The I can't build a KFL Club

[EuroChris]

I used to get a lot of dry hits when I was new with RBA's and Kayfuns. I could only take short draws and I had to wait a while between each draw. I didn't use too much cotton though. I blocked the juice channels. Then I used a screwdriver to clear space on the lower deck so I could see the juice channel when I had my cotton there. After I did that, I haven't had a single dry hit unless the tank has been empty.

If you block the juice channels with cotton, air will struggle to get into the tank, and there will be a negative pressure inside it making it hard for juice to enter the coil chamber and unto the wick.

 

[jblindy]

I struggled with building my Kayfun for the longest time. Then I stumbled across this video. Since I started cotton wicking my kayfun in this manner, the Kayfun has been most enjoyable. Make sure that you use the proper amount of wick. don't roll the wick at all except for the end that you are pulling through the coil. There should be the slightest tension when pulling the wick through. Watch the video and try it out. I think you will be pleasantly surprised. Of course, this is dependent on if you have a good quality clone with properly drilled juice channels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OSPnBDGQJc

 

[juggalofisher88]

After a month of tinkering with my KFL i finally had to get rid of it...
I might go back to a kayfun style tank in the future, but at the moment Im hoping for more intovation on auto-drippers like the 3D and another one i saw on here that was in prototype you pushed down on driptip and the tank dropped a few drops onto the build deck from the top. I think it was called the big dripper??? Its been awhile since i seen the post and havnt heard anything bout it for awhile

Speak of the devil look what just popped its beautiful head in my feed thought id share it here before making a thread
First Look - The Big Dripper RDTA - Revolutionary…: http://youtu.be/82RiDLjgLJo

 

[nicetucu]

I've had my kayfun for a couple of months now and even now have a problem every so often. In my case it's almost always a wicking issue.

Just yesterday I had to do a build quickly and was leaking really bad. So drained the juice by sticking the drip tip inside a spare bottle and unscrewed the bottom. Had to just grab a carto tank and go.

Re did this today and turned out perfect lol. So hang in there. Once you get it right it's very good and reliable (unlike a carto tank). Also a little side note: When using the little clear tank, put o-rings on each side.

When you get it they are (o-rings) not on the small clear tank. I actually didn't use them right away, but found vacuum problems from time to time. I have less problems with them on.

 

[regal55]

I had a tank full of my latest net and followed a lot of advice in this thread. This morning just when it started dry- hitting as usually happens I put it down. Tonight I'm 2 hours on it without issue. Perhaps I'm not soaking the wick enough at start?

 

[jluc]

I had a tank full of my latest net and followed a lot of advice in this thread. This morning just when it started dry- hitting as usually happens I put it down. Tonight I'm 2 hours on it without issue. Perhaps I'm not soaking the wick enough at start?

Good to hear it's working out for you. Kayfuns are a nice vape when you get them right.

 

[regal55]

Good to hear it's working out for you. Kayfuns are a nice vape when you get them right.

The taste is magical. I appreciate all the advice in this thread. I think part of my problem was using off brand cotton pads, they were highly compressed and not very cottony. I also added the ring of cotton around the top this time. Its working like a charm.

 

[nasca]

I had a tank full of my latest net and followed a lot of advice in this thread. This morning just when it started dry- hitting as usually happens I put it down. Tonight I'm 2 hours on it without issue. Perhaps I'm not soaking the wick enough at start?

that's good news, but I suspect you'll have dry hits once again if they happened before. you might just be vaping what's slowly dripping down into your wick. Ideally, the wick should be re-wetted regularly by drawing; you'll see a bubble come up after drawing. slow drip vs. vacuum action. you want the latter. that's the essential design of the kayfun vs. a genesis, for example.

If you cannot get the vacuum action right -- that's fine. you just need to periodically cover the airflow hole with your thumb and draw without firing. you'll see a bubble come up which means the juice has been forced up to the wick. but it's nice to get everything balanced so you dont have to bother with this.

 

[MrPlink]

Why did I know who the OP was with just reading the title?

 

[regal55]

Why did I know who the OP was with just reading the title?

Just because I wasn't gifted with the ability to build a KFL innately shouldn't be held against me.

My point of the thread is we can learn more from people who struggled with something than the blind hog who got the acorn. Obvious you didn't read any of the thread.

 

[regal55]

I just built the version with a circle of cotton around the coil. My first attempt blocked too much airflow so I backed of on the cotton, this seams to be working well this time. Noticeably more vapor, I just hope the juice continues to make it up there. If it weren't for gravity these things would be a cake walk. But this is the first time I have all three (2 Ehpros + 1 Trobecca) working.

 

[regal55]

I'm so glad I posted this thread. The advice to use pointed tweezers to clear the fluid holes after screwing on the half of the chimney was invaluable. Also the light circle of cotton warpped around the coil helps give a buffer when chain vaping. All in all this has been a very productive thread and I hope it has helped others as well.

 

[regal55]

I struggled with building my Kayfun for the longest time. Then I stumbled across this video. Since I started cotton wicking my kayfun in this manner, the Kayfun has been most enjoyable. Make sure that you use the proper amount of wick. don't roll the wick at all except for the end that you are pulling through the coil. There should be the slightest tension when pulling the wick through. Watch the video and try it out. I think you will be pleasantly surprised. Of course, this is dependent on if you have a good quality clone with properly drilled juice channels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OSPnBDGQJc

Wow he uses I lot of cotton and doesn't even worry about the juice channels. Total opposite of whats working for me right now. Amazing how differently people build these things.

 

[sky4it]

I'm posting in the general section because obviously the RBA section is full of people who could perform brain surgery.

We should probably keep that in mind, just in case Obama care doesn't work out.

Regal55: Glad to hear you got your Kayfuns working. After a while you just get the hang of it.

 

[regal55]

I've built all three tanks successfully (2 Ehpro & 1 Tribecca) successfully all filled with DIY Nets since I started this thread.

I' using the better cotton bads similar to the first video posted but using tweezers to keep the airhole open and then laying a light circle of cotton around the coil. Alll three builds are performing fantastic.

Can't thank those who helped me get here enough.

 

[Yotdawglife]

Something that could be used as a parallel to kayfun wicking. When you were in Middle school and got the piss beat out of you, did you just give up? no you learned not to clench your thumb in your knuckle, mounted the bully and put some serious work in on his chin. -growing up in Hawaii.

What I am getting at is, I for one had trouble learning and figuring out this whole coil/wicking thing with all my attys RDA/RTA. Just keep going until you get it right.

 

[regal55]

Something that could be used as a parallel to kayfun wicking. When you were in Middle school and got the piss beat out of you, did you just give up? no you learned not to clench your thumb in your knuckle, mounted the bully and put some serious work in on his chin. -growing up in Hawaii.

What I am getting at is, I for one had trouble learning and figuring out this whole coil/wicking thing with all my attys RDA/RTA. Just keep going until you get it right.

That sums up well the spirit of this thread I hope. I am positive there are others out there who don't have an immediate knack for building these thing and hope to benfit them as well as those on the fence on buying their first RBA. That's why I posted it in the general section, but understand the mods had to move it.

 

[Yotdawglife]

I wasted at least 50 feet of kanthal and countless hours trying to figure this thing out, keep it up guys

 

[DaveP]

I use the Gizmo Artistic coil winder with 28ga kanthal. 14 turns on the 1.83mm rod gives me about 1.6 ohms. I don't torch my coils with the Kayfun. The Gizmo produces a tight coil that I can just dry burn on the Kayfun when I'm testing and looking for hot spots.

I have also found that less is more (to a point) when you wick. I unroll a cotton ball and separate a section, stretch it to the thickness I want, and gently roll it and work it into form without twisting it. Once I get it to the size I like, I twist the end tight and trim the end with scissors to give me a sharp edge to insert into the coil. Bigger is not better for the wick. Almost no drag is good. I like mine to slip back and forth when held at one end only. If It buckles when I push it, it's probably too big. It will swell to fit, so less is more. Rolling lightly instead of twisting allows you to pull and stretch to reduce it if it's too snug on first try.

I've also found that tucking the wick legs alongside the deck into one corner wicks better than tucking them all the way across. The wick puffs up when wetted and the juice channels will become blocked if you have cotton all the way across the deck next to the juice channels. Halfway across without being too close to the channel works better for me.

Three days is about the life of a wick for me. When I notice the change in flavor, I rewick on the next tank refill.

 

[Marc411]

I struggled with building my Kayfun for the longest time. Then I stumbled across this video. Since I started cotton wicking my kayfun in this manner, the Kayfun has been most enjoyable. Make sure that you use the proper amount of wick. don't roll the wick at all except for the end that you are pulling through the coil. There should be the slightest tension when pulling the wick through. Watch the video and try it out. I think you will be pleasantly surprised. Of course, this is dependent on if you have a good quality clone with properly drilled juice channels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OSPnBDGQJc

I watched the back end of this video just to learn the build and gave it a try last night. First thing is it looks like more cotton then it really is in the video. I've watched other videos where folks use the same amount of cotton and just lay it on the deck in an "L" shape.

So far the build is working great, no dry hits and lots of flavor. I built a 1 ohm coil and it's still a bit warm for me but it's definitely a solid build so far that vapes great. The one other thing I got from the video that was good information was priming by covering the hole and taking a pull. Honestly feel like a fool since I understand the dynamics of the Kayfun and didn’t think of it myself.