The Echo Thread

[EtherMagic]

The only vendors that I know of who carry them are NHaler, and MountainVapor (excellent pricing and is in stock).
I would also recommend Elite Vapor Works for their 808 cartos, make excellent juice testers at $9 for 5!

Thanks much DarthVper!

I also found the Chrome Carto's on Cropduster901 site, they are $4.50. Tony made me a deal with my black Carto's, buy 4 get 1 free, I just got home, I already left him a message asking if he can do me the same deal on the Chrome.


NHaler got an awesome price on them, they are out of stock though from what I see.


Thanks again man, much appreciated!




Ether

 

[GMalarkey]

I wouldn't mix the 2 if you want the true flavor of that RY4, your best bet is filling a new carto with it all day long !

I just may have to do that, glad I ordered the extras now!

 

[DarthVper]

Thanks much DarthVper!

I also found the Chrome Carto's on Cropduster901 site, but they are $4.50, kinda expensive. Tony made me a deal with my black Carto's, buy 4 get 1 free, I just got home, I already left him a message asking if he can do me the same deal on the Chrome.

NHaler got an awesome price on them, they are out of stock though from what I see.


Thanks again man, much appreciated!




Ether

I updated my previous post. Also I will say that 4 cartos for $14.50 is $3.63 per, vs 5 cartos for $18 is $3.60 per (if you get the deal you mentioned). That's all I'll say on that.

 

[mwa102464]

Okay yeah but would you agree at some point you will have only the RY4 after refilling the carto? I guess I see your point, okay new plan, power-vape the rest of your USA mix in the carto or waste it by cleaning it out. Then enjoy the RY4 full strength, hope you like it!

I really dont, I find once you fill a carto/Atty with a flavor you should run that flavor in it forever ( I do ) once the heating element in an Atty/Carto get the juice flavor to the wick, heating element, and in the filler it just never seems to be the same if you load another juice in it as a new carto with a fresh juice in it, this is why I always stick to one flavor per Carto/Atty. I'm sure plenty of people do what your saying so save $ but to me it just isnt worth it, compared to the cost of a pack of smokes for one and as for the true flavor of a juice I feel that juice and flavor are impacted by the first flavor ran in a Carto/Atty so I stick to one Carto/Atty per Juice/flavor always. This is just me !

 

[GMalarkey]

The only vendors that I know of who carry them are NHaler, and MountainVapor (excellent pricing and is in stock).
I would also recommend Elite Vapor Works for their 808 cartos, make excellent juice testers at $9 for 5!

Back to Mountain Vapor for a sec - I might also suggest their USB chargers (not to be confused with USB passthrus, there's a significant difference!) as you want to be able to charge both batteries at once, trust me.





Those flavors should not "clash". I'd say start dripping the RY4 in and after a while you'll start to get a "flavor transition" then the full RY4 after a while (depends how much ml you go thru, for me that'd take about 4 hours lol). You may like the combination you get in the middle, but I don't see it as possibly being bad. USA mix goes with virtually everything, I use it often to tobacco-ize fruity flavors or give sweetness to harsh or dull ones. So my advice it to have at it.

Hadn't thought about using the USA Mix like that, thanks for the great idea!

 

[EtherMagic]

I updated my previous post. Also I will say that 4 cartos for $14.50 is $3.63 per, vs 5 cartos for $18 is $3.60 per (if you get the deal you mentioned). That's all I'll say on that.

Awesome math DarthV! That def helps!


Well, Tony from Cropduster901 just called me back, and he is receiving the 1300 Crome Echo's today! He only ordered 5 to see how they would sell, and I just bought one off him (woohoooo!!! ) so there is only 4 left! He gave me a CRAZY good price on the kit too!


Tony gave me the same deal on the Carto's, which is AWESOME!!! I bought 10 got 2 FREE! He also hooked me up with a free goody bag aswell, which is too cool!


Tony and his wife give exceptional service, one of kind, Just awesome!


BTW, Tony told me he also has some 650 Chrome on the way, I told him the second he gets them in he better be calling me, one of those baby's is mine!



Ether

 

[JimmyJet]

I only add these comments for the newbies, as this has been discussed at length in previous posts...

Echos are great cartos, but they are not well suited for testing new flavors. That is not the purpose of high capacity cartos. Testing new flavors is a path of its own and the methodology depends greatly on your hardware.

My hardware is eGo/510, and I test new flavors using Boge LR 510 cartos.

Those with other hardware combos can chime in.

JJ

 

[melloyello]

i have my riva with an atty that i test my new flavors in.no matter how bad the juice it, i still find a way to use it up, sometimes i have to mix it with another juice that i dont care for either, and in most cases it makes it vapable. often all i need to do is to add menthol to it and it makes it worthwhile for me. i seldom use the same carto for strictly one flavor, i run out of juice half the time before the carto goes bad. if you do drip in other juice from the top (not syringe filling) the 2 liquids do not mix themselves as if it was shaken around in a bottle, the top juice slowly sinks in as the bottom juice is being used up. although you dont get the true flavor of the second juice right away, it wont take forever until you do.
if you vape cinnamon or some other stronger liquid, it will take much longer to "get rid" of the taste.

 

[peacewillow]

Ok I have an update on the cleaning I did 4 or 5 days ago but first sad news. I may have gotten extremely drunk last night and somehow lost one of my Echo sets. was very sad. Came home and got my other battery and was happy. Then that battery died. I have 3 echo batteries and an adapter so I was ok for an hour but then realized those were not charged. I know how dumb am I. Anyway, I did get my Reo mini today and luckly the batteries charged really fast. I was vaping away on a 510 atty when I decided to try my Echo carto on the reo with the adapter. Well it looks strange (because the carto is as long as the mini) but it works great!!!!!!!!
Then decided to try out one of the cartos that I cleaned. I had boiled them twice for 15 min then blew them out and let dry for 5 days. Took one out and filled. I did get a lot of juice in it. Filled just like normal though probably less juice. Maybe 80-90 drops instead of 100-120. Let it sit for about 20 min to see if it needed more juice and it was fine. Popped it on my mini and started vaping. Well, it's ok but really not great. The cleaned carto is not tight at all but the flavor is a lot less. After about 10 vapes I got a bit of a burned taste, just a tad but it worried me. Looked at the top of the filler and still very wet so I vaped a little more and got more burnt taste. not working so well. I did push to bottle to bottom feed and that took the burnt taste away but the flavor was still muted. 10 vapes later and had to re squank. I will try the others later but very disappointed. I still can't find a straw that fits the inner tubes. I did buy a bunch of Boge cartos for my mini so I think that to save money I will only use light juice in the Echo cartos. I really do love them but I only get one to maybe two days with my dark juices and they are pricy. Light juice in the Echo and dark juice in my Reo bottom feeder should be a good option. If someone has had better luck with cleaning let me know.

 

[txtumbleweed]

I just lost a echo today too. I was playing football with my grandson and I guess I dropped it in the grass.

 

[txtumbleweed]

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[peacewillow]

Noooooo we should have a funeral for missing or lost Echos. Maybe someone will find them and pick up vaping?

 

[jackiejunque]

Dumb question here? How do I know if an Echo cart is dead or just needs cleaning? I've gone quite a few since I got my first Echo. When I have to do a power drag to get any vapor at all its time to get a new one. I really am not the type to get fancy with cleaning them. Usually a few forceful injections of vodka is about all I do. So how do I tell if its dead or just sick?

Tumbleweed....so sorry for your loss.

Jackie

 

[JimmyJet]

I just lost an echo today too. I was playing football with my grandson and I guess I dropped it in the grass.

Tex, that is precisely what grandsons are for. Take him back to the football field and offer him $5 to find your lost Echo. His young eyes will find it for sure. It's a win-win for both of you. Speaking from experience, bring as many youngsters as possible. They will find it. Kinda like an Easter Egg hunt.

JJ

 

[mohawkx]

Dumb question here? How do I know if an Echo cart is dead or just needs cleaning? I've gone quite a few since I got my first Echo. When I have to do a power drag to get any vapor at all its time to get a new one. I really am not the type to get fancy with cleaning them. Usually a few forceful injections of vodka is about all I do. So how do I tell if its dead or just sick?

Tumbleweed....so sorry for your loss.

Jackie

None of them are dead. If you pull the filler and dry burn the coil, you will find that there is nothing wrong with the carto. Getting the cleaned filler back in properly is the whole trick though. Then again, buying a new one is not such a bad idea if you don't like to tinker.

 

[x3x]

A 801 drip tip will work best. I like the aluminum whistle tip or the delrin drip tip from Ikenvape. The rubber whistle tip off a 801 cartridge also works. If you push the tip that comes with it on past the stopping point it will stay on much better. You have to push and twist pretty hard to get it to go on farther.

u sure it'll work ? cus its 901 threading

 

[DarthVper]

None of them are dead. If you pull the filler and dry burn the coil, you will find that there is nothing wrong with the carto. Getting the cleaned filler back in properly is the whole trick though. Then again, buying a new one is not such a bad idea if you don't like to tinker.

oh really?

 

[SonnyCrack]

u sure it'll work ? cus its 901 threading

Yes.. I'm using one now.. They work perfect.

 

[txtumbleweed]

u sure it'll work ? cus its 901 threading

It is the diameter of the end of the carto not the battery connection. I have lots of different 801 drip tips and whistle tips that work. Only the one I got from Nhaler didn't work properly.

 

[OMG!]

Darthvper sorry to hear your having burning issues. I have not had any so far and have used a LOT of these because my juice is so sweet. I don't touch the filler until I notice flavor going down then just gently push it down a little and vape away. When flavor goes down again I do it again. Someone said that it is good to keep these somewhat topped off. I don't vape them totally dry. Usually refill when I get home from work even though they don't need it. I am on day two of drying the ones I boiled. I changed the tissue and will dry another couple days without the tissue. Hoping this works better then taking them apart. Still haven't found the right size straw for putting back together the four I dry burned anyone know where I can get those straws?

I got a bag of the perfect sized straws at my local dollar store named "Deals". They are meant to be regular drinking straws but they were too small so they've been sitting in a drawer for a while.

As far as cleaning/dry burning goes... I found something that works really great and takes a lot of time and effort out of the cleaning process. When I pulled the cartos out of their ultrasonic vodka bath I didn't rinse them off and then dry burn... I dry burned them with the wicks still soaked in vodka and it took only a few seconds for the crud to burn right off. I don't think you would even need an ultrasonic cleaner... just soak them in vodka and then dry burn with them still wet from the vodka. It took the ECHO cartos completely back to their original state.

As far as rebuilding cleaned cartos... I have a baggie filled with cleaned parts but don't put them together until I'm ready to fill one. When you're ready to fill one, the trick I've learned, is to put a few drops of juice in the carto to soak the wick before you repack with clean filler, then tamp it all down pretty well. I've not had one single wicking problem since I started doing that.