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LisaLisa

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We've had the discussion regarding Baptism before. Not to rehash, but Baptism is NOT required for salvation. It is the first commandment AFTER salvation.
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It was understood that there were Jews who had made professions for Christ, but had gone back to the synagogue, desiring to again take up Judaism. To do so, they were required to publicly denounce the divinity/christhood/ and work of salvation through Christ. That, from what I have found, is what is ultimately being referred to in Hebrews. It was not simply a rejection of Christ.. for Peter did that three times. It was not simply a period of sin in a person's life, for the Bible has plenty of examples of believers who make mistakes and falter. Apostacy is both a public rejection/repudiation of Christianity and Christ, and a complete and continual turn from that Christian walk.

Having said that, can you "keep" yourself saved?
Is the message really, "Here's a free gift of salvation... don't screw it up"?

Hey Jason! It's so good to see you, it's been a while. I hope you're doing well!!!!!!!! :)

I believe that you "keep" yourself in a saved condition by following Jesus. When you turn against Him, His ways, His spirit and fill yourself with hate, pride, sin.........then you have chosen to give your salvation back by turning against Him.

Pride is, I believe, the worst thing in this world and satan's most effective tool. It's the cause of all of the pain in the world. Pride is what caused Satan to become the adversary and fall, he was proud and wanted glory for himself and hate was the result when he didn't get it.

Pride will destroy your soul and turn it dark, angry and evil. Pride comes before the fall, and it's so true!
 

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I believe that you "keep" yourself in a saved condition by following Jesus. When you turn against Him, His ways, His spirit and fill yourself with hate, pride, sin.........then you have chosen to give your salvation back by turning against Him.

The Bible says that once saved, we are a new creature. We're different. If we turn back, how different were we? The Bible says that God will finish the work he has begun. Salvation is of GOD, not us. Not our decision. It's his gift to us. So if he saves us with the intention of finishing that work... shouldn't he instead say that he "might" finish what he started if we let him?
 

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The Bible says that once saved, we are a new creature. We're different. If we turn back, how different were we? The Bible says that God will finish the work he has begun. Salvation is of GOD, not us. Not our decision. It's his gift to us. So if he saves us with the intention of finishing that work... shouldn't he instead say that he "might" finish what he started if we let him?

Check out the thread that I started this morning called I Desire Mercy, Not Sacrifice. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/christian-vapers/185116-i-desire-mercy-not-sacrifice.html

The Mercy is the most important thing, not this thread about hell, I stand corrected!!!!!! :)

Praise His Holy Name!!!!!
 
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The Bible says that once saved, we are a new creature. We're different. If we turn back, how different were we? The Bible says that God will finish the work he has begun. Salvation is of GOD, not us. Not our decision. It's his gift to us. So if he saves us with the intention of finishing that work... shouldn't he instead say that he "might" finish what he started if we let him?

Yes Jason! You speak the truth!

The WORD teaches us;

"16: This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. 17: For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. 18: But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. 19: Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20: Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21: Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. 22: But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23: Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law" (Gal. 5).

and: 2 Corinthians 3:6 (New International Version, ©2011)

6 He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant—not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.


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Galatians 5:22-25 - But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

What 'Law' do you give a Man full of Love, Joy & Self control? Against such there is no law ;)
 

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Have any of you seen the movie Religulous with Bill Mayer? There are lots of other books out there, what if you have the wrong one?

No, I don't watch Bill Mayer's Movies.

How "I" know the Bible is the 'right' Book is because so much of it's prophecies have been fulfilled. (Israel becoming a Nation again in 1947 is just one of hundreds of prophecies that have been fulfilled... This Prophecy alone becoming a reality borders on the miraculous as the Jewish people were scattered around the entire World)..... A little 'research' bears out the Bible's validity as being the only authentic Book of GOD. I challenge you to read it & you'll see. :)
 
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