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mwa102464

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The DC SHEcho Cartos are really kicking some .... and running far superior to the older original ones. I have been running mine now for close to 2 weeks and they both are still running like the day I filled them and that's just really super guys.

I however feel there is an issue with the Auto Echo Batts, Tony was kind enough to send me a new one because one of mine died but now my second one has died. I feel that over the course of only a couple of months that these Batts being Auto that a very small amount of liquid gets into them over time and then the electronics in them get wet and the Batt starts to fail (same issue with every Auto Batt I have ever owned) It would be nice if Hangson made the Manual version now for these since this is happening. I'm going to be dissecting 2 of my dead Echo Batts today to make sure this is in fact the problem but I'm laying steep odds it is.


Is anyone else having or had this issue ?
 

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Thanks, I had already tried that. It did not help. But, it does bring up a helpful clue in the troubleshooting process...

At this point I think the vents (notches) in the skirt are too shallow. The carto has a very airy draw when disconnected from a battery. Time for Mr Dremel.

Thanks, JJ

I've said this for a while too, I really believe it would be nice to see only 2 vent slots instead of 4 to tighten up the Draw a bit on these original cartos. I actually take some black electrical tape and tape of 3 of the slots and leave one or sometimes 2 open so they breath differently and it also tightens up the draw a little bit and I seem to get a bit more flavor from them like this and an overall better vape, even though all in all these newer DC Echo catos are the best darn carto on the market now in my opinion!!
 
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Am I right in assuming that you're talking about big tobacco getting into the PV game?

Read an article in Forbes magazine (about a month ago) that Altria / Phillip Morris were doing their R&D etc. for their entrance into the electronic market. Also seem to recall they were in talks or negotiating with an established chinese manufacturer.
 
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The DC SHEcho Cartos are really kicking some .... and running far superior to the older original ones. I have been running mine now for close to 2 weeks and they both are still running like the day I filled them and that's just really super guys.

I however feel there is an issue with the Auto Echo Batts, Tony was kind enough to send me a new one because one of mine died but now my second one has died. I feel that over the course of only a couple of months that these Batts being Auto that a very small amount of liquid gets into them over time and then the electronics in them get wet and the Batt starts to fail (same issue with every Auto Batt I have ever owned) It would be nice if Hangson made the Manual version now for these since this is happening. I'm going to be dissecting 2 of my dead Echo Batts today to make sure this is in fact the problem but I'm laying steep odds it is.


Is anyone else having or had this issue ?

I've been using mine for over three months now and I haven't had a problem with a failure or getting juice in them but I always remove the carto from the battery when re-filling.
 

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Has anyone received a new Echo-E carto that had a tight draw right from the start? Vapor/flavor are good but the draw is way too tight. Like molasses through a straw. Suggestions?

Thanks, JJ

Did you check the two tiny holes on the battery? I had mine plug up on one battery and I ran a needle through them and then it vaped good.
 

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Did you check the two tiny holes on the battery? I had mine plug up on one battery and I ran a needle through them and then it vaped good.

Uh, I didn't know batteries had tiny holes. I'm talking about an eGo style battery. Looking very closely at one now and not sure what you mean.
 

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I've said this for a while too, I really believe it would be nice to see only 2 vent slots instead of 4 to tighten up the Draw a bit on these. I actually take some black electrical tape and tape of 3 of the slots and leave one or sometimes 2 open so they breath differently and it also tightens up the draw a little bit and I seem to get a bit more flavor from them like this and an overall better vape, even though all in all these newer DC Echo catos are the best darn carto on the market now in my opinion!!

I think JJ was having the opposite problem. His carto was too tight of a draw. I think the new Duals might have a slightly tighter draw and I wouldn't want mine any tighter but everyone is different. It is just right for me and I'm really liking the flavor and hit as is.:2cool:
 

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Oh I was talking about the echo battery. They have two tiny holes right below the threads.

Okay, thanks for trying though. This is the first Echo-E carto to give me this problem. The draw is fine when disconnected from the battery. As soon as I screw it on even just a few turns, the draw really tightens up. (not the threads, they are still loose)

I thought about hitting the 4 notches with a Dremel. But the more I look at it, I don't think that will help. If the draw is too tight with the carto only screwed on halfway, then the notches are not an issue.

Hmmm. Confusing.
 

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I think I may be dragging this thread off topic a bit, and for that I apologize. But please bear with me as I think this will be a very quick aside.

The descriptions of the volt indicator linked by JimmyJet above says "These indicators may not work properly with batteries that use linear or pulsing regulators..."

Now, I don't really know what that sentence means. But it does seem that the Echo battery is regulated in some way. Can anyone tell me if it seems likely that the Echo's regulation would be "linear or pulsing" and therefore this voltage indicator would not work?

My ultimate goal is to understand how the Echo battery is behaving under load (and compare that behavior to other unregulated batteries I have).

I may be a n00b but, couldn't you just get a 2 ohm resistor (or whatever the impedance of the atomizer is) and use that in-line with the volt meter and battery?
 

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I'm pretty sure that's a new revision Giantomizer. It's just that my echo carto died in about a day and the second one tasted like cold burnt plastic from the get go. Distributor said he's talking to Hangsen but haven't seen a reply from him since Friday. Might hear back tomorrow.

It tickles me when I hear about the new dual coil echo cartos coming.
Just gotta wait until they work the kinks out...
Yeah, not sure I'll jump on that considering there seems to be a hard enough time getting the single coil ones right. :glare:
 

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It tickles me when I hear about the new dual coil echo cartos coming.
Just gotta wait until they work the kinks out...
Yeah, not sure I'll jump on that considering there seems to be a hard enough time getting the single coil ones right. :glare:

Oh on the new DC Carto the kinks are all worked out trust me these things Rock ! I was speaking more about the older ones as far as covering 2 of the slots as well, these newer DC's are just right all the way around in my opinion and the draw, vape, and everything about them is right spot on. On the Auto Batts maybe I just got a bad set I had purchased one of the very first sets when they first came out, the newer Batt Tony sent me is also working flawlessly so I'm gonna have to just by a 2nd because I have to run two of my top flavors in these DC Echos all the time, there just super and that's no Bull
 

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I thought about hitting the 4 notches with a Dremel. But the more I look at it, I don't think that will help. If the draw is too tight with the carto only screwed on halfway, then the notches are not an issue.

For the sake of sharing experience, I did go ahead and hit the 4 notches with a Dremel. As I suspected, the draw did not improve. Still way too stiff. Also a bit harsh, but that's probably from the stiff draw. I think I'll move on and lay this particular Echo-E carto to rest.

Not the end of the world. We're gonna get a dud now & then. Now I'm one carto closer to trying the two DCE-E's sitting here on my desk. Haven't touched them yet because I have about 5 half-used cartos already in the rotation.

Thanks to everyone who tried to help me.

JJ
 

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Short story: Dipped my echo batt partly into water led face up to clean off some Eco mod glue from GotVapes, battery still works.

Long story: I was using my EMDCC with the Echo batts (with adapter) and the adapter got stuck in the carto. After trying a bunch of different things I decided to glue it onto the echo batt and then take off the carto. Didn't work, but the glue had blocked off the batts airholes so I used hot water to remove it. Dipped and washed it 1/4 of the way under water, connector post down and it works fine.

Just sharing, in case, y'know... You wanna dip your echo batt in water?
 

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Which drip tips fit the Echo cartos? I was under the impression it was an 801 but Mountain Vapor only has the 510/901 and states they fit the Echo cartomizers perfectly. Cropduster and D&B are selling 801 DT's. What's up... do they all fit?

I have some of the 801 tips and they fit great. They are a little tight on some Echo carto's due to variances in manufacturing but work fine. The 510 ones will be to small unless they have one heck of an o-ring on them. Lol
 

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I have some of the 801 tips and they fit great. They are a little tight on some Echo carto's due to variances in manufacturing but work fine. The 510 ones will be to small unless they have one heck of an o-ring on them. Lol

Great, thanks. You still loving the dual coil Echo carto? Maybe someone who has gotten a DT from Mountain Vapor could jump in and add their two cents.
 
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