Hello fellow vapers! I am trying to compile a list of FDA "approved" foods/drugs that either killing people or at least doing great bodily harm. I intend to compile this info and use it as a basis for handouts flyers, posters and anything else we can think of to state our case. Not that this probably hasn't already been done but I have seen throughout the forum more and more than I have read before. I just kind of want to put it in one place so that I can add info. I will then verify the info and add it to my off line compilation. The more controversial the better. Let's expose the REAL reason for the onslaught against ecigs. It's simply money. Big tobacco and Big Pharma were snoozin' at the wheel when ecigs came up and bit them in the ...! So much money to be made if they'd only been there first! Now their recourse is to shut us all down! Ban the very thing that has helped more people than the United Way (I may be stretching a bit there). Then they will take our products and ideas and re-introduce the new, improved, FDA approved model. Making all of us slaves to Big tobacco and Big Pharma once again. I for one am ready to do whatever it is I can to stop this cold. I can make a difference and so can you. First we must gather evidence. Compile the endless list of faux pas by the FDA and use it comparatively to make our case. Your help in any way is appreciated. What I'm looking for is the name of the food/drug and any known or published side effects. I would rather save personal experience for another post down the road, but if you have a story I wanna hear it! So without further delay.....Let's begin!
The FDA Approves WHAT?!....
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There are a few groups fighting these bans that might have the info you seek. You might look to some of them for help.
Casaa.org or vapers club.com are two and Treece's blog usually has great articles for reference: Nicotine Buzz
Casaa.org or vapers club.com are two and Treece's blog usually has great articles for reference: Nicotine Buzz
chantix...side effects include thoughts of suicide...this is the new tactic, make people kill themselves instead of the FDA killing them. so if e-cigs are banned, your choices are either smoke analogs and die a slow cancerous death or take chantix and do yourself in quickly. sorry i dont have a list of the rest of the side effects but this is my favorite one. when i get more time ill try to help you out more.
High fructose corn syrup. It's in damn near everything.
"They said their finding, published in the journal Cancer Research, may help explain other studies that have linked fructose intake with pancreatic cancer, one of the deadliest cancer types."
"These findings show that cancer cells can readily metabolize fructose to increase proliferation," Dr. Anthony Heaney of UCLA's Jonsson Cancer Center and colleagues wrote."
"Tumor cells thrive on sugar but they used the fructose to proliferate. "Importantly, fructose and glucose metabolism are quite different," Heaney's team wrote."
http://www.reuters.com/article/idAFN0210830520100802
Fructose contains no enzymes, vitamins or minerals, and it leeches micronutrients from the body. Unbound fructose, found in large quantities in HFCS, can interfere with the heart's use of minerals such as magnesium, copper and chromium. Fructose also reduces the affinity of insulin for its receptor, which is the principle characteristic of type 2 diabetes.HFCS has been implicated in elevated blood cholesterol levels, and it has been found to inhibit the action of the immune system's white blood cells.
http://www.mercola.com/2007/feb/1/the-plague-of-high-fructose-corn-syrup-in-processed-foods.htm
"They said their finding, published in the journal Cancer Research, may help explain other studies that have linked fructose intake with pancreatic cancer, one of the deadliest cancer types."
"These findings show that cancer cells can readily metabolize fructose to increase proliferation," Dr. Anthony Heaney of UCLA's Jonsson Cancer Center and colleagues wrote."
"Tumor cells thrive on sugar but they used the fructose to proliferate. "Importantly, fructose and glucose metabolism are quite different," Heaney's team wrote."
http://www.reuters.com/article/idAFN0210830520100802
Fructose contains no enzymes, vitamins or minerals, and it leeches micronutrients from the body. Unbound fructose, found in large quantities in HFCS, can interfere with the heart's use of minerals such as magnesium, copper and chromium. Fructose also reduces the affinity of insulin for its receptor, which is the principle characteristic of type 2 diabetes.HFCS has been implicated in elevated blood cholesterol levels, and it has been found to inhibit the action of the immune system's white blood cells.
http://www.mercola.com/2007/feb/1/the-plague-of-high-fructose-corn-syrup-in-processed-foods.htm
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While an interesting research idea, what is truely criminal is what they DO NOT approve.
A number of compounds that save lives everyday across the globe, but the USA will never get them because they are already common place and no company is willing to pony up the bribes... Err Tax... Errr fees to jump through FDA hoops to have trials on something every company in the world could make.
Seems to be more in line with the PV plight with the FDA.
Just my opinion...
A number of compounds that save lives everyday across the globe, but the USA will never get them because they are already common place and no company is willing to pony up the bribes... Err Tax... Errr fees to jump through FDA hoops to have trials on something every company in the world could make.
Seems to be more in line with the PV plight with the FDA.
Just my opinion...
Your fave one should be the other side effect which is 'homicidal ideation'. You might not just be at risk of hurting yourself but of hurting others.
Hasn't Accutane (acne medicine) just become the subject of a class action beacuse it causes stomach/gastric problems? I beleive that was FDA approved.
What's that acne medication that was making teens kill themselves?
edit-Accutane.
How about Ambien-
http://www.rxlist.com/ambien-drug-patient.htm
Prevacid (acid reflux med)-
black, bloody, or tarry stools, coughing up blood or vomit that looks like coffee grounds; (yummy) among others-
http://www.rxlist.com/prevacid_naprapac-drug-patient.htm
I'm sure this is a treasure trove of side effects-
http://www.rxlist.com/drugs/alpha_a.htm
edit-Accutane.
How about Ambien-
http://www.rxlist.com/ambien-drug-patient.htm
Prevacid (acid reflux med)-
black, bloody, or tarry stools, coughing up blood or vomit that looks like coffee grounds; (yummy) among others-
http://www.rxlist.com/prevacid_naprapac-drug-patient.htm
I'm sure this is a treasure trove of side effects-
http://www.rxlist.com/drugs/alpha_a.htm
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One of the problems I see with this idea is that most of these meds are to be used under a Drs. care. The response I would expect to get from such would be that ALL meds carry risks and it is up to Dr./ patient to evaluate whether the risks are worth the benefits.
I personally don't want the FDA taking away my right to vape. I'm not sure a flier of this type would help our cause but I applaud the effort!
I personally don't want the FDA taking away my right to vape. I'm not sure a flier of this type would help our cause but I applaud the effort!
This gets me to thinking that your doctor could recommend, which is the same as a prescription, for you to take up vaping to get you to quit smoking. I was talking to a stranger one night who saw me vaping and he told me his pulmonary doctor did recommend an e-cig. He was put off by the overblown costs at the mall, so I wrote down this group for him. I don't know if he ever dropped by, but he was impressed at the low cost I got my eGo.
As for the flier idea, just 20 or so FDA approved dangerous drugs, especially the common everyday ones and the ones that have some ambulance chasers advertising on TV should do the trick.
I really hope the damn FDA just leaves the whole PV issue alone, but since it's taking the big bucks out of BP & BT's pockets, they won't. If ever there was a federal agency that should be investigated for collusion...well, in a better economy it would've already happened. Too many other bigger fish to fry first.
As for the flier idea, just 20 or so FDA approved dangerous drugs, especially the common everyday ones and the ones that have some ambulance chasers advertising on TV should do the trick.
I really hope the damn FDA just leaves the whole PV issue alone, but since it's taking the big bucks out of BP & BT's pockets, they won't. If ever there was a federal agency that should be investigated for collusion...well, in a better economy it would've already happened. Too many other bigger fish to fry first.
Very good suggestions! I remember the good old days when you could get your insurance to pay for a hot tub if your Dr. scripted one for you.
My Dr. was pleased that I had taken up vaping and he was knowledgeable about them...but he also told me that "as a Dr. I have to give you the obligatory nicotine is still not good for you speech." Getting our Drs. to come outa the closet on the subject would do wonders for us.
Thank you for your replies and suggestions. There's so much bad press and I really want to have the ammunition to say "Hey, that's just not the case'" or " "If you think these are bad, how about these!". Wth people running around thinking I smoke anti freeze I thought this could be handy. Hell, the reason the FDA won't approve ecigs is probably because they aren't bad enough for you! I really just want an intelligent, informed and educational response. Thanks for your help and keep it coming.
Estrogen alone (Premarin and others) or with progestin (Prempro and others) - side effects: increased risk of breast cancer, heart disease, stroke, and blood clots. Medroxy-progesterone injections (Depo-Provera) - side effect: irreversible bone loss. Good ways to keep women as patients for the long-term.
On the Accutane issue - side effects: birth defects, depression, psychosis, and suicidal tendencies...helluva thing to be prescribing to our teens.
I'm with the crowd that just wants the FDA to leave our PV's alone!!
On the Accutane issue - side effects: birth defects, depression, psychosis, and suicidal tendencies...helluva thing to be prescribing to our teens.
I'm with the crowd that just wants the FDA to leave our PV's alone!!
did you see this is just a paragraph from it:To make that judgment, the FDA is supposed to consider "the increased or decreased likelihood that persons who do not use tobacco products will start using the tobacco product that is the subject of the application" as well as "the increased or decreased likelihood that existing users of tobacco products who would otherwise stop using such products will switch to the tobacco product that is the subject of the application." In other words, the FDA could decide to keep a demonstrably safer cigarette off the market because it might attract new smokers or dissuade current smokers from quitting. if you would like to read the whole thing heres the linkFDA-Approved Cancer Sticks - Reason Magazine
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