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Many folks are eager to try these. The dual-coil discussion started further back in this thread...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ego-type-models/189567-echo-thread-56.html#post3419440
i havent touched the echo for couple weeks now, i got tired of running through cartos fast. i use boge 2.0 and they last 3 or 4 days, like clock work and a 3rd of the price compared to the echo cartos. i have 2 full echo sets and will keep them as backup. its still a good unit if you cant refill every other hour. i am also getting more vapor from the LR boge carto.
Not to knock the Echo (which is a great carto) but this is a very common theme. This forum is full of posts where people say "I tried cartos x y and z but the Boge 2.0 is still my main vape". I only mention this for the newbies who are not sure where to start with hardware. At $8 for 5 cartos, Boge's are cheap, simple, reliable, and make great vapor.
Boge's at home and Echo's on the road. Works for me.
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You can get them at MadVapes I think. Also I ordered a couple extra batteries for my Echo from Cropduster901 and got the blue led ones this time. Gotta say I like the look of those on the stainless much better.
I just got mine today and realized it's kinda really airy. And then I noticed it had 4 airholes. Any tips on blocking them off permanently? What could I use?
Many suppliers, but MadVapes has the best price I've seen. Yes they work very well on eGo batts.
Refillable 510 Cartomizers 2.0ohm
okay...as a newbee I am getting kinda confused over volts and oms etc. Besides my echo autos I have 808d-1 bats both auto and manual and have just won a 510 kit that is on its way to me. I like my echo but want to try different things as sometimes the carts just do not seem to do well. So I was looking at these boge carts but am confused over the different ohm ratings etc.
I know my 808 bats are 280 mah so that makes them ? volt. And which boge cart would do well?
I do not know anything about about the 510 coming except it is 180 mah fs kit from my pv shop. volt? and which boge for this one?
And can someone tell me what volt the echo is?
And just to make this longer I am understanding that the LR carts require a stronger battery which would equate to more volt?
I know my 808 bats are 280 mah so that makes them ? volt. And which boge cart would do well?
I do not know anything about about the 510 coming except it is 180 mah fs kit from my pv shop. volt? and which boge for this one?
And can someone tell me what volt the echo is?
And just to make this longer I am understanding that the LR carts require a stronger battery which would equate to more volt?
Sorry... Does this mean that the echo cartos crap out on people a lot?
I've had real good luck with mine. The echo auto with 3.4 ml carto is the best all around pv I've come across in 19 months of searching.
To get a stiffer draw i'd recommend some hard plastic whistle tips, such as can be taken from the 801carts sold by nhaler. I wouldn't suggest plugging the battery holes, don't think that would even do much.
Drip Tips Which ones here can I use with it? I went to the other of the 3 echo e's i'd ordered and the draw was stiffer and got a lot more vapor.
These are the best tips 801 Cartridges You just take the tip off the cartridge. 4.00 for five tips plus a couple of dollars for shipping.
Bill at D&B Gold has 801 drip tips that I know fit the echo for 1.75. He includes one with all his kits for free.
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The mah rating of a battery is separate from its voltage. The mah tells you how much capacity the battery has (how long it will last). Your 808 batteries are going to be nominal 3.7 volts but in reality they will come off the chargers at about 4.2 volts and as you use it it will drop down to around 3.3 volts at which point the protection circuitry in the battery will shut off the battery in order to prevent over discharge (which is very bad for batteries).
I have never had any 510 batteries, but from what I have read they are also nominal 3.7 volt batteries but they have circuitry to regulate the voltage to something lower (I think I have read something like 3.4 volts, but don't hold me to that). The idea here is that the voltage will remain pretty consistent as the battery is used but will be lower than "true" 3.7 volt batteries like the 808's during the first part of the discharge cycle where you can get up to 4.2 volts. If I am wrong about that, please some 510 people pipe up and correct me.
And power (measured in watts) is what we are trying to tweak here. At any given voltage, if you want more power you can get it by lowering the resistence of the cartomizer. This is why you can get atomizers and cartomizers at a variety of differnet resistences. Everyone has their own preference as to what wattage they prefer, and it that preference may change depending on the juice being vaped.
While lower resistences give you more power, it also drains your battery faster. This is why it is not feasible to use low resistence (LR) cartomizers (e.g. 2.0 Ohms) on little batteries like the 280 mah battery you mention. To use these LR cartos you should have larger capacity batteries like the Echos at 650 mah or 1300 mah.
For more information on the relationship between volts, amps, resistence, and watts, simply Google "Ohm's Law" and you will find plenty of good primers on this topic.
Thanks ...that is what I needed. So 2.5 carts would work For both if I am understanding. Thanks
FYI-Echo kits are the "Deal of the Day" at SmokeTek -- seems like a good price
Echo 650-1300mAh Complete Kit
Echo 650-1300mAh Complete Kit
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