller forums/tighter knit communities for asking such questions.
You may ask, how does this relate to the subject of this thread- WELL, I watched the diesel craze from the beginning, to where it is now. Before there were 3 mainstream diesel magazines, before there were countless forums on the internet, before everyone was out to make huge HP and TQ from engines in trucks supplied by the Big 3. People wanted a lot of black smoke, it was 'cool'. Being honest, I went through that phase too, though I grew out of it pretty quickly.
Black smoke from diesels got the EPA on the backs of the people who make and sell these trucks. Emissions controls way way stricter than close previous years have been enacted over the past 8 years. It sucked. It still sucks. It drove up manufacture cost, and cost the end user mileage that diesels once touted over similar gasoline counterpart.
With all that said, I could see the "cloud chasing" just being more ammo (regardless of people blowing their hands and faces and mods apart) for the FDA to have against something that has helped myself, people of this forum, and countless numbers in the states and abroad.
Just my
and how I see this subject. I am not really for or against cloud chasing as I feel people should be able to do whatever they wish with their lives/what they choose to do. Within reason of course.
Never had stack(s) myself but have several friends that have/had stacks. Not my thing though back to my previous post, I don't preach control over others.
I did however have a 6" diameter tip on my exhaust.
I look back on things, I don't chase clouds; though at one point in my life clouds chased me.
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Never had stack(s) myself but have several friends that have/had stacks. Not my thing though back to my previous post, I don't preach control over others.
I did however have a 6" diameter tip on my exhaust.
I look back on things, I don't chase clouds; though at one point in my life clouds chased me.
That's amateur stuff there. There's a hillbilly at work- great maintenance guy, though, who has a jacked up diesel Ford with big enough diameter stacks to drop cantaloupes in and produces enough black smoke to fill the parking lot. I do like hearing the turbo spool up, though...
I have seen trucks like that. 
Smoke, lift, yada yada went out of 'coolness' for me well before I left the diesel community; things I was more into toward my endings were:
Flying trucks!
Smoke, lift, yada yada went out of 'coolness' for me well before I left the diesel community; things I was more into toward my endings were:
Flying trucks!
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I know it nay be difficult to follow, but cloud chasing is the extreme of vaping and top fuel drag racing is the extreme of automotive racing, but at the end of the day my Audi will beat the fastest drag car in a road race, and my ProVari will give me an all day vape, while the cloud chaser will run out of battery after a few extreme vapes...
I know it nay be difficult to follow, but cloud chasing is the extreme of vaping and top fuel drag racing is the extreme of automotive racing, but at the end of the day my Audi will beat the fastest drag car in a road race, and my ProVari will give me an all day vape, while the cloud chaser will run out of battery after a few extreme vapes...
Just saw this thread after a few days absence from my keyboard, and without reading through all 22 pages I have a very similar (hoping it was not brought up in the 20 pages I did not read) issue just like this one!
In the recent past (well, most of my 20's) I was involved in amateur diesel mechanic activities on pickup trucks. I was on several forums, and I watched the craze on the bigger forums of new people coming on and asking "how do I make my truck smoke more?". This was very common on the bigger forums, and people got laughed off smaller forums/tighter knit communities for asking such questions.
You may ask, how does this relate to the subject of this thread- WELL, I watched the diesel craze from the beginning, to where it is now. Before there were 3 mainstream diesel magazines, before there were countless forums on the internet, before everyone was out to make huge HP and TQ from engines in trucks supplied by the Big 3. People wanted a lot of black smoke, it was 'cool'. Being honest, I went through that phase too, though I grew out of it pretty quickly.
Black smoke from diesels got the EPA on the backs of the people who make and sell these trucks. Emissions controls way way stricter than close previous years have been enacted over the past 8 years. It sucked. It still sucks. It drove up manufacture cost, and cost the end user mileage that diesels once touted over similar gasoline counterpart.
With all that said, I could see the "cloud chasing" just being more ammo (regardless of people blowing their hands and faces and mods apart) for the FDA to have against something that has helped myself, people of this forum, and countless numbers in the states and abroad.
Just my
I think comparing vapor to emissions from a diesel are two VERY different things....toxic smoke ≠ ecigarette vapor. A better comparison would be a fog machine at a concert....which is not toxic....because ya'know....its the same exact thing sans flavoring/nicotine.
You're telling me your Audi could take a 70' Hemi Cuda in a drag race? I think you're putting something more than eliquid in your mod....
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