...vaccines for drug, nicotine adiction

[nojoyet]

I don't want to believe this. Here's the link
http://www.montrealgazette.com/health/backs+vaccines+drug+nicotine+addiction/2127814/story.html

 

[doots]

lol. yet e cigs might be dangerous to users.. who among us will be the first to get the vac shot to test their findings???

 

[TropicalBob]

Don't you wish someone would shovel $10 million to a study of a practice that delivers non-harmful nicotine levels to those who want it -- us -- without delivering other dangerous chemicals at the same time?

 

[PhiHalcyon]

Well, it is already obvious that the FDA intends to introduce a nicotine-yield limit at some point; and then gradually lower that limit over time. I can remember asking myself over ten years ago - at a time when I was trying to quit - why this nicotine control and reduction scheme was not already being done.

And, yes, an ecig-like nicotine delivery product put under the same long-term nicotine-reduction scheme is precisely what is needed in order achieve quick and tremendous gains in human harm-reduction right from the beginning.

 

[frankie1]

I have told my doc for years that if the medical community really wanted people to quit, they would come up with something that I could put in my mouth, suck on, get my nic and I would quit smoking! LOL They didn't, but the Chinese did!

 

[frankie1]

Well here is my comment....let's see if they post it!

While we are waiting on this miracle vaccine, could we just use a bit of common sense as applied to harm reduction? Take a look at personal vaporizers. The addict gets their nicotine fix without the harmful additives of tobacco smoke. Then step down the nicotine and the addiction is nothing more than a habit, harmful to none. Might save a few million lives while trying to come up with a better solution.

 

[frankie1]

HA ha HA: Maybe not...seems there was a problem posting my comment and I should try again later!

 

[Nestran]

"
The vaccine is meant to stimulate the immune system to make antibodies against nicotine, blocking its rewarding effects and helping to prevent relapse in smokers trying to quit."

So the way I see it. the vaccine will not allow Nicotine to do what it does. you would be in withdrawal with no way out. Hmm, not something I want to experience.

Nestran

 

[Our House]

More freedom reduction...made FOR smokers BY non-smokers.

"We just want to HELP you! You know, for your own protection." I hate when people do things "for your protection" by the way. As if it's not for THEIR benefit. Right.

Do people ever consider that others might actually want nicotine...or coffee...or to gamble...or shop. Sometimes we enjoy things that FEEL GOOD. Sigh.

What's next, caffeine vaccines? Fatty food vaccinations? Video game addiction vaccinations? Plastic surgery to implant fake smiles on our faces once they've sucked all the fun out of our lives???

 

[kinabaloo]

Well, it is already obvious that the FDA intends to introduce a nicotine-yield limit at some point; and then gradually lower that limit over time. I can remember asking myself over ten years ago - at a time when I was trying to quit - why this nicotine control and reduction scheme was not already being done.

And, yes, an ecig-like nicotine delivery product put under the same long-term nicotine-reduction scheme is precisely what is needed in order achieve quick and tremendous gains in human harm-reduction right from the beginning.

We've been down that road before with 'lights'. If want people to smoke less tar and toxins, make the things stronger not weaker.

Since nicotine is not harmful, no need for any scheme for reducing its use. I completely disagree with that notion. In fact, it is outrageous!

 

[Vocalek]

Frankie1, I see your comment. I am with Nestrain. This is the comment I left:

So, this vaccine will block nicotine's "rewarding effects". Does that include the rewarding effect of maintaining normal mood and cognitive funciton? Does that also include the rewarding effect of preventing the build-up of alpha-synoclean proteins in the brain in that cause Lewy Body Dementia? This vaccine sounds like a very dangerous approach. The 40% of smokers who are using nicotine to self-medicate could end up with totally untreatable depression, anxiety, and cognitive deficits.

 

[PhiHalcyon]

Kin,

Yeah, I've learned a lot more about nicotine since then. Reducing the nicotine in cigarettes will just make those who smoke them smoke more of them. This is probably why PM was willing to agree to the regulation of nicotine-yields ... as long as requiring a nicotine-yield of zero was prohibited. It would clearly make more sense to ban cigarettes and approve the ecig - whether a nicotine-reduction scheme were to be later intended or not.

Should the long-term use of the ecig prove to not have any negative health consequences, then I would also agree that nicotine-yields be no more regulated than what is necessary to prevent whatever tragic or deadly consequences there may be associated with excessive nicotine consumption. Liberty is great, but so is responsibility.

 

[MadeyeTony]

Anybody remember this scene from The Fifth Element? Here is the future of smoking if the FDA has their way.

YouTube - Future Cigarettes

 

[DC2]

Plastic surgery to implant fake smiles on our faces once they've sucked all the fun out of our lives???

Dude, do you know anywhere that is doing this?
I need a good stock investment.

 

[dalton3699]

i love it drugs you take to stop taking drugs............

hey wait minute.................????...............

 

[TaketheRedPill]

Volkow said drumming up drug company interest in vaccines for illicit drugs is a harder sell because of liability concerns, and the fact that drug abusers are stigmatized.


"Unfortunately, when it comes to treatments for drug addiction ... most of the investment goes to the government," she said.


and smokers aren't stigmatized? and pose no liability threat? why? because they have to ask for the vaccine??? hmmmmm.....fuzzy logic

TTRP

 

[Lumiis]

Seems to be very similar to how Chantix works.

On the other hand I Love how it begins: 'Hooked on ....... or cigarettes?' lol

Very interesting what they're coming up with nowadays..

 

[rothenbj]

i love it drugs you take to stop taking drugs............

hey wait minute.................????...............

You have to love it. I can see it now. 100,000K ex-smokers commit suicide so the FDA meets to insure that MakeAMint Pharmaceuticals and all the other BP copycat vaccine makers put a BlackBox warning on their packaging.

At the same time the die hard analog smokers are hit with another tax increase bringing the current price of a pack of cigarettes to $150.