The Nicotine Vaccine is on the way ....
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Interesting principal, now if they could only get that to work for cancer cells. Hard to say what the long-term side effects would be of your body is pumping out these antibodies long-term, and are there any risks of mutation of the "infection" they cause in your liver.
Fantastic. Now if they can invent one to get me off Tims - I'm addicted to the medium small double double.
Great this will remove the addiction to nicotine but what about the other thousands of chemical in a cigarette that the body become addicted to. In our case the nicotine combined with an ecig is the vaccine we use to get away from cigarettes. Still worth a shot though.
First of all, how did they get the mice to smoke those tiny little cigarettes? 
It has been said that nicotine leaves your system within 14 days after you quit smoking. I believe it's all the triggers & cessation that mostly causes a person to go back to smoking. If it was the nicotine addition being the major contributing factor, NRP would have a better success ratio.
Those who quit smoking & started vaping with zero nic have said they had very little withdrawal.
It has been said that nicotine leaves your system within 14 days after you quit smoking. I believe it's all the triggers & cessation that mostly causes a person to go back to smoking. If it was the nicotine addition being the major contributing factor, NRP would have a better success ratio.
Those who quit smoking & started vaping with zero nic have said they had very little withdrawal.
First of all, how did they get the mice to smoke those tiny little cigarettes?
It has been said that nicotine leaves your system within 14 days after you quit smoking. I believe it's all the triggers & cessation that mostly causes a person to go back to smoking. If it was the nicotine addition being the major contributing factor, NRP would have a better success ratio.
Those who quit smoking & started vaping with zero nic have said they had very little withdrawal.
I feel the same way. To me the nicotine is a minor addiction of cigarettes. Most people are addictive to the lifestyle and the carbon monoxide high you get from a cig. While the ecig doesn't give you the carbon monoxide high it does give you everything else that you would miss from not smoking. The act of putting an pen sized object to your mouth. The feel of smoke/vapor entering and leaving your throat and lungs. For some the nicotine also helps. Personally I wouldn't miss the nicotine itself. I use nicotine because that is the only way to get a real throat hit. The throat hit I would miss.
Thats the exact same for me. I found I was more addicted to the hand to mouth action, and the throat hit than anything else. I'm sure the nicotine played a role, but I tried the patch and gum, and neither satisfied the cravings the way an e-cig did, and the e-cig only took a week to get me off the analogs.
This vaccine scares me! Think of the close molecular structure of Nicotine to other natural life essential substances in the body. I'm reminded of a Diet drug, Rimonabant, that was short lived on the market because it ended up blocking the bodies natural Anandamide, which is a natural mood regulator and Tumor Suppressor chemical within the Human Body. Further testing of Rimonabant showed Human users became depressed and suicidal and Rats became riddled with Tumors. Rimonabant was develop based on the idea that if a particular illicit drug induced the munchies, an antagonist to that drug would make a great Diet drug to curb hunger. The bodies natural Anandamide happened to share the same receptor site.
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I discovered a vaccine 7 months ago.
Someone should send a bottle of nic juice with a label "nicotine vaccine" to the lab with the following instructions - "heat to 1200 degrees & inhale vapour"
They would save thousands in research in development.
Someone should send a bottle of nic juice with a label "nicotine vaccine" to the lab with the following instructions - "heat to 1200 degrees & inhale vapour"
They would save thousands in research in development.
I think such researchers as well as HC are very narrow minded focusing solely on the Nicotine component. When switching from Cigarettes to e-cigs I experienced a depression for 6 months from the withdrawal of the MAOI's found in cigarettes, not Nicotine. Starting cigarettes as a teenager the MAOI's where a possible unknown self prescribing mechanism for common adolescent depression, and I got hooked. Researchers need to focus more on the MAOI as a possible hook of the addiction and for treatment and education.
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This was the greatest post ever written in the history of all mankind, I spent over 30 minutes writing it and you will never get to read it because IE sucksxxxxxxxxxxxxx, a slip of the finger executed a copy/paste/delete, the undo option has been kindly removed for my pleasure and restore saved content is blank, scanning the RAM with HxD reveals nothing.
I am in such a silent rage, a cigarette would be good right about now.....
I am in such a silent rage, a cigarette would be good right about now.....
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Ah I feel your pain, but no...cigarette would NOT be good. Maybe a steel toed boot to a keyboard!
jk
I agree with you, there is definitely something other than nic in cigarettes that can affect us harshly. I`m sorry you went through the depression and I hope you have found some relief.
I definitely feel different without cigarettes, not as stimulated with a `get up and go` reaction in the morning. I feel more dull but not depressed. I don`t know how to explain it, but there is something crucial missing even with a nic replacement.
Keep Calm and Vape On.
Sorry to hear that and yes, I've done the same thing. When making posts that take me a long time, either to process thoughts in a well articulated manner or to deal with kids, I always copy my post before I hit that post button now. Re-typing a post like that just doesn't seem to have the same feeling to it, but I do encourage you to share with us your thoughts because they matter and are worth the effort.
Need a hug?
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LOL, It was the copying that killed my post, I'm at work and a truck was at coming up to the gate so I tired to ensure my post's safety by quickly highlighting and hitting copy, something went terribly wrong though, this PC is an old P4 running XP and an ancient form of IE so it's prone to these sorts of things.
Anyway, the post concerned the emotional satifaction of a cigarette VS vaping for me, it had some comical ad lib that I just can't replicate, I think the point was that there is definately more to it then just the nicotine or even the physical habit, the MAOI aspect is something that definitly needs consideration.
I have read several articles over the years with findings showing that the vast majority of smokers have some degree of neurotransmitter imbalance and that the cigarettes offer a medicating effect to offset it.
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