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Nice thread TX. Echo looks like a great product. All the horizontal coil systems seem to be far out front in the e-cig world right now. IGo, Echo, Gogo all are cutting edge and deliver on flavor, vapor and TH, all with no muss, no fuss. Each has it's own niche in the vaping community but it all boils down to personal preference and minor details. In the long haul, they all deliver. I got a couple echo-e cartos that I'm dying to try as soon as this boge lr dies on me. But The dam thing is like the energizer bunny though, it just keeps going and going and going. I got a KGO 1100 that is just chomping at the bit for one of those echo-e cartos. Looks like I'll have to wait at least 3 or 4 months before It will lose it's kick before I can play mad scientist and take it apart though.

You're funny! Why wait to try it? I have some coming too and that's the 1st thing I'll do. If you wait till your Boge dies to try it and end up kicking yourself for waiting, what have you gained? imho
 

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A carry idea for the 650 Echo. I normally put these in my shirt pocket but for those times when I am bending over a lot or don't have a shirt with a pocket on, I found this old eyeglass case - it's a Walgreens one I think. Perfect for slipping into the front pants pocket without worrying that I will snap off the connection or lose the tip.

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Anyone found a charger that will work on these other than the stock charger? Li-Ion tech is good for at least 1C charge rates (some up to 5C). This should mean that we could safely charge the big ones at 1300ma and the small ones at 650ma allowing 1 hour charge rates. The stock charger's weak 150ma charge rate is way too slow. I only sleep about 6 hours per night, and it didn't even get my 1300 fully charged by the time I had to head out this morning :(. At 150ma, if you fully drain your 1300ma battery, it will take almost 9 hours to charge it up. I connected it to a stock KR808 charger to no avail, as well as a Riva charger and no dice. I'd really like to be able to charge them somewhere between 300-600ma.
 

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i have noticed that my 3ml echo carto goes dry little before the battery dies. i go through almost 2 carto fulls per day and i vape maybe little more than the average person (maybe even twice as much). im my case, i get anywhere from 8 to 10 hours our of a full carto and 12-14 hours out of a fully charged battery. this thread reminds me of reading the go-go thread few weeks back, nothing but positive feedback, no leaking, nothing but plug-n-play. after couple months of using the ego and reg size cartos, even tho the repeated filling never really was a bother to me i now realize what its like to just fill the thing and not worry at all while i work. when im done working i fill once more, replace battery and im good until i go to bed at night. you that vape 3 ml's or less have finally found something that will last you all day (juice and battery included) without having to drag along something that looks like a walkie-talkie.
 

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i was just looking at the same thing. it takes about 9 hours to charge an empty 1300 battery at 150mA, my riva charger puts out 420mA but obviously the threading doesnt work for the echo batt. wonder if a guy could use a 808/901-to-510 adapter on the charger? it would cut down the charging time to less than half.
 
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i was just looking at the same thing. it takes about 9 hours to charge an empty 1300 battery at 150mA, my riva charger puts out 420mA but obviously the threading doesnt work for the echo batt. wonder if a guy could use a 808/901-to-510 adapter on the charger? it would cut down the charging time to less than half.

I haven't really timed mine but I thought it was about 5 hours. I'm not home to check but why can't you just plug the USB plug into a higher MA charger or into your computer?
I have two sets so it really isn't a problem for me but 9 hrs is an awful long time.
 
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Hello Vapers!

I received my Chrome Echo with 2 blank "echomizers" and the 1300mAh batteries on the 19th. The box is the most attractive of any e-cigarette packaging I've ever seen with the gold leaf and magic magnetic flap!

I don't know how they make the 1300mAh only 3/16ths of an inch longer than my mega cylinder eGo 900mAh (which I've been using for 6 months). I charged the batteries and tried dripping into the echomizer. After 12 or 13 drops of Chocolate (my fav), I realized using my syringe would be much quicker and more accurate because you don't want to get any e-juice in the atomizer opening in the center. I filled the syringe to 3ml stuck it along the side of the echomizer to the bottom and squeezed. Bingo! In about 2 seconds it was full and no muss or waiting for the filter to absorb it (it's somewhat compressed to start with).

Note: I would suggest removing the echomizer from the battery when filling and wiping the bottom (battery contact area of the echomizer) to avoid any possibility of fouling the battery.

I then screwed on the battery and began to vape at 4:30PM. Wow! Lots of vapor, but for some reason it didn't seem as though I was drawing hard enough to produce so much. This unit has an excellent light draw! Every hit was consistently the same (unlike my eGo) and more importantly it felt much cooler than my eGo which impressed me. Also the flavor was much richer, great throat hit and after a few hours it seemed the small 11mg nicotine was 16mg! Go figure!

I vape constantly (when conscious) so I continued getting consistent hits until 11PM that evening. I woke up at 5AM (I'm a morning person) and immediately began vaping. Every hit had excellent TH and cool, easy drawing with always consistent (and plentiful, flavorful vapor). around 5PM that evening I began to wonder when my Echo was going to stop. At 8PM the vapor pretty much stopped (with absolutely no burnt taste) and five minutes later the battery began flashing. I suddenly realized I had been vaping consistently (minus the 6 hour sleep) for 21.5 hours! Great Godfrey!

A few comments: If you have been using a manual e-cig for a period of time before getting your Echo, you will find yourself rotating your e-cig to find a button that is not there (much like an amputee still "feeling" their missing appendage). Also, the automatic battery works smoothly and effectively after holding it up to a blasting stereo, whacking the unit in my palm, etc. No cutoff as long as you are drawing. The Echo has the automatic technology down!

All in all, I can't think of a better personal vaporizer on the planet. You'll never be sorry investing in an Echo.

Echo (ek’ỡ) n., [< Gr. ẽchỡ]
1. an innovation in e-cigarettes. 2. massive vapor production.
3. cool, flavorful vaping. 4. a 24 hour consistent, hassle-free
performance. 5. smooth drawing as well. 6. best value for the
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Great post! I'm glad you like it as much as I do. I'm getting about 10-12 hours on a carto and about 16-18 on a battery. My PV is never out of reach and seldom out of my hand now with the auto I can even clench it with my teeth when I need or want too.
 

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I will have to check mine out when I get home this afternoon. Who did you get yours from? I got mine from cropdusters, maybe they are different. I can't understand why they would only have a 150 ma adaptor with a 500 ma charger unless for some reason the battery won't take that fast of a charge. Maybe has something to do with how they get 1300 mah out of that small of a battery. I know my other 1300 Ego was much longer with the same 14mm diameter. The other 1300 batteries are all 16.5 mm Diameter but shorter. I got about 17-18 hours of use out of the other 1300's except for the Go-Go I got as high as 21 hrs on it.
 
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You're funny! Why wait to try it? I have some coming too and that's the 1st thing I'll do. If you wait till your Boge dies to try it and end up kicking yourself for waiting, what have you gained? imho

Reread my post and realize it might be confusing. My Boge Carto is probably two weeks old of steady vaping. I expect it to start under performing any day now. since the echo carto is supposed to last at least 100days, I don't expect to be able to tear it apart and see how the filler goes in and out for at least that long. No, I have an echo-e sitting right here at the starting line ready to go as soon as this boge runs dry. Which is any minute now. :)
 

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Reread my post and realize it might be confusing. My Boge Carto is probably two weeks old of steady vaping. I expect it to start under performing any day now. since the echo carto is supposed to last at least 100days, I don't expect to be able to tear it apart and see how the filler goes in and out for at least that long. No, I have an echo-e sitting right here at the starting line ready to go as soon as this boge runs dry. Which is any minute now. :)

I took the filler out of the echo carto I broke and it is almost identical to the Go-Go filler maybe a little fluffier but it was prertty new. It has the same two pieces of filler but a little bigger. BillB was able to use your method of cleaning and reinserting the filler in his iGo which has the same cone design as the Echo of course the e-carto will be a little smaller than the standard carto but I expect an expert like you won't have a problem with it.
 

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my 1300 battery just went dead, put it charging 1 minute ago...i will post back here when its fully charged.

i have also noticed that these batteries perform the same until they go dead. maybe the volt decline is so gradual that i dont notice it? TX, you said the go-go drops off somewhat noticable toward the end of the battery charge...have you noticed the same on the echo? unless my head is playing tricks on me, i dont see a decline in voltage.
 
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By the way, not raining on the Echo parade here with the charging concerns. Love this unit other than the charge time.

My Rivas are 901 threaded, but I still needed a couple 808-901 adapters to get it to make contact with the Echo battery. Unfortunately, no joy :(.

Did you get yours from mtn vapor or Crpduster? I think cropdusters are 901 and mtn vapors are 808 threaded and have a blue led instead of red like the 901's. I'm not positive about that but is what I think.
 
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