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The Echo-E dual coil measures right at 2.1 ohms, just did some checking. I just put my Vision Stone tank which measures 1.9 ohms on the Echo-E and it won't fire, but using an 510-808 adapter it fires fine on the Echo battery. I wouldn't recommend running this tank on an auto battery though, I was just curious if it would work.

Maybe my meter is off? It reads .2 when I touch the leads together so I always account for that. Hmmm...
 

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The Echo-E dual coil measures right at 2.1 ohms, just did some checking. I just put my Vision Stone tank which measures 1.9 ohms on the Echo-E and it won't fire, but using an 510-808 adapter it fires fine on the Echo battery. I wouldn't recommend running this tank on an auto battery though, I was just curious if it would work.
That is funny, I tried the Vision Stone Tank on my Echo this afternoon too. I wouldn't use it on my echo either but just wanted to see if it would work. I've found the Echo Carto is the perfect match for the battery in both performance and looks so I've never really wanted to use any other carto with it. I have other 510 PV's I use to try all the newest cartos and tanks.
 

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Inserting a toothpick in the center hole is the best way to tell them apart. If it goes down a ways, its a single coil. If something gets in the way it's a dual, but um....ignorance is bliss, huh? Just vape the darn things and let's be happy!
Thanks I will have to try that method.:2cool:
 
seems to be a built in safety feature on both the echo and echo-e. Like charging it slowly. Manufacturer really wants us not to do anything that could damage the batteries. Again, contact Swedishfish on the forums. She claims to use both DCCs and LR on her echo-e

It is slightly odd. My echo DCCs measure 1.7 so maybe that's the cutoff. Taz, have you tried a smoketech 1.7 on these?

or Cigarman, can you try one making sure it measures properly first?

Crap, well that would explain alot I guess, wish I would have known that before :( SO glad my old xpower is still working (got the echo because one wouldnt charge anymore and figured the other was on it's way out also, but they started working with adapter and using the usb charger for my echo, so i guess my xpower charger is shot instead).
The cart that came with the tank from madvapes was 1.6, the two additional i ordered are 1.25 and the 15 pack I got from ccv are resurrector 1.7. None of these are working on my echo. Hopefully (i haven't read any more posts after this one yet) there is a definitive answer as far as the minimum it will fire, so I don't order anymore that wont work :(
At least I have a way of vaping off all of these 1.7 and lowers I got, phew.
 
thanks guys for the education, just wish there was something that woulda told me this sooner :) oh well, i'll find some > 2ohm carts later on then.
In the slight chance my experiment with using 510 -> 901 > 510 adapters magically makes it work, i'll be sure to let u know, as they are already on their way. Highly doubtful tho.
Hopefully I won't hate going back to 2ohm, since I am really liking the vape on these LR cart's.
 

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The Echo-E battery won't fire anything under 2ohms, that is the problem unfortunately.

Does that apply to DC's or just SC's? I just don't want to buy something that isn't going to work. I have an Echo-E VV battery that will go up to 4.2 volts, and have been using Boge 2.0 ohm cartos, but I hate having to drip every hour or so. When I first bought my kit I liked the cone cartos that came with it, but since going to the Boge's every time I try to use one it feels like I have to draw REALLY hard to get a little vapor. I've been looking at the LR dual coil cone shaped cartos, I'm just wondering if it would be bothering with or if I should just stick with the Boge's
 
I don't have the VV, but I was not impressed at all with the cone DC. I got no difference in vape or longevity at all, all of the cone cartomizers I have pretty much sucked (so bad you get dizzy sucking so hard lol).
I've gone through 2 SC that came with the kit, and a few DC's, didn't like any of them and they all seemed to die within a few days. Maybe just me tho
 

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Does that apply to DC's or just SC's? I just don't want to buy something that isn't going to work. I have an Echo-E VV battery that will go up to 4.2 volts, and have been using Boge 2.0 ohm cartos, but I hate having to drip every hour or so. When I first bought my kit I liked the cone cartos that came with it, but since going to the Boge's every time I try to use one it feels like I have to draw REALLY hard to get a little vapor. I've been looking at the LR dual coil cone shaped cartos, I'm just wondering if it would be bothering with or if I should just stick with the Boge's

An echo-e VV? Link to it. I don't think it's a true Echo.
 

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I don't know about the Echo-e or VV but I've been using the Echo which is an auto for nine months and it vapes very good for me. I have almost every type of tube type PV and I've tried the majority of the cartos. My avatar shows less than half of them. lol I find myself using my echo the majority of the time. I know we are all different and everyone doesn't like autos but I sure enjoy mine.
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I just received some dual coil echomizers, and so far I am underwhelmed. I love the single coils and certainly love the 2nd gen 808 cartomizers. So what's the deal? These are almost as bad as my first mini 501 sticks. They get warmer, but produce less vapor and the flavor seems muted. I'll try a few more cartomizers Justin Case it was a few semi-duds.
So my big question is this, has anyone switched to dual coils permanently and would never switch back to single coils? If so, why?

I'm not sure if there is a difference between the echomizer and the original Echo carts but I'm absolutely sold on the dual coil 808/901 threaded Echo cart. I tried two 510 single coil Echo cartos when they first came out but was disappointed. The DC Echo is one of the three best and most used vapes I've ever tried and I tried at least one of nearly everything that has come out this past year.

That said I'm only happy with it a 4.5 to 5v under load. I just tried it on a fully charged 4.11v bat and under load it drops to 3.73v and it's just another cart at that voltage. If someone were using it on a bat that dropped below 3.5v under load I imagine it would be underwhelming.

Edit: Can anyone tell me if there is a difference between the echomizer and the Echo cart, they certainly look identical?

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Edit: Can anyone tell me if there is a difference between the echomizer and the Echo cart?
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Nope, just a combined word like cartomizer. Maybe Hangsen calls them "echomissers" but that's a reference that may fly over some peoples heads.


Hmmmmm.....reading your post more closely again Errol. Proof again maybe, that DCCs are only fully realized at HV? They do something on an echo battery. Just not much.
 
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My auto echo batteries fire a 1.5ohm (meters at 1.6) 306 atty (with adapter) maybe the echo-e is the only one hard wired not to fire below 2.0.

I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around the idea that Echo would redesign the electronics for just one battery other than replacing the auto function with a manual button to make it function that much differently with vaporizers than the rest of their lineup.

The very first thing I would want to check is if the Echo-e is fully charged, that is greater than 3.7v to the center pin.

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I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around the idea that Echo would redesign the electronics for just one battery other than replacing the auto function with a manual button to make it function that much differently with vaporizers than the rest of their lineup.

The very first thing I would want to check is if the Echo-e is fully charged, that is greater than 3.7v to the center pin.

Errol

I know my Echo 808 won't do under two 2 ohms. Mine will fire, but they just keep firing until they reach the battery cutoff. Had this issue on both a Smoketec DC tank and a CE2.
 

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An echo-e VV? Link to it. I don't think it's a true Echo.

650mAh/900mAh V. V. (Variable Voltage) Batteries with LCD screen for 510/eGO - $21.00 : Healthcabin Electronic Cigarettes - Wholesale and Retail--

I don't think it is a true echo either now that you mention it. I have the smaller one, bought from a local vapor store. I do however have an actual Echo-e kit as well. I guess that explains why the mega dual coil cartos that I bought would work on my VV, but not my regular batteries. It was rated at 1.6 ohm. Still have to wonder about the new DC cartos I'm seeing on Health Cabin. If they perform as good as the Boge's I'd probably go with them. I like a good heavy throat hit, and that is what I get with the LR Boge's. Any suggestions?
 

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I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around the idea that Echo would redesign the electronics for just one battery other than replacing the auto function with a manual button to make it function that much differently with vaporizers than the rest of their lineup.

The very first thing I would want to check is if the Echo-e is fully charged, that is greater than 3.7v to the center pin.

Errol

I don't have an echo-e to try out but I did try both of my batteries and, in addition to the 306, I ran a 1.5 smoketech dual coil I had laying around it fired just fine as well...
I am using a relatively new 650 mah nwvapor echo auto
the dual coil and 306 as well as the adapter 901 to 510 came from madvapes.
 

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I don't have an echo-e to try out but I did try both of my batteries and, in addition to the 306, I ran a 1.5 smoketech dual coil I had laying around it fired just fine as well...
I am using a relatively new 650 mah nwvapor echo auto
the dual coil and 306 as well as the adapter 901 to 510 came from madvapes.

I nearly bought an Echo-e battery today just to see for myself but backed out the last second. Hardly need anymore batteries or PVs.

Errol
 
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