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TheJakeBailey

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If your kayfun cant compete with an iClear30 or any clearomizer for that matter (yes, even the nautilus or new Kangers) then your build probably needs some work.

My thoughts exactly!!


I find the kayfun to be extremely easy to build, and am completely satisfied with how they perform. Between the kayfun and the Taifun, I am set for tanks. Single coil and some wick...doesn't get much easier!
 

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No ring modded VTR with tobeco KFL+ Clone - 1.5 ohms 11to 15 watts depending on juice, vertical micro oil 28 gauge on cotton...

I've been using the same coil for months now, dry burn and rewick as needed. If it isn't performing, it's my wicking job that's the problem. Dive back in and redo it. Easiest rta I have.

Good luck, you'll find something that works deliciously with perseverance.
 

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Lift the coil grashopper...lift the coooooil....it's the only way my kfl delivers..."a mm off the hole" is bad advice...get fit up into th e atmosphere of the chamber...that is where the music is playing. ...

I'm building with 32 ga, 28 gets hot too slow. Also I have problems with airflow on the 3.1, I don't have enough sucking power. In the Fogger I set the ring too closed and I simply flood it. I find the Fogger easier to work with and a more satisfying vape.
 

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One out of a dozen or so builds have a good taste with the Kaylite unless you have extreme dexterity. The Kaylite is a relic, with the advent of the Aerotank there is no need for the Kaylite IMHO. I wasted hours of my life trying to build a good Kaylite, I think I got two good builds. What a waste of time and energy. Almost all the builds tasted like burn cotton or rayon. My time is too valuable to waste time on those KLF dinosaurs.

Now DIY ejuice and Nets is another story, I can justify the cost of the aerotank coils with the savings on e-juice.


Wow....no offense but that really is poor advice.

While vaping is subjective, the overall consensus is that the kayfun is a fantastic device. Perhaps instead of trying a dozen of different builds, you should have stuck with a few and perfected them.

There isn't a single build I've gone for on the kayfun that hasn't worked out perfectly once I got the hang of it....but then again, I build for function, not complexity, bragging rights, competition, or eye candy.

The macro coil, micro coil, gauges between 24-30g, and ohmage from .6-1.8 work fantastically.

The kayfun is an excellent device that holds aprox. 4ml, rivals just about any RBA in flavor, is highly consistent, easy to learn/use, and is just all around badass.

Sure, you will notice more flavor from high end RDAs, that is to be expected. But as far as RBAs go , it is fantastic.

Also, I think it was the OP who compared the kayfun to the aerotank. That is just absurd. There isn't a clearo that comes close to providing what the kayfun does. Comparing clearos to RBAs is apples to oranges anyway, and I don't think any serious vaper considers the two equal.
 

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Wow....no offense but that really is poor advice.

While vaping is subjective, the overall consensus is that the kayfun is a fantastic device. Perhaps instead of trying a dozen of different builds, you should have stuck with a few and perfected them.

There isn't a single build I've gone for on the kayfun that hasn't worked out perfectly once I got the hang of it....but then again, I build for function, not complexity, bragging rights, competition, or eye candy.

The macro coil, micro coil, gauges between 24-30g, and ohmage from .6-1.8 work fantastically.

The kayfun is an excellent device that holds aprox. 4ml, rivals just about any RBA in flavor, is highly consistent, easy to learn/use, and is just all around badass.

Sure, you will notice more flavor from high end RDAs, that is to be expected. But as far as RBAs go , it is fantastic.

Also, I think it was the OP who compared the kayfun to the aerotank. That is just absurd. There isn't a clearo that comes close to providing what the kayfun does. Comparing clearos to RBAs is apples to oranges anyway, and I don't think any serious vaper considers the two equal.

Not a dozen different style of builds I'm working on build #30 micro coil on my current Kayfun, the most I get is an hour before the cotton in the coil burns. I've taken all the advice, the cotton isn;t bunched up, its wet when I pull it apart. It is not an easy build unless you are under 30 and have surgeon like dexterity.

Don't think you're going to buy one and be in that percentage of the population,
 
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Not a dozen different style of builds I'm working on build #30 micro coil on my current Kayfun, the most I get is an hour before the cotton in the coil burns. I've taken all the advice, the cotton isn;t bunched up, its wet when I pull it apart. It is not an easy build unless you are under 30 and have surgeon like dexterity.

Don't think you're going to buy on and be in that percentage of the population,

I'm 37 and wear contacts. I usually build in the morning before work, and haven't put them in yet. No burning here. ;)

Eta I also have drummers hands. Nothing nimble about them. lol
 

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On a serious note. Have you checked to make sure that your juice channels are fully milled out and connecting at the bottom where the horizontal and vertical meet?? I had one that didn't, and I had to Dremmel it out. Not a fault of the kayfun design, but of the clone manufacturer.



Could be my problem not worth dealing with the manufacturer, I just ordered another ephro. If I have problems with that I'm switching to drippers.
 

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Not a dozen different style of builds I'm working on build #30 micro coil on my current Kayfun, the most I get is an hour before the cotton in the coil burns. I've taken all the advice, the cotton isn;t bunched up, its wet when I pull it apart. It is not an easy build unless you are under 30 and have surgeon like dexterity.

Don't think you're going to buy one and be in that percentage of the population,


I know you are frustrated, but I promise you, it isn't the kayfun. Or if it is, you have a defective one.

Here's what I do.

I use 26g kanthal wire. I highly recommend 24g-28g. The thicker the wire, the EASIER it is to wrap coils. The thicker the wire, the less SPRINGY it is.

The kayfun performs BEST at 0.8 to 1.6 ohms. That is its SWEET SPOT. Any lower or higher, and IMO you aren't taking advantage of it properly, and performance will decrease.

What kind of cotton are you using? I ONLY use rolled sterile cotton from CVS. It was 7 bucks for a bag that will last me 5+ years. I tried the peaches n creme cotton yarn from walmart that so many people on here like, and it tasted terrible. The CVS sterile cotton is ALL I use, and I get NO taste from it, I only taste my delicious juice.

So, I suggest you use sterile, rolled cotton from CVS. Get 24g-28g wire, and use a 5/64" drill bit. Make sure all your wraps are touching each other ,and test it out on an ohm meter. I go for 0.8 to 1.2ohms.

If you do this properly, your coil should last a month no problem, and the cotton should last about 1-2 tanks before you notice a reduction in flavor.



Like I said, I understand your frustration, I really do - but I encourage you to keep trying, because in all honesty, the kayfuns is one of the best products on the market right now.
 

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Not a dozen different style of builds I'm working on build #30 micro coil on my current Kayfun, the most I get is an hour before the cotton in the coil burns. I've taken all the advice, the cotton isn;t bunched up, its wet when I pull it apart. It is not an easy build unless you are under 30 and have surgeon like dexterity.

Don't think you're going to buy one and be in that percentage of the population,


I am 39 and on medication.... I shake so bad I rattle windows!! That being said the kayfun is verry easy to build, saying that the vast majority of the vaping community can't build one is hocus pocus ....
 

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I truly love my kayfun lite plus v2 EHPro clone. I had to play with some builds before I was really starting to love it. Much better than all my tanks hands down. I have iClear 30's, Protanks, and carto tanks and the only other tanks I use on a regular basis is the cartos (4 total).

The Taifun GT will be my next purchase after a good juice order from Ahlusion and Nicoticket. Also may rebuild some nautilus coils cause those things are collecting dust as of the last two months or so. Really digging the Cloupor dna30 clone.... waiting for someone to diss that now lol.
 

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Of all my devices, my Kayfuns are my favorite. Just a great flavor and a smooth vape. I don't think any carto tank is going to compete with it. My next venture is getting a GP Heron.

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Taste is subjective. I load the Kayfun at 1.6 ohms and a Vapeonly BCC with Liqua Coffee. Vape them side by side and the smoothest one is THE VAPEONLY!!!

Maybe I'm making some kind of mistake on rebuilding it, but beleive me, I have quite a few coils under my belt. I was rebuilding Vivis while most of you didn't know what an ecig was.

Thing is, maybe my taste is damaged, or my heart attack got to me, but I'll try with a Russian next time. I think the airflow volume is to blame.
 

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Taste is subjective. I load the Kayfun at 1.6 ohms and a Vapeonly BCC with Liqua Coffee. Vape them side by side and the smoothest one is THE VAPEONLY!!!

Maybe I'm making some kind of mistake on rebuilding it, but beleive me, I have quite a few coils under my belt. I was rebuilding Vivis while most of you didn't know what an ecig was.

Thing is, maybe my taste is damaged, or my heart attack got to me, but I'll try with a Russian next time. I think the airflow volume is to blame.

Trust me, though I agree taste is subjective, the Kayfun is NOT a BCC, and rebuilding a replaceable head is nothing like building a Kayfun, find some build vids, get it right, and you will absolutely rescind that statement
 

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I can't agree more with this statement :)
+1 BobC
Trust me, though I agree taste is subjective, the Kayfun is NOT a BCC, and rebuilding a replaceable head is nothing like building a Kayfun, find some build vids, get it right, and you will absolutely rescind that statement
A Kayfun and a Russian 91% are basically the same thing so don't waste your time thinking a Russian will be any different
 

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Taste is subjective. I load the Kayfun at 1.6 ohms and a Vapeonly BCC with Liqua Coffee. Vape them side by side and the smoothest one is THE VAPEONLY!!!

Maybe I'm making some kind of mistake on rebuilding it, but beleive me, I have quite a few coils under my belt. I was rebuilding Vivis while most of you didn't know what an ecig was.

Thing is, maybe my taste is damaged, or my heart attack got to me, but I'll try with a Russian next time. I think the airflow volume is to blame.



What kind of kayfun do you have? I have 3 kayfuns, all by EHPro, two of which are version 2. All 3 kayfuns have airflow control, which is awesome. The version2 kayfuns I have also have a bigger air hole, which is even MORE awesome.

1.6 is kind of on the high end of the kayfun spectrum. I recommend you try building closer to 1ohm. Between 0.8 to 1.2 seems to work the best, IMO.

Also, what gauge wire are you using? I recommend 26-28g for the kayfun. Anything above 28g (such as 30g and 32g) and the thin wire just doesn't provide as much heat/flavor.
So to summarize, if your vapeonly BCC is hitting better than your kayfun, I recommend using:
24-28g wire
0.8-1.2ohm
and playig with the airflow controller, if your kayfun has it.

good luck!
 

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I am now 60 years young, and have bad near vision. I use Jewelers visors for building. The 3.1 HCigar has HUGE air flow. I love it! My wifes EHPro is nice, but no where near the air flow of the 3.1.

The one area where I differ from most folks, is that here in HOT dry Texas, I find that I like a bit higher OHM. I wrap with 30 ga. and run her up to 2.2. The heat is not quite as much, (Use 80% VG as well), but the flavor is much deeper than at a lower resistance for me.
At 1.5 to 1.9 is is good, but no where as flavorful as 2.2 to 2.5 run at 4-4.8 on the ProVari.

With my eyesight, you would think I would be one of those complaining about buld difficulty. but I can't honestly say that I have ever gotten a bad build after my first try. It sucked, but all following it have been just fine. Tried several different styles, and they all WORK. No burning, No leaking, Great taste.

I guess there are some things, that some folks simply cannot do. and todays world, where every one wants everything done for them, It's not really surprising. In fact. Expected! :facepalm::vapor:

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Wow....no offense but that really is poor advice.

While vaping is subjective, the overall consensus is that the kayfun is a fantastic device. Perhaps instead of trying a dozen of different builds, you should have stuck with a few and perfected them.

There isn't a single build I've gone for on the kayfun that hasn't worked out perfectly once I got the hang of it....but then again, I build for function, not complexity, bragging rights, competition, or eye candy.

The macro coil, micro coil, gauges between 24-30g, and ohmage from .6-1.8 work fantastically.

The kayfun is an excellent device that holds aprox. 4ml, rivals just about any RBA in flavor, is highly consistent, easy to learn/use, and is just all around badass.

Sure, you will notice more flavor from high end RDAs, that is to be expected. But as far as RBAs go , it is fantastic.

Also, I think it was the OP who compared the kayfun to the aerotank. That is just absurd. There isn't a clearo that comes close to providing what the kayfun does. Comparing clearos to RBAs is apples to oranges anyway, and I don't think any serious vaper considers the two equal.

No offense, but your experience is not everybody's experience. Mine included. The KFL+ v2 compared to the latest tanks is about on par with them in flavor. In fact, I would say the newest tanks are a little better.
 
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