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The Next Generation of the Stardust (Vision Ego Clearomizer)

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larktdl

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You mean you would not want something where you can unscrew the atomizer head from the battery post and replace the wick and coil without much hassle? If you are not in to doing that you can purchase the detachable part, $2 or $3 bucks instead of $10 (just guessing on that price).

Of course, I could be wrong about rewicking and recoiling it. The head looks the same as what is used in the Vivi Nova .... to rewick and recoil these are easy enough to do.

Some of us are already rebuilding the stardusts: The clearomizer V2 is the next logical step for this product.
 

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You mean you would not want something where you can unscrew the atomizer head from the battery post and replace the wick and coil without much hassle? If you are not in to doing that you can purchase the detachable part, $2 or $3 bucks instead of $10 (just guessing on that price).

Of course, I could be wrong about rewicking and recoiling it. The head looks the same as what is used in the Vivi Nova .... to rewick and recoil these are easy enough to do.

Some of us are already rebuilding the stardusts: The clearomizer V2 is the next logical step for this product.

Stardusts are as cheap as $4.95 from Canada & $3.70 from Health Cabin in China. Unless the vendors can sell the heads for $5 for pack of 5 - there isn't much of an incentive.
 

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Actually for us that like vison Stardust it's a really great idea seems like the same part for the VIVI nova so stock up on the coil heads and you can have a portable tank and a large tank for home at just swap out the coils. Makes it easier to clean maintain and much cheaper than buying a tank every time depends if the coils will drop in price a V3 stardust is 5$ and the coils are listed at gotvapes for 3$. Might be a replacement for my 10-12 stardust that I have :)
 

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Stardusts are as cheap as $4.95 from Canada & $3.70 from Health Cabin in China. Unless the vendors can sell the heads for $5 for pack of 5 - there isn't much of an incentive.

Right, unless there is a incentive might not be worth it for some. However, both the wick and nichrome required to recoil/rewick are relatively inexpensive. I think you can rewick and recoil a atomizer for pennies? To me, the savings will be significant.
 

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I think people might be missing the point, here. For something to be replaceable, there needs to be some quality to base unit. There is no quality to a stardust or that Re-vive V2. I've been using stardusts for months & like the ease that they come with. I even clean them to get some extra mileage out them. To get 2 to 3 weeks out of a $5 clearomizer is money in the bank. The plastic tank may develop cracks - all my 1st generation ones did. The plastic threads for the mouthpiece can wear out & get stripped. People have reported some leaking from the battery end & mouthpiece end (JIMM). There is none or very little quality control with such an inexpensive clearomizer. It was developed to be a disposable, and now someone in marketing has decided to capitialize on its success by a slight modification to allow users to buy parts for it. The majority of vapers want something simple & easy peasy - most don't want to clean out parts or re-assemble $5 parts with $2 parts. Just my opinion, here folks.
 
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I think people might be missing the point, here. For something to be replaceable, there needs to be some quality to base unit. There is no quality to a stardust or that Re-vive V2. I've been using stardusts for months & like the ease that they come with. I even clean them to get some extra mileage out them. To get 2 to 3 weeks out of a $5 clearomizer is money in the bank. The plastic tank may develop cracks - all my 1st generation ones did. The plastic threads for the mouthpiece can wear out & get stripped. People have reported some leaking from the battery end & mouthpiece end (JIMM). There is none or very little quality control with such an inexpensive clearomizer. It was developed to be a disposable, and now someone in marketing has decided to capitialize on its success by a slight modification to allow users to buy parts for it. The majority of vapers want something simple & easy peasy - most don't want to clean out parts or re-assemble $5 parts with $2 parts. Just my opinion, here folks.

Have you seen pics of the Vivi Nova? The replaceable & detachable head used in the Vivi is the same as used in the eGo clearomizer V2. I refer you to gotvapes (I would reference Vaporus.com but the site does not have pics of the Nova). GotVapes Vision ViVi Nova™ : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more.

Even if the new product retails for $5.00 (which it won't), You wouldn't screw a new head in to it that only cost $2.95? Or am I not understanding your post?
Additionally, I do believe that I read somewhere on the Gotvapes web site that the tube material used in version 3 of the Stardust eliminates the leaking and cracking problem.

This is not a slight modification.
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I agree with ya there T.OMike. I have rebuilt a couple of SD's and managed to squeeze a bit more life out of them. Recoiling them is too much of a pain in the ... for me to bother to do it again. Plus they never seem to work quite as well as before I did the fix. Toss em and get new ones I say.
Recoiling the SD is a pain however with this new part, very easy.

To see how to recoil/rewick this refer to Vision Vivi Nova, Part 2 - Changing Wick (COTTON) & Final Impressions - YouTube
 

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Have you seen pics of the Vivi Nova? The replaceable & detachable head used in the Vivi is the same as used in the eGo clearomizer V2. I refer you to gotvapes (I would reference Vaporus.com but the site does not have pics of the Nova). GotVapes Vision ViVi Nova™ : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more.

Even if the new product retails for $5.00 (which it won't), You wouldn't screw a new head in to it that only cost $2.95? Or am I not understanding your post?
Additionally, I do believe that I read somewhere on the Gotvapes web site that the tube material used in version 3 of the Stardust eliminates the leaking and cracking problem.

This is not a slight modification.
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I have a Vivi Nova - I paid $11.69 for it(Heath Cabin) because it was designed to incorporate replaceable heads or re-coiled.

It also is a large tank which will hold 3.5ml of juice. A bit different than that of a modified stardust.

How do you know the product won't be $5? You may be surprised at what we can do here in Canada with pricing. I think there may be an army that can attest to the this.

The polycarbonate of the V3 may solve the cracking issue but time will tell if it solves other issues associated with plastic.

This is fun - I'm liking the debate.
 

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Fun, fun, fun (reminds me of a song).

Yeah, $5.00 would be a nice price. I hope you are right, but of course I can't comment on the army. I do not belong to it, never have and pretty good chance that I never will. Please don't take that personally, I don't want any wars going on here. If required, I will pay more. You pay less, I pay more. No big deal for me anyways.

Also, I prefer to stay in Canada for product but on occassion I go south.

In regards to the Nova, how are you liking it? I am waiting on V2 of the Nova from Vaporus. I have a V1 from GV that did not work out very good. I did manage to rewick & coil one head which seemed to improve it slighty.

Once I get my nichrome I ordered from ebay.ca I should be able to determine if rewicking and recoiling the Nova is worth the effort.

GV should have the new product in inventory next week.

Now, if we could only get Mindfield to reply to this thread, we would then have way more fun.
 

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I only have V2 and V3 of the Stardust Lots of them about 30 from various vendors the only time I had them crack is if you take them appart removing the innards from the tank I think the cracking was mostly with the V1's

I'm still new at this but but thanks to larktdl I went to look at the E1 Clearomizer - ReVive - v2 that made the top of my list hopefully the reviews are unbiased and will have the same luck this seems these are for me. Had real bad luck with the Stone, DCT and Vision Grande.

Rebuildable who wants to sit there and save a few pennies by rebuilding them just finding the right wick that work for you seems like a long quest and until you have the coiling method perfected without messing up does not seem to be worth it unless you have alot of spare time on your hands.

I'm tired of messing with my Stardust every 2nd day trying to get them clean and gunk removed from the coils The E1 or the next gen stardust seems to be it for us normal people with kids and limited time on our hands ;)

Oh yeah the standard drip tip of the E1 pushes it up on to buy list. Glad I found these forums instead of buying eveything out there saves me a few trials and errors.

Now all we need is a coiless fuel injected feader Carto and we are all set !
 
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Well, I just got the vivi nova V1 a couple of days ago & haven't set some time to try it out. I hear there a few issues with V1 & also, hope Mindfield will figure it out for me before I open the box. I fix things for a living & am sure I could come up with a fix or 2 but Mindfield has a proven track record with plenty of experience. He's the man.

Also I heard an issue with the vivi might be solved if the head is rebuilt with both zero resistance & low resistance as the low is causing the plastic to burn? - like the way most rebuildables are made. I've never tried a rebuildable & don't know that much so don't quote me on this.
 
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