The future of vaping and the class divide between the mod elite and 'the others'.

[Silent Scream]

I'm just thinking out loud here. I can see vaping becoming streamlined in the next few years with increasingly user friendly devices becoming available. No more messing about with coils and heads and bits of wool and new 'all in one' devices, much like the cigalikes currently available but with much better performance and the same huge variety of flavours.

Also mods will become much more advanced and the tinkerers (or call them perfectionists if you like, or elitists who spend a fortune on their hobby) will become distanced from mere plebs like me who will always take the path of least resistance and take the hassle-free route.

Great news for both camps if my predictions are true though there could be much hilarity as the casual camps and hardcore hobbyists become further apart and throw rotten internet apples at each other from a safe distance.

How would you like vaping to evolve? Will you be an elitist or an 'other'? Do you care one way or the other? And while I'm here, what's your favourite colour? I like black.

 

[DetraMental]

Well I'm no hobbyist and I like hassle-free, my favorite color: platinum

 

[Orb Skewer]

I got as far as this bit
"'all in one' devices, much like the cigalikes currently available"

Yep, that about sums up what I see happening.

 

[Jay-dub]

It's already a $2billion industry in the U.S. Like anything there'll be the mediocre for the masses and the high end for the few. Much like Popular Music vs. Anything that's not. One completely sucks and everybody seems to like it. The other camps don't see pop as music at all for the most part. So yeah, one side will say their stuff is accessible and the other side will say it's soulless. Why not start that up now? Who wants a "Tastes great vs. less filling" thread?

 

[Stosh]

The variety in equipment will continue, so long as different vapers prefer different vapes. Check any thread, some are top-coilers only - others BCC alone. Some will be able to handle using a single voltage battery with various "ohms" while others want the battery to have full VW control of the vape.

We all have our own sweet spots for juice flavors, and for equipment. Simpler equipment should make it simpler for n00bs to begin their journey to vaping nirvana......

 

[Recon Number 54]

No matter the topic (vaping, gaming, PC's, etc.) there are those who are enthusiasts, tinkerers, collectors, and those who couldn't care less about the bleeding edge.

In the gaming community, there are the hardcore who refer to anyone who doesn't share their passion for the latest and greatest as "filthy casuals".

It's almost unavoidable. Once a community gets established, people within that community start to look for (and always find) differences in "what's valuable and important" and start sub-dividing into smaller and smaller camps. While it is human nature, it's also a shame. Especially when everyone involved does share a common interest, just to differing degrees.

I don't see it here on ECF as much as I do on (for example) the game-dev site that I moderate, but folks here tend to be adults and more mature than the typical demographic in the gaming community. And I for one, am glad of that. We've already got enough problems with folks who are anti-vaping to have to worry about dealing with arguments amongst ourselves.

 

[Thrasher]

the only problem with this theory is your expecting the cheap devices to actually get R&D then quality control. lol

the lack of performance and reliability on top continual variences in manufacturing is the main reason many jump up to the level of rebuildables. and many of us feel if your going to stick with vaping you should at least give it a try and realize just how lacking the chea device experience really is.

no matter how they change the design a clearo will always perform like a clearo. but you look at the basic design of something like a kayfun it is in effect essentially the same device as a protank with a bottom wicking pressurized design and the extreme increase in performance is directly related to the fact you can make a wick to any specification that a protank head just cant match for performance.

we are all vapors and what ever works for someone is all that matters, many though want more control and consistency out of the products they use in some cases the efficiency cant be matched for cheap, and it is apparent when someone is vaping 18-24mg in a clearo but have to drop down below 12 in a dripper for the same effect

 

[Silent Scream]

Oh the irony... in the gaming community I am super hardcore and look down my nose at people who see COD as the second coming. On here I am a 'filthy casual'

Edit: that reply was meant for Recon Number 54, I meant to quote your comment, sorry.

 

[hazarada]

future? it's already here. Ego vapers look at my giant rod like a cigarette smoker looks at an e-cig.

 

[Orb Skewer]

When the powers that be squeeze and squeeze the nicotine down to 4mg/mil, tax the ... off consumables, and restrict flavours to rank1 and rank2 flavour-then what ?, vape maple sauce ?-good luck with that.
Get on it people-get on it now ! or suck it up later-vaping (as we know it) is under serious threat and will become history.
Cig-u-likes and vaping are not the same thing.

 

[Silent Scream]

When the powers that be squeeze and squeeze the nicotine down to 4mg/mil, tax the ... off consumables, and restrict flavours to rank1 and rank2 flavour-then what ?, vape maple sauce ?-good luck with that.
Get on it people-get on it now ! or suck it up later-vaping (as we know it) is under serious threat and will become history.
Cig-u-likes and vaping are not the same thing.

How could they take the nicotine content down to below what's already freely available in cigs? Can't see what possible beef they could have with flavours either. Then again I can't see why they would want to in any way inhibit people who are doing something that stops them from doing something that kills them slowly.

I suppose the day will come when we have to stock up way in advance. Sad.

 

[Orb Skewer]

How could they take the nicotine content down to below what's already freely available in cigs? .

Yes, good question, how could they.


What is the nicotine content already freely available in cigs ?

 

[Recon Number 54]

Oh the irony... in the gaming community I am super hardcore and look down my nose at people who see COD as the second coming. On here I am a 'filthy casual'

Today's "filthy casual" is potentially tomorrow's hardcore player. Gaming and vaping. We nearly ALL started out "knowing very little" and with limited awareness of "what else is out there".

The great thing about this community? Most folks here are just thrilled that someone else has stopped burning analogs and so, we're proud of them, feel a connection and shared experience and want to help them learn more.... if they're interested.

Gamers on the other hand? They "want to win" and so, in many cases, treat online exchanges as a "text-based 1v1" where someone has to "win". Vaping has the advantage of being a "win-win" for those who are no longer smoking.

 

[Silent Scream]

Yes, good question, how could they.


What is the nicotine content already freely available in cigs ?

Well it depends on the cigs but a lot of them are much higher than 4mg per pack.

Today's "filthy casual" is potentially tomorrow's hardcore player. Gaming and vaping. We nearly ALL started out "knowing very little" and with limited awareness of "what else is out there".

The great thing about this community? Most folks here are just thrilled that someone else has stopped burning analogs and so, we're proud of them, feel a connection and shared experience and want to help them learn more.... if they're interested.

Gamers on the other hand? They "want to win" and so, in many cases, treat online exchanges as a "text-based 1v1" where someone has to "win". Vaping has the advantage of being a "win-win" for those who are no longer smoking.

There is absolutely no comparison with this place and the gaming community. On here we all have each others backs and root for each other and as you know the absolute opposite is true in the gaming community. I was looking at a few forums earlier where PS4 and XBOX One 'fans' where having at each other about who will 'win' the console war.

It honestly scares me that so many stupid people are at large in the world.

 

[Zealous]

I see vaping taking a similar path to tobacco in that there are different types of smokers. There are some that prefer cigars, some that like just regular gas station cigarettes, some that like specialty tobaccos that they roll themselves, etc.

I totally believe vaping with branch off in a similar fashion with some not caring as much about one particular quality in vaping sacrificing it for another. There might be more mainstream products that will make these type vapers happy & they will probably be very simple like a cigalike or an ego type system that's low fuss. And there will be brands that favor a particular quality this type vaper is looking for (ie some might value TH more, some might value vapor production more, some might value flavor more).

Then there will be those type devices that collectors will like more & these may not necessarily be more complicated but will most surely be more pricey.

Then there will be devices for the tinkerers & those that want the most control over their vaping. I think these will come in all shapes & sizes & will range from reasonably simple rebuildables like the igoL to more complex duel/quad coil resistance/no resistance set ups, etc.

We already see this now with vaping so it's reasonable to expect to see it increase in all areas. But I don't see it as becoming something like an elitist thing where one type vaper looks down on another type or whatever. I see it as people just finding their niche. I don't see people who smoke cigars acting like they're better than people who smoke pipes or better than those who smoke cigarettes. They just prefer different things.

The issue with vaping right now in this evolution is that there is not enough out there that is consistent for the first group. There is a lot of trial & error & the people who like to tinker have the upper hand in vaping right now because of the stage we're in. But they will most likely also be the ones to solve many of the problems with consistency. When this happens we will see people find their places in vaping & I think everyone will be happy there.

Me personally, I like super simple. So I sometimes am willing to live with the muted flavor of my evod. But I also have some simple RDAs for when I just want what I want. I don't know how to build the ultimate coil with one, but I can build a coil that's good enough that I can enjoy the taste of a juice. I also forsee myself getting a RBA so I can experiment with building coils for better performance all around. I don't know that that will be my all day every day device. I think it will be something I use to indulge. I might be wrong about that. But I think I will always like carto tanks just for flavor & simplicity. And I see myself collecting these since they are nicely made, pretty & just generally collectable. I don't think I will ever care about building duel or quad coils. I think I would prefer to buy a tank with these already built & use it when I want that kind of vape.

Anyway, that was a lot of blathering but my main point is that until consistency in device performance is mastered we will be in this middle place where you have to work for the kind of vape you want.

 

[Dougiestyle]

I'll just keep making my own unique devices.

 

[Silent Scream]

Thanks for the reply Zealous. Just wanted to say I have just got into vaping and I am amazed at how far it has come already. I don't really have to work much to get a great vape and if we're talking about things being relative well... it doesn't matter how hard you work nothing will offset the damage cigs will do to you.

I was just kind of wondering idly about where vaping will go next. So many possibilities and apart from government intervention, all of them good.

 

[Silent Scream]

I'll just keep making my own unique devices.

Dougie that looks like a duel at dawn vaping device. You should name it Gunslinger

 

[Dougiestyle]

Dougie that looks like a duel at dawn vaping device. You should name it Gunslinger

His name is Steambox. ;-)

*Steampunk box

 

[zoiDman]

I'm just thinking out loud here. I can see vaping becoming streamlined in the next few years with increasingly user friendly devices becoming available. No more messing about with coils and heads and bits of wool and new 'all in one' devices, much like the cigalikes currently available but with much better performance and the same huge variety of flavours.

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Just curious...

Who do you see Selling e-Liquid? And in what form?